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Where is the Schraeder valve? 2020 F3 Ltd
I have a 2020 F3 Ltd that I bought used last October. I assume it has air suspension but cannot locate the Schrader valve. I have a friend that owns a 2022 F3 Ltd and her valve is in plain sight under the passenger seat. Can any 2020 F3 Ltd owners elaborate?
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My '20 F3L has an automatic load leveler that adjusts the ride height depending on the load as standard equipment for the L model.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by JKMSPYDER
I have a 2020 F3 Ltd that I bought used last October. I assume it has air suspension but cannot locate the Schrader valve. I have a friend that owns a 2022 F3 Ltd and her valve is in plain sight under the passenger seat. Can any 2020 F3 Ltd owners elaborate?
Have you checked your owners manual ????? ...Mike
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I have a 2017 F3 Limited and it does not have a Schraeder valve. But I do believe that the F3 and maybe the F3S does have the Schraeder valve because they don't have the automatic leveling feature that the F3 Limited does. You have to manually add air to suit your comfort level.
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Nothing in the owner’s manual and nothing in the shop manual. I was just curious because my friend’s ‘22 F3 Ltd has a Schraeder valve under the passenger seat.
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I looked it up on a Can Am parts site and your year and model don't show a Schraeder valve! You have the auto system but no valve in the parts list that I could see!
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by JKMSPYDER
Nothing in the owner’s manual and nothing in the shop manual. I was just curious because my friend’s ‘22 F3 Ltd has a Schraeder valve under the passenger seat.
If yours adjusts automatically, then it will not have the manual adjust feature (Schraeder Valve). One reason that everyone should always be sure any advice given is applicable to their particular machine. There are many versions within the same model and year. Not to mention major differences over the span of Spyder production.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911
Have you checked your owners manual ????? ...Mike ![thumbup](images/smilies/thumbup.gif)
THAT right there is funny!
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I was going to ask what a Schraeder valve was? But if it's the bladder under the seat, that's where you will easily find it.
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Hmmmm... My 2022 RT Sea To Sky has auto load leveling AND the Schraeder valve located up front/right of the passenger seat.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by nealperkins
I was going to ask what a Schraeder valve was? But if it's the bladder under the seat, that's where you will easily find it.
A Schraeder valve is that funny little threaded thingy sticking out of every tire you own, nealperkins. You remove its cap and add air to inflate your tires.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by BajaRon
If yours adjusts automatically, then it will not have the manual adjust feature (Schraeder Valve). One reason that everyone should always be sure any advice given is applicable to their particular machine. There are many versions within the same model and year. Not to mention major differences over the span of Spyder production.
Since Troop and I both have auto levelling on our ‘21 and ‘22 RT Ltd, Ron... does that mean it is only the later F3 models that don’t have the Schraeder? ...or is the installation of the Schraeder left to the dealer assembler’s discretion? I have seen several instances where riders with the same year and model have posted that one HAS the Schraeder, while the other one doesn’t. Very odd.
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Setup for Tall & Big.... 200cm/6'7", 140kg/300lbs, 37"inleg.
HeliBars Handlebars
Brake rubber removed to lower pedal for easier long leg/Size 15 EEEEW boot access.
Ikon (Aussie) shocks all round.
Russell Daylong seat 2” taller than stock (in Sunbrella for Aussie heat & water resistance)
Goodyear Duragrip 165/60 fronts (18psi) - provides extra 1/2” ground clearance.
Kenda Kanine rear.
2021 RT Limited , Brake pedal rubber removed for ease of accessing pedal with size 15 boots. Red
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The 2020 F3 limited I owned did not have a Schraeder valve since the suspension was self leveling.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Redbeard
The 2020 F3 limited I owned did not have a Schraeder valve since the suspension was self leveling.
Yes, but self levelling suspension is obviously NOT the deciding factor as to whether you get a Schraeder, Redbeard, since the ‘20+ RTs have self levelling suspension AND a Schraeder valve.
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Harrington, Australia
2021 RT Limited
Setup for Tall & Big.... 200cm/6'7", 140kg/300lbs, 37"inleg.
HeliBars Handlebars
Brake rubber removed to lower pedal for easier long leg/Size 15 EEEEW boot access.
Ikon (Aussie) shocks all round.
Russell Daylong seat 2” taller than stock (in Sunbrella for Aussie heat & water resistance)
Goodyear Duragrip 165/60 fronts (18psi) - provides extra 1/2” ground clearance.
Kenda Kanine rear.
2021 RT Limited , Brake pedal rubber removed for ease of accessing pedal with size 15 boots. Red
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Maybe some F3L's with a compressor were deemed unworthy of having a schraeder valve.
