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Which Tire Size for the fronts? What size are you running?
I plan in buying a set of Vredestein Quatrac's
for my 22 F3S. I'm not sure which size to buy. The 165/60R/15 , or the 175/55R/15. I want the speedo error as close to stock as possible. Also the 165 size is rated at 130 mph, while the 175 size is 118 mph. What size are you running? Thanks
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The spedo doesn't run off the front wheels so that won't affect it.
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Originally Posted by Dasmoetorhead
I plan in buying a set of Vredestein Quatrac's
for my 22 F3S. I'm not sure which size to buy. The 165/60R/15 , or the 175/55R/15. I want the speedo error as close to stock as possible. Also the 165 size is rated at 130 mph, while the 175 size is 118 mph. What size are you running? Thanks
The front tires have nothing 2 do with speedometer. The 175/55R/15 are about max on filling the front fender, have this size on my RTL 2020. Rear tire has speedometer, a 215/60R/15 puts you close with the speed error. Bill
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Front- Kumho KH-16 175/55r15 @17psi, Rear-General Altimax RT-45 215/60r15 @20psi
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Ok, thanks for the Speedometer info.
Will tire size effect the VSS ?
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Originally Posted by Dasmoetorhead
Ok, thanks for the Speedometer info.
Will tire size effect the VSS ?
Nope, as long as it fits the fenders, it will and has worked. Bill
2020 RTL Chrome, Marsala Red "Non-Directional Tires, Centramatic Balancers"
Front- Kumho KH-16 175/55r15 @17psi, Rear-General Altimax RT-45 215/60r15 @20psi
BaJa Ron Ultra 3 pcs sway bar kit
10W40 Amsoil Synthetic Motorcycle oil
7jurock 25" tinted windscreen w/flip
Frogman Dave's "Signal Button"
If in Doubt, Don't Do It!
" Pros: Excellent Bug Killer, Cons: Pizz Poor Pothole Dodger"
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I'm Happy with my 165/60/15's in the front, I have the 205/60/15 on the rear.
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Suspension: Wilbers Front and Rear Shocks, BajaRon Sway Bar, Vredestein Quatrac Front and Rear Tires
Comfort: Blue Ridge Windshield, Corbin Dual Touring Saddle, Ultimate Floorboards, OEM Passenger Backrest with Rear Shelf, OEM Passenger Floorboards Modified with High Risers from Pierre
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Thanks for your input. I'm thinking I'll go with the same size.
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My F3S has been at the dealership for the front end and handlebar shake since last Tuesday. They installed 2 new OE Tires, but that didn't help. They said they'd try another set. I'm tempted to order the new Vredestein and bring them to them to try, but I'm sure there'd be some kind of hassle with this approach. Just waiting for them to call back with further results. It's going to be raining for the next couple of days, so it's a good time for it to be in the shop.
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Originally Posted by Dasmoetorhead
My F3S has been at the dealership for the front end and handlebar shake since last Tuesday. They installed 2 new OE Tires, but that didn't help. They said they'd try another set. I'm tempted to order the new Vredestein and bring them to them to try, but I'm sure there'd be some kind of hassle with this approach. Just waiting for them to call back with further results. It's going to be raining for the next couple of days, so it's a good time for it to be in the shop.
#1- your Dealer may not mount Auto tires, call and check first .... #2- Kenda tires are Cr*p, that being the case I'm surprised you found two sets of Kenda's that won't balance !~!!! .... They arn't doing this work for free , ( unless it's still in WARRANTY )....so just do it yourself .... take off the wheels & tires and go to your friendly neighborhood tire place and have them TRY to SPIN balance your Kenda's, They may actually balance .... if so problem solved .... however it may take a lot of weights to do this, which means the Kenda's are defective .... if you get your Vredestein's ON-LINE, don't ask for any assistance or tell them it's for a Spyder ( ie. a motorcycle ) ... they probably will refuse to sell them to you ..... good luck .... Mike
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The f3s is brand new only have 900 miles on it so far. I'll see if the dealer can figure it out. If they do, I'm still going to go with new tires.
I know what your saying about not telling tirerack about the spyder. There's a box you can check on the order page, that says I don't want to tell you what these tires are going on. Thanks for the heads up.
