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Does a brand-new bike burn oil during break in?
Brand new 2022 F3L delivered to me with 0.6 miles on it. Now I have 352 miles on it and, using BRP oil check procedures, am down about 1/2 - 3/4 of 1 qt. Owner's manual states to add 1 qt. of oil if below minimum on dipstick...I was just barely below the min mark. Is it typical for a brand new Spyder to be down some oil during the break in period? A person at the dealership who sold me bike says to take it in for diagnostics...really?
I have previously owned 5 other 2-wheeled bikes in my life and had to often times add less than a qt. of oil between maintenance, especially for mountain riding.
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Originally Posted by GWHIZZ
Brand new 2022 F3L delivered to me with 0.6 miles on it. Now I have 352 miles on it and, using BRP oil check procedures, am down about 1/2 - 3/4 of 1 qt. Owner's manual states to add 1 qt. of oil if below minimum on dipstick...I was just barely below the min mark. Is it typical for a brand new Spyder to be down some oil during the break in period? A person at the dealership who sold me bike says to take it in for diagnostics...really?
I have previously owned 5 other 2-wheeled bikes in my life and had to often times add less than a qt. of oil between maintenance, especially for mountain riding.
According to everyone who owns a Spyder and my own experience, the 1330 engine DOES NOT BURN OIL- PERIOD ..... Are you Absolutely SURE you're checking it according to the owner's manual? The engine MUST be up to operating temp (at least 3 yellow boxes on the Temp gauge) .... stop your Spyder and let it idle for 30 to 60 seconds. ....shut off the engine & check the dip stick .... I usually keep it a bit over the LOW FILL line ..... good luck .... Mike
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Originally Posted by ARtraveler
The 1330's are notorious for NOT burning any oil. It sounds to me that the dealer did the wrong oil level check when prepping the Spyder. It happens a lot. Re-check your oil (per the manual) top it off where it "should" be, and you should be good to go.
Make sure there are no oil leaks...that would indicate a problem.
I agree with you, and I think same. I am going to top it off and see if it happens again.
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Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911
According to everyone who owns a Spyder and my own experience, the 1330 engine DOES NOT BURN OIL- PERIOD ..... Are you Absolutely SURE you're checking it according to the owner's manual? The engine MUST be up to operating temp (at least 3 yellow boxes on the Temp gauge) .... stop your Spyder and let it idle for 30 to 60 seconds. ....shut off the engine & check the dip stick .... I usually keep it a bit over the LOW FILL line ..... good luck .... Mike
I am sure about the oil check procedure, as I have a 2018 that I still own, too. My dip showed oil just below minimum... owner's manual states to add 1 qt. The difference between min and max on the stick is 1 qt.
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Absolutely follow the owner's manual! Your dipstick is about 9-10" shorter than the distance to the actual oil level; there has to be some tray, cup, upper reservoir, or something that retains oil for a while. If you wait, it will drain, and you will show below the "min" on the stick.
I screwed up once, and had to drains some, not the funnest thing to do!
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clean oil is hard to read, use a paper towel, lay dip stick on it.
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 07-11-2023 at 04:26 PM.
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Originally Posted by spyderdave
Absolutely follow the owner's manual! Your dipstick is about 9-10" shorter than the distance to the actual oil level; there has to be some tray, cup, upper reservoir, or something that retains oil for a while. If you wait, it will drain, and you will show below the "min" on the stick.
I screwed up once, and had to drains some, not the funnest thing to do!
I check the oil correctly. I own a 2018 and know how to do this, however, NEVER did I own a brand new bike.
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Originally Posted by GWHIZZ
I check the oil correctly. I own a 2018 and know how to do this, however, NEVER did I own a brand new bike.
It's the same engine!!!!! ..... could the person who put yours together have screwed up the oil? ..... ABSOLUTELY! .... good luck .... Mike
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Always check your oil level after any oil service, including the 1st one. It is unfortunately common to get underfilled or overfilled service. I agree with the others here. If you are checking your oil level correctly (and it appears that you are), then it was underfilled by the dealership that prepped your machine. The 1330 does not burn oil, new or old. Fill and then check after a few hundred miles. I think you'll find it stays put. If you find it low again, you definitely have a problem that needs to be addressed.
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Originally Posted by GWHIZZ
what do you mean by screwed it up? I do believe they maybe shorted it a bit.
Not putting the correct amount of oil in the engine/trans. .... to me that's " screwing up " the job ..... Mike
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If you don't have any leaks that you can see, just ride it now that you have got the oil level where you want it and keep a eye on it for a while! You will find that they didn't set your bike up the way they should have, but they didn't do any harm to your new child. Don't flip out and don't jump to conclusions that may not be true, besides you have a warranty with that ride and a spare in the barn! Get some miles on that thing you lucky dog!!!!
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Owned my 2019 F3-S since it was taken out of the crate and put together. Took it home on a trailer and double checked everything the dealer did to it. Adjusted all the fluid levels and checked all the fasteners. It has never used a drop of oil that is even measurable with the dipstick, in all the time I have had it. Didn't use any oil when it was new, and doesn't use any oil now. Everything is done according to the service manual, except for the oil changes, which are done every 5,000 miles, no matter what the manuals or Can Am says.
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Originally Posted by Gwolf
Owned my 2019 F3-S since it was taken out of the crate and put together. Took it home on a trailer and double checked everything the dealer did to it. Adjusted all the fluid levels and checked all the fasteners. It has never used a drop of oil that is even measurable with the dipstick, in all the time I have had it. Didn't use any oil when it was new, and doesn't use any oil now. Everything is done according to the service manual, except for the oil changes, which are done every 5,000 miles, no matter what the manuals or Can Am says.
Not a bad idea if you are using BRP blended oil. It consistently shears down to 20w viscosity between 4,500 miles & 5,000 miles. I think this is why the original service interval for the Spyder was 4,500 miles. People complained about the 'Short' service mileage and magically, without changing the quality of the oil, the service interval went to 9,300 miles.
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Originally Posted by BajaRon
Not a bad idea if you are using BRP blended oil. It consistently shears down to 20w viscosity between 4,500 miles & 5,000 miles. I think this is why the original service interval for the Spyder was 4,500 miles. People complained about the 'