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Originally Posted by Magdave
Hmm one picture is worth a thousand words
I can totally understand that. Over the past 6 years I have owned 3 Yamaha's and 2 Spyders (2009 RS and 2012 RT). I currently own and ride a 2015 Yamaha FJ-09. The RS never gave me any problems. The RT gave me the orange screen twice. Both times it restarted and I was able to continue on home. Although it never left me stranded I never trusted it again after that first orange screen. More than anything that caused me to trade it. It may have been totally reliable and had I kept it I may have ridden thousands of trouble free miles. However when you do not trust your machine there is always that doubt in the back of your mind and I could not enjoy a ride like that. I have never ever doubted my Yamaha's including the FJ-09. When considering a long ride or while riding I never give a breakdown (other than the possibility of a flat) the time of day. I gave up having the wife riding behind me as she won't go 2 up on 2 wheels, but she didn't ride with me that much anyway and she is okay with me going alone on the Yamaha. Had BRP introduced a lighter, faster, better handling RS with a detuned nanny for 2015 instead of that John Deere lawn mower otherwise known as the F3 I might, repeat might, have considered it instead of the Yamaha, but now that I have the FJ-09 I don't see myself riding anything else for a very long time. It is one sweet machine.
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Originally Posted by dndfindley
...I gave up having the wife riding behind me as she won't go 2 up on 2 wheels, but she didn't ride with me that much anyway and she is okay with me going alone on the Yamaha. Had BRP introduced a lighter, faster, better handling RS with a detuned nanny for 2015 instead of that John Deere lawn mower otherwise known as the F3 I might, repeat might, have considered it instead of the Yamaha, but now that I have the FJ-09 I don't see myself riding anything else for a very long time. It is one sweet machine.
Apparently, you're happy with yourself and your selection. I'm sure this forum, http://fj-09.org/, will appreciate your humor and support.
See you on the road - I'll be riding a white "John Deere".
Wayne
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When ever I see some chart or stats it reminds me to think of something that my old man , a Montana Cowboy born in 1912 taught me .
"figures don't lie son but liars can figure " just saying one needs to look at the whole picture .
Let's play nice kids , we all share the same sandbox.
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Originally Posted by easysuper
When ever I see some chart or stats it reminds me to think of something that my old man , a Montana Cowboy born in 1912 taught me .
"figures don't lie son but liars can figure " just saying one needs to look at the whole picture .
Let's play nice kids , we all share the same sandbox.
Yup and "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make 'em drink"
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Originally Posted by pauly1
Apparently, you're happy with yourself and your selection. I'm sure this forum, http://fj-09.org/, will appreciate your humor and support.
See you on the road - I'll be riding a white "John Deere".
Wayne
Your back handed attempt at humor was kinda lame but thanks for the link to the FJ-09 forum. However I have been a member of that forum since December when I purchased the FJ-09. Know what else? A person can actually be a member of more than one forum at a time. I know you wish I would leave this one but I'm not, at least not yet. There are several other regulars here who no longer ride Spyders but continue to socialize. That is what I am doing as well.
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I for one; am glad that you've stuck around...
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Originally Posted by Bob Denman
I for one; am glad that you've stuck around...
Thank you Bob.
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Originally Posted by Magdave
Hmm one picture is worth a thousand words
Originally Posted by MikeinGA
Consumer Reports has always been is a good at getting the best data on a product. It looks like fair report. I'm one of the 42% and I think it's a good number.
Mike
Update!!! April 11/ 2015 my rear shock blew out with only 17,500 mile on my 2011 RS-S SE5 and the Spyder bounce around on the highway. I have already replace my front shocks at 10,000 miles. I pulled my maintenance records and review them. It looks like my Spyder needs to be repaired about every 3,000 miles due to a substandard parts. So! That 42% is low number. Oh yes shocks like other parts I had to replace are not covered under warranty. So! You think BRP cares. That IMHO.
Mike
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The last post was over four years ago. Is the situation better now? I want to buy one.
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Originally Posted by XB12X
The last post was over four years ago. Is the situation better now? I want to buy one.
Let us hope that things are better now.I just purchased a 2021 Ryker 900
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2020RT with 10,000 since September 2020. One trip back to the dealer for failed fuel sending unit -- not a game stopper at all. Like any machine (especially with computers involved), there are a few wrinkles and annoyances.
Head in the game, eyes down the road... 2020RT
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I guess I should count myself lucky then. I have owned 8 BMWs and logged over 420K miles on them since 1977. 375K+ of those miles have been since April of 2000 when I returned from a 20 year hiatus from riding. I have also logged just little over 9K on my wife's Spyder RT since purchase in Oct. 2017 & have not had to take any of them to a shop for repairs. One of the BMWs I chose to take to the shop because it was still under warranty, but it was just for routine maintenance as have been all of the repairs I have made on all of the bikes since beginning riding in 1968 with the exception of replacing a final drive bearing on the '00 R1200C at ~113K miles. But hey, no machine has parts that last forever and I did that work myself in about 3 hours.
I think charts like this can be very misleading because they do not account for:
accumulated mileage
average age of riders
financial ability to afford shop fees per typical brand owners
mechanical knowledge of typical owners
normal riding style associated with each brand
and probably a lot of other factors. In short, the chart is useless information due to lack of mention or consideration of confounding variables.
Those who say " I can't" will always be right.
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Old post or not, the information of the chart is still useless and the responses to it are still valid.
Those who say " I can't" will always be right.
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Originally Posted by cruisinTX
Old post or not, the information of the chart is still useless and the responses to it are still valid.
Sorry
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 05-31-2021 at 01:39 PM.
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no need to be sorry, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Those who say " I can't" will always be right.
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