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Originally Posted by Dasmoetorhead
My F3S has been at the dealership for the front end and handlebar shake since last Tuesday. They installed 2 new OE Tires, but that didn't help. They said they'd try another set. I'm tempted to order the new Vredestein and bring them to them to try, but I'm sure there'd be some kind of hassle with this approach. Just waiting for them to call back with further results. It's going to be raining for the next couple of days, so it's a good time for it to be in the shop.
The 2020+ RT's lost some fender room. You can still get the 175/55r15 in there. But they are a tight fit. The 165/60r15 gives you a bit more room. Important if you want to add fender lighting. Gives some clearance for wiring.
Kenda's are junk. But it may not be the tires. Did anything change between when your Spyder ran true and when the wobble began? A number of suspension components can create this issue.
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Originally Posted by BajaRon
The 2020+ RT's lost some fender room. You can still get the 175/55r15 in there. But they are a tight fit. The 165/60r15 gives you a bit more room. Important if you want to add fender lighting. Gives some clearance for wiring.
Kenda's are junk. But it may not be the tires. Did anything change between when your Spyder ran true and when the wobble began? A number of suspension components can create this issue.
It started on the way home from the dealership the day i picked it up.
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Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911
. if you get your Vredestein's ON-LINE, don't ask for any assistance or tell them it's for a Spyder ( ie. a motorcycle ) ... they probably will refuse to sell them to you ..... good luck .... Mike
When I bought my last set for the front from tire rack online, I got a call from their "technical center" to confirm that I was wanting the Quatrac's for my Spyder.
I confirmed the order and told them I was surprised to get the call as this tire is one of the most popular ones on our forum and that most people order it from them.
after I could hear the guy's head explode with a long sigh from him, he went on ahead and said they were sending them out. So they know about us in the technical center at tire rack now.
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Safety and Lighting: LED Headlight upgrade, IPS LED Fog lights, Show Chrome LED Fender Signals, LED Signature Light, Tric LED Afterburnerz, MotoHorn 2.0
Suspension: Wilbers Front and Rear Shocks, BajaRon Sway Bar, Vredestein Quatrac Front and Rear Tires
Comfort: Blue Ridge Windshield, Corbin Dual Touring Saddle, Ultimate Floorboards, OEM Passenger Backrest with Rear Shelf, OEM Passenger Floorboards Modified with High Risers from Pierre
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Originally Posted by CloverHillCrawler
When I bought my last set for the front from tire rack online, I got a call from their "technical center" to confirm that I was wanting the Quatrac's for my Spyder.
I confirmed the order and told them I was surprised to get the call as this tire is one of the most popular ones on our forum and that most people order it from them.
after I could hear the guy's head explode with a long sigh from him, he went on ahead and said they were sending them out. So they know about us in the technical center at tire rack now.
What you will never know is "did this guy get FIRED after the company discovered He sold you Auto tires 'KNOWING' that it's not legal to do so??!!" .....
"CHC", you've only been here a couple of years ..... but 10 years ago, "Discount Tires" began REFUSING to sell only ONE tire (the Kumho Ecsta 225/60-15) because they became aware that they were being put on SPYDER MOTORCYCLES ...... So some intelligent members here began inventing cars and claiming that's what the Kumho was going to be mounted on ...... Hopefully "Tire Rack" isn't NOW banning selling certain tires just thinking they may go on a MOTORCYCLE ..... Mike
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Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911
What you will never know is "did this guy get FIRED after the company discovered He sold you Auto tires 'KNOWING' that it's not legal to do so??!!" .....
"CHC", you've only been here a couple of years ..... but 10 years ago, "Discount Tires" began REFUSING to sell only ONE tire (the Kumho Ecsta 225/60-15) because they became aware that they were being put on SPYDER MOTORCYCLES ...... So some intelligent members here began inventing cars and claiming that's what the Kumho was going to be mounted on ...... Hopefully "Tire Rack" isn't NOW banning selling certain tires just thinking they may go on a MOTORCYCLE ..... Mike
I don't believe they are banning any tires. But I am surprised that Tire Rack sold a tire knowing it was going on a Spyder. Most of them know it's not a problem. But the suits have decided. And that's the end of it. I always get tires on line through the webpage only. You don't have to answer the question about what you are putting the tire(s) on. Only that you confirm that it matches the current tires since you are not purchasing 4. It will let you fly on through unmolested.
