Thermal event

[JCSMOKE]

Just heard about this last night and had to wait until this morning to read the thread. Ann, glad you are ok and sorry for the troubles you have had to deal with. You know you have a bunch of people pulling for you and the post by BRP looks promising. I do have to say, I wonder what you will do, is it worth it to try again? Will you go a year back? Will you hop a year forward? What color? With Flames or without? Will you put a Spyder decal on the new one to show you took one down? Will you park it on a grassy knoll and take 3 pictures of it? Will you install and auto eject for all your bags? So many questions, so much to think about.
Mike
JCSMOKE

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Just throwin this out there ' maybe BRP should consider CERAMIC coated pipes from the factory....Yes it's not cheap , however on the scale BRP would be doing this I think it would be a cost effective solution.....From what I've read about some CERAMIC coatings, they can lower the outside temps quite a bit .....Just a thought.....Mike

[Bob Denman]

by doing it with all of their bikes; it'd give them a break on the pricing...
But there's more to this, than just underbody heat...

[Magdave]

by doing it with all of their bikes; it'd give them a break on the pricing...
But there's more to this, than just underbody heat...

With the big scoop up front you would think the could route just a little air to the engine area wouldn't you?

[shelbydave]

Just throwin this out there ' maybe BRP should consider CERAMIC coated pipes from the factory....Yes it's not cheap , however on the scale BRP would be doing this I think it would be a cost effective solution.....From what I've read about some CERAMIC coatings, they can lower the outside temps quite a bit .....Just a thought.....Mike

For me, the jury is still out on coating / wrapping the pipes. Yes it will lower heat outside the pipe, but it also keeps heat IN the pipes. I wonder what could happen to the life span of the CAT...

Now, wrapping the pipes may afford them the ability to move the CAT further back, and out from the tupperware... maybe in the muffler housing...

[SpyderAnn01]

After reading all the posts about Ann's fire, glad she is fine and kept her wits and was able to
get the spyder off the road and away from it before it went up in flames.

This is just my thought. Someone said they were going to start carrying a fire extinguisher, that's
fine. But how effective is an extinguisher going to be on a spyder? It's not a two wheeler where
everything is exposed and you could knock a fire down. You have an enclosed engine and you are not going to get to the source of the fire without removing tupperware.

One solution would be to have an on board fire suppressant system like they have in race cars,
but then that would add $$$$ to the cost of the spyder

Again, glad Ann is fine and I hope BRP resolves the problem.

I agree that a fire extinguisher probably wouldn't have done much good as the fire was under the tupperware so I don't think I could have hit the source of the fire with an extinguisher. And that would create another dilemma, do you try to extinguish the fire or do you try to get your stuff out before it is engulfed? Insurance doesn't cover personal property on the bike.

Just heard about this last night and had to wait until this morning to read the thread. Ann, glad you are ok and sorry for the troubles you have had to deal with. You know you have a bunch of people pulling for you and the post by BRP looks promising. I do have to say, I wonder what you will do, is it worth it to try again? Will you go a year back? Will you hop a year forward? What color? With Flames or without? Will you put a Spyder decal on the new one to show you took one down? Will you park it on a grassy knoll and take 3 pictures of it? Will you install and auto eject for all your bags? So many questions, so much to think about.
Mike
JCSMOKE

Time will tell. I will definitely get another Spyder and I'm leaning toward a 2014 as 2013 wasn't so good for me. The yellow has really grown on me and I would probably go with that again. A definite no to the flames, they're not my thing. I like the decal idea that would be like DocDoru and his 3 engines with the X through them.

An auto eject for the bags would have been sweet. Especially since I wasn't able to get everything out of it and insurance won't cover what I lost. But then you would have the question of do you eject the rear bags upward or sideways? Sideways could have taken out a passerby as they were slowly going past me while taking a video of the fire.

I did bring home a piece of the carcass and I may mount it and hang it on a wall and/or take the little piece off of it and have it made into a necklace. Thanks L for that idea.
Spyder melted blob.jpg

[shelbydave]

I did bring home a piece of the carcass and I may mount it and hang it on a wall and/or take the little piece off of it and have it made into a necklace. Thanks L for that idea.
Spyder melted blob.jpg

Is that Aluminium? I guess that did get a bit warm....

