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    Default Longer USB cable on my 2018 RT Limited spyder PROBLEM

    Hello All fellow spyder riders.
    I got a good one.
    I have a 2018 spyder RT Limited
    The USB plug is in the frunk, but I want my iphone on the handle bars.
    I was able to bring a lighting and a USB coupler cable from the frunk to the handle bars, but it will only connect to the BRP connect when the iphone battery is almost fully charged.
    If I use a short lighting cable from the frunk, it works fine.
    It also does not charge very fast too.
    No matter what combination of cables I use, it just wont connect with a long USB cable when the Iphone is discharged.
    Has any one used a powered USB hub on there spyder?
    Thank you
    JD
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    Just get a usb power outlet from Lamonster or one of the other vendors and run it to the battery or a switched supply. I got a combo outlet, usb on one side and cig lighter plug on the other. I added a separate fuse box that is wired to the battery and to a switched circuit. Then I can add up to 6 additional accessories that can be either hot or switched. I use the 12v side to plug in the battery tender.


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    Quote Originally Posted by george123 View Post
    Just get a usb power outlet from Lamonster or one of the other vendors and run it to the battery or a switched supply. I got a combo outlet, usb on one side and cig lighter plug on the other. I added a separate fuse box that is wired to the battery and to a switched circuit. Then I can add up to 6 additional accessories that can be either hot or switched. I use the 12v side to plug in the battery tender.
    Thank you for the post.
    But I still want to connect my iphone to the spyder for' BRP connect" and other things.
    I am also thinking of you idea too.
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    Default USB

    Try a high quality cable,such as Anker power line 2,available at amazon .

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    Hello All fellow spyder riders.
    I got a good one.
    I have a 2018 spyder RT Limited
    The USB plug is in the frunk, but I want my iphone on the handle bars.
    I was able to bring a lighting and a USB coupler cable from the frunk to the handle bars, but it will only connect to the BRP connect when the iphone battery is almost fully charged.
    If I use a short lighting cable from the frunk, it works fine.
    It also does not charge very fast too.
    No matter what combination of cables I use, it just wont connect with a long USB cable when the Iphone is discharged.
    Quote Originally Posted by Johndeeredoo View Post
    Has any one used a powered USB hub on there spyder?JD
    Certainly can work, IF you can find a powered hub that will accept 12 input or you use a voltage adapter to step the 12 vdc down to whatever the hub requires for an input. The ones I could find that are 12 vdc out of the box were a little pricey, but I didn't spend more than 5 minutes looking. Let us know if you go this way. I, for one, would be interested.

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    Default 6 feet long

    I found a 6 foot long cable on Amazon ( 3 pack ). They are shielded and reasonably priced.
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    Default Better cable

    You need a better cable. Get a high quality usb extension cable. It must be usb 2 rated or better. Also labeled for fast charge, compatible with quick charge or something similar. Run that up to near where you want it. Then use a short lighting cable from there.

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    I used an Apple cable that came with an old I-Pad. Works great for charging and BRP Connect. Looks like BRP likes Apple products.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdakers View Post
    Hello All fellow spyder riders.
    I got a good one.
    I have a 2018 spyder RT Limited
    The USB plug is in the frunk, but I want my iphone on the handle bars.
    I was able to bring a lighting and a USB coupler cable from the frunk to the handle bars, but it will only connect to the BRP connect when the iphone battery is almost fully charged.
    If I use a short lighting cable from the frunk, it works fine.
    It also does not charge very fast too.
    No matter what combination of cables I use, it just wont connect with a long USB cable when the Iphone is discharged.

    Certainly can work, IF you can find a powered hub that will accept 12 input or you use a voltage adapter to step the 12 vdc down to whatever the hub requires for an input. The ones I could find that are 12 vdc out of the box were a little pricey, but I didn't spend more than 5 minutes looking. Let us know if you go this way. I, for one, would be interested.