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Personally I would rip the compressor out and only have the valve. That system's great, until it isn't, then dig into your pocket to fix it. Keep it stupid, simple; works great!
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The manual for my F3 says that a 2023 F3 Limited does not have a Schrader valve under the seat since it has a compressor that auto levels the machine.
With that said, there's a table of sorts that tells gives you the PSI spec that you should air up the valve to, there's even one under the passenger seat. Ok then...
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Setup for Tall & Big.... 200cm/6'7", 140kg/300lbs, 37"inleg.
HeliBars Handlebars
Brake rubber removed to lower pedal for easier long leg/Size 15 EEEEW boot access.
Ikon (Aussie) shocks all round.
Russell Daylong seat 2” taller than stock (in Sunbrella for Aussie heat & water resistance)
Goodyear Duragrip 165/60 fronts (18psi) - provides extra 1/2” ground clearance.
Kenda Kanine rear.
2021 RT Limited , Brake pedal rubber removed for ease of accessing pedal with size 15 boots. Red
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Peteoz
Have I read that right, Albec? You have a Schraeder valve under the seat of your ‘23 F3 Limited, but your manual says you don’t have one? There goes my theory that BRP have left them off the ‘20+ F3-L, but still include them on the ‘20+ RT-L
The plot thickens
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No, that's not what I said. The manual says that the Limited does not have the valve but gives the pressure spec for some reason, it's also under the passenger seat in a table. I've looked under the passenger seat and I do not find a valve on my Spyder.
At least I don't think that what I found is a valve. There is a weird looking connector though with what could be a very thin air line. One end of the line goes down towards the front of the machine while the other end goes to the back someplace.
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I didn't disconnect the thing, but I'm tempted just to see what's what with it. Looking closer, that does appear to be a valve. What say yous?
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I checked with canamoemparts.com - they list part # 706002797 on every Spyder and Ryker made from 2010 to present ..... Mike ....
Ps: they don't label it as a Schraeder valve tho.
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 06-03-2024 at 12:08 AM.
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Although F3 and RT models share some parts, they are not the same. We have owned F3-S, F3-T and F3-L models. The F3-S models (both were 2015 vintage) didn't have an air bag booster in the suspension as there was opportunity to easily access the coil over shock, although the standard shock was non-adjustable. The 2018 F3-T has a manual air bag booster with the Schraeder valve under the passenger seat. The F3-L models (2018 and 2023) both had auto leveling via an on-board air pump and no Schraeder valve under the seat.
Ps: I just searched the 2018 Owners Manual .pdf and was not able to locate any reference to the suspension adjustment.
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Albec
No, that's not what I said. The manual says that the Limited does not have the valve but gives the pressure spec for some reason, it's also under the passenger seat in a table. I've looked under the passenger seat and I do not find a valve on my Spyder.
At least I don't think that what I found is a valve. There is a weird looking connector though with what could be a very thin air line. One end of the line goes down towards the front of the machine while the other end goes to the back someplace.
I didn't disconnect the thing, but I'm tempted just to see what's what with it. Looking closer, that does appear to be a valve. What say yous?
Ahhhhhhh. Gotcha, Albec. Yes, that is definitely not a Schraeder. Unfortunately, I don’t have a clue what it is……sorry.
Looks like we are back to the ‘20+ RT-L having the Schraeder and the ‘20+ F3-L not, even though both have auto air. ![don't know](images/smilies/shrug.gif)
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Harrington, Australia
2021 RT Limited
Setup for Tall & Big.... 200cm/6'7", 140kg/300lbs, 37"inleg.
HeliBars Handlebars
Brake rubber removed to lower pedal for easier long leg/Size 15 EEEEW boot access.
Ikon (Aussie) shocks all round.
Russell Daylong seat 2” taller than stock (in Sunbrella for Aussie heat & water resistance)
Goodyear Duragrip 165/60 fronts (18psi) - provides extra 1/2” ground clearance.
Kenda Kanine rear.
2021 RT Limited , Brake pedal rubber removed for ease of accessing pedal with size 15 boots. Red
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by Peteoz
Ahhhhhhh. Gotcha, Albec. Yes, that is definitely not a Schraeder. Unfortunately, I don’t have a clue what it is……sorry.
Looks like we are back to the ‘20+ RT-L having the Schraeder and the ‘20+ F3-L not, even though both have auto air.
Pere
Ok, so that's not a Schraeder valve, what the heck is it?
I guess now I'm going to HAVE to follow the wires/lines that are attached to that connector and see where they go.
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Looks like a coax connector
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![Quote](images/misc/quote_icon.png) Originally Posted by EdMat
Looks like a coax connector
That was my first thought as well. Oh wait, I'll bet that it's the antenna connecter to the infotainment system.
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