Instead of a fire extinguisher, I think we'll carry marshmallows, Graham crackers, and Hershey bars....

[jwulf74]

Has anyone tried the Veritas upper and/or lower scoops to see if the help with the heat removal?.. looks like an expensive set of panels + paint. But if they remedy the situation they might be worth it...

Saw the upper ones on Tricleds page...

[Bob Denman]

With the big scoop up front you would think the could route just a little air to the engine area wouldn't you?

I do believe that the 2014s were sporting some intake points along the leading edge of the frunkwork...

I agree that a fire extinguisher probably wouldn't have done much good as the fire was under the tupperware so I don't think I could have hit the source of the fire with an extinguisher. And that would create another dilemma, do you try to extinguish the fire or do you try to get your stuff out before it is engulfed? Insurance doesn't cover personal property on the bike.
Anne,
Your Homeowners policy might...



Time will tell. I will definitely get another Spyder and I'm leaning toward a 2014 as 2013 wasn't so good for me. The yellow has really grown on me and I would probably go with that again. A definite no to the flames, they're not my thing. I like the decal idea that would be like DocDoru and his 3 engines with the X through them.

I did bring home a piece of the carcass and I may mount it and hang it on a wall and/or take the little piece off of it and have it made into a necklace. Thanks L for that idea.
Spyder melted blob.jpg

You could probably auction that lump of "tin" amongst your friends in here to raise money for a good cause...

[DocRags]

I think the reason some folks have mentioned having a fire extinguisher is in case it's needed for the person/people on the Spyder, not for the actual bike.

[finless]

I agree with the extinguisher probably not working on a gas fire inside the Tupperware.

This video shows a guy unloading a good sized chem fire extinguisher on the burning spyder and it basically did nothing!




I am not saying not to carry one but it clearly cant get inside. Then later in the vid you see the gas tank vent the fuel and resulting shooting flame. Not sure I would want to be trying to put the thing out with an extinguisher when that happens. I would also imagine the tupperware when burning is like napalm? I sure would not want to get burning plastic thrown on me.

My stance is let it burn and keep yourself safe!


Bob

[TuckMiddle]

Shelbydave and shadow

My post above said. "I'm not so sure it'd do any good in your case...........

Don't you think I'm at least smart enough to know the ext won't help in her case?

I erased the rest of my comment. I must be having a bad hair day and didn't realise it until I reread my snotty response.

Have a good day and hope you don't need a fire ext for any reason.

Tuck

[Bob Denman]

It appears that the recent issues with "excessive heat". is getting many folks a bit hot under the collar...

[Yazz]

I did bring home a piece of the carcass and I may mount it and hang it on a wall and/or take the little piece off of it and have it made into a necklace. Thanks L for that idea.
Spyder melted blob.jpg

Love the jewelry idea! Been there, done that, got the necklace.

It appears that the recent issues with "excessive heat". is getting many folks a bit hot under the collar...

Nah, Just talking about bling here...

[Lilly]

Im really sorry this happened to Ann. It SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED. This is not the second 2013 RT to go up in flames. This is the third one I have read about. One happened over 6 months ago. It was not as badly burned because a fire extinguisher was close at hand.however all the Tupperware was melted, the seat burned to a crisp. The bike was a total loss. After numerous letters to BRP the owner finally received a call. BRP was not interested in investigating the intact carcass and the owner was told to take care of it with her insurance. After six months of frustration, the owner finally gave up trying to talk to BRP. Possibly, if BRP had inspected that bike, Ann would not be in the position she is now.

I was hoping somebody would respond to this concerning the 3rd spyder & how the TV stations & newspapers was not interested in her story ++ no attorney would take her case cause she had not been injured>>>Thanks Jharpo

[TexasSpyder]

Is that Aluminium? I guess that did get a bit warm....

Instead of a fire extinguisher, I think we'll carry marshmallows, Graham crackers, and Hershey bars....

I have seen many times where Aluminum wheels melt in auto fires.