I've never had them call me.
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Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911
What you will never know is "did this guy get FIRED after the company discovered He sold you Auto tires 'KNOWING' that it's not legal to do so??!!" .....
"CHC", you've only been here a couple of years ..... but 10 years ago, "Discount Tires" began REFUSING to sell only ONE tire (the Kumho Ecsta 225/60-15) because they became aware that they were being put on SPYDER MOTORCYCLES ...... So some intelligent members here began inventing cars and claiming that's what the Kumho was going to be mounted on ...... Hopefully "Tire Rack" isn't NOW banning selling certain tires just thinking they may go on a MOTORCYCLE ..... Mike
OK. they are going on my Chevy Malibu ...NOT MY SPYDER ! GOT IT!
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2020 F3 SE6
Safety and Lighting: LED Headlight upgrade, IPS LED Fog lights, Show Chrome LED Fender Signals, LED Signature Light, Tric LED Afterburnerz, MotoHorn 2.0
Suspension: Wilbers Front and Rear Shocks, BajaRon Sway Bar, Vredestein Quatrac Front and Rear Tires
Comfort: Blue Ridge Windshield, Corbin Dual Touring Saddle, Ultimate Floorboards, OEM Passenger Backrest with Rear Shelf, OEM Passenger Floorboards Modified with High Risers from Pierre
Tackform Center Mount Phone Holder w/ rapid charging USB-C.
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Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911
I'm glad to hear you " understand about on-line Auto tire purchases " but not all members here do. So I added that reminder ..... Mike ..... Concerning those Kenda's you have ... if they can be balanced and there are no other manufacturing issues - I say just WEAR them out and get the Vredestein's .....Mike
Yes, if they can fix the shaking issue, I'll run the OE's until they need replacement, but in the meantime I'm ordering 3 tires for the F3S, and have them in my shop ready to go.
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Originally Posted by Dasmoetorhead
Yes, if they can fix the shaking issue, I'll run the OE's until they need replacement, but in the meantime I'm ordering 3 tires for the F3S, and have them in my shop ready to go.
I would say that will work for the REAR tire .... the Kenda might last 10 to 12,00 mi. ....however the front Kenda,s, if properly aligned & balanced, could give 24,000 mi .... Tires age and not in a good way .... just sayin .... Mike
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Just got it back from the shop. They went through 3 sets off tires before they could find 2 decent ones. On the ride home I'm still noticing a little shake in the handlebars, but all in all is good. Spent an hour cleaning off all the old wheel weight tape residual off the wheels Arrrrrr!
Cleaned the bike, and now I'm going to install the new Route 129 windscreen. Then a nice ride is in-store.
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Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911
What you will never know is "did this guy get FIRED after the company discovered He sold you Auto tires 'KNOWING' that it's not legal to do so??!!" .....
"CHC", you've only been here a couple of years ..... but 10 years ago, "Discount Tires" began REFUSING to sell only ONE tire (the Kumho Ecsta 225/60-15) because they became aware that they were being put on SPYDER MOTORCYCLES ...... So some intelligent members here began inventing cars and claiming that's what the Kumho was going to be mounted on ...... Hopefully "Tire Rack" isn't NOW banning selling certain tires just thinking they may go on a MOTORCYCLE ..... Mike
Mike ... one of the benefits of shopping local, at my independent tire shop; they know it's going on a Spyder and they will still order me a single. It may cost me a few $ more, but they can mount and balance the fronts and my local dealer will do the rear (one of the few in this area that will).
Plus ... it helps keep a small business going. I try to shop local when I can .... All the best ... Ann
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Last edited by BLUEKNIGHT911; 08-04-2023 at 10:36 PM.
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Sometimes Tire Rack doesn't have the 165/60R/15 QUATRAC's in stock, So if ya need to get off of the Kenda stuff ASAP The 175/55/15 Q's will work just fine.
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