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SpyderLovers Founder
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Re: Hand Brake
Hey where'd you get the idea to weld it to the brake arm barrel? :bigthumbsup:
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SpyderLovers Founder
Re: Hand Brake
Originally Posted by Magic Man
Hey where'd you get the idea to weld it to the brake arm barrel? :bigthumbsup:
I had the idea I was just trying to get around it.
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Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
Great minds think alike!
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Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
Thanks Lamont, and MagicMan!!!
I know youve both been working on a very simialr system.
Im glad you posted this, as I was about to contact both of you soon for some good pics and thoughts on your systems.
I understand about not wanting to provide kits and all, but would either of you be willing to provide some measured drawings and or parts lists for your setups?
Did you both end up with about thesame angle and length of pull? If not, any guesses on which one provides more positive braking?
Thanks again, as Im sure you remember I will be installing this type setup on mine as I will have limited use of the foot brake without applying my whole foot (thats how I did the test drive, it worked but not comfortable in emergency situations) and this would provide me a lil more peace of mind.
Thanks guys!!! :bigthumbsup:
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Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
I had this set up type of system on my Spyder in Daytona when Lamonster came to see me. He had the same idea but was not sure how it would all work out till he say how good mine worked. Then he went back and made a real nice system for his too. He is the best at photos and such, however I don't know now that both of our bikes are together if a drawing is possiable as the parts are all welded together at least on mine. Maybe Lamonster made a drawing of his bracket as he is real good at keeping a log of his mods? The photos he has here show real nice how he did it and it looks pretty clear on what to do. If you need any advice I'd be glad to talk to you on phone anytime. Lamonster has a real nice lower bracket picture here and I think you might be able to use it as a good guide for yours.
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SpyderLovers Founder
Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
Like MM said I saw his setup in Daytona and his worked better than my bolt-up setup. I was able to use the same bracket and just scoot it over and weld it. I think the fact that there is no slop now and the cable has a good strait pull is what made it work for me. You can pretty much make the top bracket first and then make the bottom bracket to fit the top with the right angle. It's not that hard of a job.
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Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
Thanks guys!!!
Ill get mine tore apart and take a look at it when I get it, and Im sure I can fab up something from all your descriptions and pics.
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Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
Lamonster, have you looked at the possibility of having the cable end move freely through the barrel that connects it to the bracket you made and welded to the brake pedal? In other words, passing through the little barrel with a stop-bead on the cable end.
I ask this because I once made a setup for a hand brake on the rear brake pedal of a dual sport. I still had the normal hand brake for the front disk and then another right side hand brake lever so I could drag the rear brake when "tripoding" with both feet, going down steep, sandy, drop-offs. I found that I didn't like the cable slacking when I used the foot pedal for braking so I rigged it up to allow the cable end to slip through, when the foot pedal would try to push it up. I liked the setup much better after that.
Frank
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SpyderLovers Founder
Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
I didn't try that but I'm sure it would work great. Mine works fine the way it is for me and the lever doesn't move when to step on the brakes but it is a little loose like you say.
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SpyderLovers Founder
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Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
Cool!!!
Originally Posted by Lamonster
...the only downside I can see is cables do break and if that's all you were counting on that could be bad.
Believe me, Ive had this in my mind as well. I can still brake with the foot if I rock my hip forward, or slide my whole foot onto the pedal. I will probably make it a habit to keep the foot at the ready to back up the cable system.
Thanks again for all the help!
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Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
:bigthumbsup:Now that you have had the brake on there, how do you like the hand brake. I really do not like the foot brake and am interested.
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SpyderLovers Founder
Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
Originally Posted by Last Spyder
:bigthumbsup:Now that you have had the brake on there, how do you like the hand brake. I really do not like the foot brake and am interested.
I love it. This was the second day riding with it and I don't use the foot brake much at all now.
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Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
Thanks for taking the time to post pics and info, i will be going this route. Thanks
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Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
What purpose do the two bolts serve?
-Scotty
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SpyderLovers Founder
Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
Originally Posted by NancysToy
What purpose do the two bolts serve?
-Scotty
They space and hold the barrel in place but alow it to move in the bracket.
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Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
Great idea & execution. Now we'll have to wait until someone comes up with a kit so the mechanically declined (sic) rest of us can convert.
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Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
Originally Posted by Lamonster
They space and hold the barrel in place but alow it to move in the bracket.
Thanks! Not having had it apart, I just wasn't sure. Knew there had to be a good reason not to weld in a spacer.
-Scotty
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SpyderLovers Founder
Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
Originally Posted by NancysToy
Thanks! Not having had it apart, I just wasn't sure. Knew there had to be a good reason not to weld in a spacer.
-Scotty
I guess I could have welded in a spaced but this worked just as good and if I go with a larger cable I can add a washer if need be.
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Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
Toyota slave cylinder behind the factory slave to a Brembo Master on the handlebars...works great!
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Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
Originally Posted by SpyderGimp
Toyota slave cylinder behind the factory slave to a Brembo Master on the handlebars...works great!
Excellent!!!
Looks great! Did you fab the "yoke" that ataches it to the pedal point or is that off the shelf for something else?
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SpyderLovers Founder
Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
Nice job. :bigthumbsup: I didn't think about running hard line to the slave but that will work great if you then run a flex to the master. :bigthumbsup:
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Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
I don't get it. The foot brake on the Spyder is for the back or front? You installed a HAND brake for the FRONT? So does this mean that when you press on the foot break, it is ONLY for the back? Or does it work for BOTH front and back? Sorry if I'm asking something that seems basic.
Derwin
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Re: Lamonster Hand Brake
Originally Posted by Derwin
I don't get it. The foot brake on the Spyder is for the back or front? You installed a HAND brake for the FRONT? So does this mean that when you press on the foot break, it is ONLY for the back? Or does it work for BOTH front and back? Sorry if I'm asking something that seems basic.
No, there is only the one brake on the bike and it does all the brakes. Adding a hand brake just gives you the option of using it to stop instead of the foot brake.
When I ask the reps at the demo ride why only a foot brake they said the ABS pulses and freaks people out when they felt it in their hand so they let go. That's why they took it off. I think it's a good idea to have and makes it easier to ride. Then all I need is to make myself some leg rests on the sides and get the SE5 and I'd never have to put my feet down!
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