J. D.

[ARCTIC]

I have seen many times where Aluminum wheels melt in auto fires.

J. D.

Yep, like most of the time

[rhansen309]

We have been out of town with limited internet access. This is the first time I have been on the site and we are very happy she is ok. Like many have said we hope insurance and BRP take care of her.

[Flash Gordon]

Can someone tell me why the picture in the middle does not appear to have been taken at the same location as the two on each side of it. Notice the line of electric poles in the left picture, and none in the middle one? Also, the roadway markings are the same in the two pictures showing the wet spot and what is left, but the center photo does not have any broken white lines as the other two have. The lanes and concrete dividers do not appear to be the same. I think maybe who ever posted these three pictures may have made a mistake and placed the one in the middle in error. I think it was a different event. (just saying)

Come on, give me a break. I was NOT accusing anyone of anything. I am a new owner, and I was just asking a question. Obviously, it is not real popular to do anything like that. Sorry if I offended anyone. It certainly was not my intent. My Bad!! OK?

[SpyderAnn01]

Come on, give me a break. I was NOT accusing anyone of anything. I am a new owner, and I was just asking a question. Obviously, it is not real popular to do anything like that. Sorry if I offended anyone. It certainly was not my intent. My Bad!! OK?

Apology accepted.

[AbNormy]

I agree that a fire extinguisher probably wouldn't have done much good as the fire was under the tupperware so I don't think I could have hit the source of the fire with an extinguisher. And that would create another dilemma, do you try to extinguish the fire or do you try to get your stuff out before it is engulfed? Insurance doesn't cover personal property on the bike.



Time will tell. I will definitely get another Spyder and I'm leaning toward a 2014 as 2013 wasn't so good for me. The yellow has really grown on me and I would probably go with that again. A definite no to the flames, they're not my thing. I like the decal idea that would be like DocDoru and his 3 engines with the X through them.

An auto eject for the bags would have been sweet. Especially since I wasn't able to get everything out of it and insurance won't cover what I lost. But then you would have the question of do you eject the rear bags upward or sideways? Sideways could have taken out a passerby as they were slowly going past me while taking a video of the fire.

I did bring home a piece of the carcass and I may mount it and hang it on a wall and/or take the little piece off of it and have it made into a necklace. Thanks L for that idea.
Spyder melted blob.jpg

that's a pricey ornament but we're just glad you're ok! I've got Dairlyland but should customers be subsidizing BRPs R&D?

[Spyder_Cowgirl]

Come on, give me a break. I was NOT accusing anyone of anything. I am a new owner, and I was just asking a question. Obviously, it is not real popular to do anything like that. Sorry if I offended anyone. It certainly was not my intent. My Bad!! OK?

Flash .... I could see you were new to SpyderLovers and that is why I tempered my response with an explanation. Hopefully the indication of picture angle answered your question. Like SpyderAnn01, I also accept your apology.

Don't be too hard on SpyderLovers for jumping on your case ... as you can see we are a passionate bunch that care deeply about each other and our Spyders! Once you get to know us, and post some more, I think you will find this board contains a wealth of information and serves to enhance the ryde of many members.

Best Regards ... Ann

[Bob Denman]

Anne,
I think that my response to your statement about coverage for your personal belongings got buried in my clumsy attempts in here...
Check with your Homeowner's carrier; coverage may lie with them...
Cause of loss: FIRE
I don't know of too many homeowners policies that exclude fire coverage...
Good Luck!

[oldgoat]

The contents of my Spyder's luggage are covered for fire & theft by my household policy

[SpyderAnn01]

Anne,
I think that my response to your statement about coverage for your personal belongings got buried in my clumsy attempts in here...
Check with your Homeowner's carrier; coverage may lie with them...
Cause of loss: FIRE
I don't know of too many homeowners policies that exclude fire coverage...
Good Luck!

Bob, I'm sure our homeowners would cover it but we have a $1000 deductible. We were having this discussion on Girls on Spyders and one of the ladies who has the same insurance as me called her agent as she had over $3000 in farkles on her Spyder and she was able to up the limit to $6000 which also got her $2000 in personal property coverage.