DESS Key code again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ThreeWheels]

Keep us up to date. If you get the "D.E.S.S. issue, please post on this thread. Deanna

I was getting some very loud static background through my bluetooth system.
After replacement of the D.E.S.S. module with the 2016 design, the background noise seems to have gone.

[Deanna777]

I was getting some very loud static background through my bluetooth system.
After replacement of the D.E.S.S. module with the 2016 design, the background noise seems to have gone.

Did your can-am dealer reprogram both keys/and changed the back trunk lock?
Deanna

[ThreeWheels]

Did your can-am dealer reprogram both keys/and changed the back trunk lock?
Deanna

No need for that. The part they changed was the electronic module, Not the ignition.

[Deanna777]

No need for that. The part they changed was the electronic module, Not the ignition.

The 2nd time I had the D.E.S.S. error, my can-am dealership replaced the D.E.S.S Module, ignition Switch, changed the lock in the rear trunk, gave me a new trailer lock, & reshaped both of my keys.

Did they replace the D.E.S.S. module?


What is the part # for the electronic module?

Deanna

[gypsy_100]

These changes are going to drive us, and the tech's, crazy. BRP did change the DESS for 2014's to the 710004190 number, as we all know by now. More recently, they changed the 2014 ignition switch number also, from 710003598 to 710004413. I recall that is the number they installed on your 2014 this last time around, before the number was even listed in the parts manuals.

For 2015, both the DESS and switch numbers are different from 2014 -- 710004241 for the 2015 DESS and 710004277 for the 2015 switch. Whether they are backward compatible with the 2014 units, who knows?? Did they change the DESS again in 2016 and is it backward compatible? Who knows?? The 2016 part numbers for these parts are not yet on the website that I can find. Pages still under construction. If someone did indeed get a 2016 part, it'd be nice to know the number and what it can be retrofitted to. Does it need a 2016 switch? Apparently not if they did not change the switch and it all works well.

[Deanna777]

These changes are going to drive us, and the tech's, crazy. BRP did change the DESS for 2014's to the 710004190 number, as we all know by now. More recently, they changed the 2014 ignition switch number also, from 710003598 to 710004413. I recall that is the number they installed on your 2014 this last time around, before the number was even listed in the parts manuals.

For 2015, both the DESS and switch numbers are different from 2014 -- 710004241 for the 2015 DESS and 710004277 for the 2015 switch. Whether they are backward compatible with the 2014 units, who knows?? Did they change the DESS again in 2016 and is it backward compatible? Who knows?? The 2016 part numbers for these parts are not yet on the website that I can find. Pages still under construction. If someone did indeed get a 2016 part, it'd be nice to know the number and what it can be retrofitted to. Does it need a 2016 switch? Apparently not if they did not change the switch and it all works well.

Yes, the part # 710004413 (Switch) was installed on my 2014RTS-SE6. Let me know when the part # 710004413 shows up on the website. Good Luck, glad I could help.

I agree with you the changes will drive us (Spyder owners) and the tech's crazy. Keep us posted. Deanna

[gypsy_100]

Both of my keys work in the ignition, and my spare key stayed in my closet the whole time this repair was made, so there is no way it was re-programmed.
The DESS module was the only thing replaced.
The part number is 710004916.
This must be backwards compatible with my 2014 RTS, since this is what they installed, and it works fine.......................for now.

Yes, the part # 710004413 (Switch) was installed on my 2014RTS-SE6. Let me know when the part # 710004413 shows up on the website. Good Luck, glad I could help.

I agree with you the changes will drive us (Spyder owners) and the tech's crazy. Keep us posted. Deanna

Three Wheels, thanks for the part number. It shows up as an "unknown" part number so it could indeed be a 2016 that hasn't made the parts list yet. If so, we have three consecutive model years with three different DESS numbers (with the latest 2014 number being an upgraded number). And at least two different ignition switch numbers (with the latest 2014 number being an upgraded number). Apparently all compatible but the manuals don't say that the older versions have been upgraded to the newer versions. At least not yet. Stay tuned.

Deanna, the 4413 switch is on the website. It showed up not too long after you had it installed. Isn't it nice to know you were ahead of the curve?

[ThreeWheels]

Deanna777

Both of my keys work in the ignition, and my spare key stayed in my closet the whole time this repair was made, so there is no way it was re-programmed.
The DESS module was the only thing replaced.
The part number is 710004916.
This must be backwards compatible with my 2014 RTS, since this is what they installed, and it works fine.......................for now.

[Deanna777]

Both of my keys work in the ignition, and my spare key stayed in my closet the whole time this repair was made, so there is no way it was re-programmed.
The DESS module was the only thing replaced.
The part number is 710004916.
This must be backwards compatible with my 2014 RTS, since this is what they installed, and it works fine.......................for now.

Does both of /and spare key work in the ignition?


How come your can-am dealership did not replace the switch?

Does the part # 710004916 compatible with the 2015 spyder?


Or is the part # 710004916 fit the 2016 spyder models?
Get your keys/and spare key reprogramed, my can-am dealership reprogramed my keys the 2nd time.
Deanna

[ThreeWheels]

Does both of /and spare key work in the ignition?


How come your can-am dealership did not replace the switch?

Does the part # 710004916 compatible with the 2015 spyder?


Or is the part # 710004916 fit the 2016 spyder models?
Get your keys/and spare key reprogramed, my can-am dealership reprogramed my keys the 2nd time.
Deanna

Both of my keys work in the ignition, and my spare key stayed in my closet the whole time this repair was made, so there is no way it was re-programmed.
The DESS module was the only thing replaced.
The part number is 710004916.
This must be backwards compatible with my 2014 RTS, since this is what they installed, and it works fine.......................for now.

I'm sorry, I just don't know how to be more explicit.

My Can Am dealer did not replace my ignition switch because it was deemed unnecessary.
Perhaps this is a sign of the evolution of diagnosing these DESS problems.

[RTL1330]

Does both of /and spare key work in the ignition?


How come your can-am dealership did not replace the switch?

Does the part # 710004916 compatible with the 2015 spyder?


Or is the part # 710004916 fit the 2016 spyder models?
Get your keys/and spare key reprogramed, my can-am dealership reprogramed my keys the 2nd time.
Deanna

Hi, not sure if this said already but...
Unit 2014 RTS - my brother in-law had his module changed at a dealer and then a few months later same error messages and no start. He took it to a second dealer who told him the first dealer installed a module that was old part number / firm ware. They ordered updated module and installed it.
both done on warranty and so far no more trouble. But it's only been couple months now so fingers crossed.
I have a 2014 RTL and no troubles yet, 20K on it and fingers crossed.