    Craig
    I live in south haven mi. And found a automotive powered hub at menards. Not very expensive at all.
    i will keep you posted on how it works.
    thank you for your help.
    JD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johndeeredoo View Post
    I live in south haven mi. And found a automotive powered hub at menards. Not very expensive at all.
    i will keep you posted on how it works.
    thank you for your help.
    JD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johndeeredoo View Post
    I live in south haven mi. And found a automotive powered hub at menards. Not very expensive at all.
    i will keep you posted on how it works.
    thank you for your help.
    JD
    I looked at Menards online and found one, possibly the one you found, but none of the stores in my area have it and it isn't available online. Let us know how it works - there are a couple of stores in other areas I get to once in a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdakers View Post
    I looked at Menards online and found one, possibly the one you found, but none of the stores in my area have it and it isn't available online. Let us know how it works - there are a couple of stores in other areas I get to once in a while.

    Craig

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    Hello Craig and all that have replied, and thank you for your posts.
    Here is a picture of what I was thinking of getting.
    I forgot to mention in my first post that all the cables are top of the line cables, and all have been tested and passed connecting my iphone to my other computers.
    It was just the spyder that is finicky with then at some time.
    JD

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    That's certainly cheap enough to roll the dice on. I would try it.
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    I bought the shielded ones off Amazon, they are junk.
    only my opinion....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lew L View Post
    I found a 6 foot long cable on Amazon ( 3 pack ). They are shielded and reasonably priced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdakers View Post
    That's certainly cheap enough to roll the dice on. I would try it.
    Well that did not work, I wanted a powered hub not a power hub.
    i tried a powered hub I had, but it did not work with the spyder and my iPhone.
    Back to the drawing board. I do have another idea through.

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    Since my thinking is, Where does it connect to inside the Spyder (USB). I am guessing somewhere around the infotainment system.

    See if you can T-Off of that area or remove/move the USB and just run an extention cable to the front.

    If they are in the same spot it would be under the right Passenger grip for the main unit. (Where all the infotainment stuff plugs into)

    Just throwing out an idea.

    If a 2018 diagram was avaibale it may help too.

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    None of the infotainment system is in the rear of the 2018 Spyder. Except of course the rear speakers and radio antenna. Everything is in the gauge cluster and 6 channel audio amp.

    The usb cable goes directly into the gauge cluster. It is 2 way. It charges your phone and transfers app data to the screen. It also is used to update the gauge cluster firmware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trikermutha View Post
    Since my thinking is, Where does it connect to inside the Spyder (USB). I am guessing somewhere around the infotainment system.

    See if you can T-Off of that area or remove/move the USB and just run an extention cable to the front.

    If they are in the same spot it would be under the right Passenger grip for the main unit. (Where all the infotainment stuff plugs into)

    Just throwing out an idea.

    If a 2018 diagram was avaibale it may help too.
    Thank you for your input.
    i was thinking of the same thing too.
    chang location of connection from the fronk to some place closer to the handle bars and use a shorter cable.

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    Default Same issue and hoping this will solve it!

    Found this on the Lamonster Garage site and it looks like it will be the solution! Headed up there this week for the Spyders in the Ozarks event on my new 2018 RTL and plan to have this installed. Will report back! http://www.lamonstergarage.com/lamon...er-motorcycle/

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    See posts 18 and 19 this should help your issue.

    Infotainment now is in the dash. Learned something new today

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    Quote Originally Posted by trikermutha View Post
    See posts 18 and 19 this should help your issue.

    Infotainment now is in the dash. Learned something new today
    Well the problem is solved.
    I routed the factory USB cable from the frunk to the handle bars, and yes, it comes from the dash.
    It would have been easier just to pull the cable back up, instead of running a USB cable from the handle bars to the frunk.
    Since my Iphone is now on my handle bars, you still need to follow BRP guide lines to sinks the units.
    Plug in you phone and unlock it, and then turn on your spyder.
    It will auto sink.
    If you push you home button on you iphone to see the screen to do something else, it will not sink if you push the little button on the back of the handle bars. You will need to restart the BRP app.


    Thank you for all you input.
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    Glad it worked out cheap too

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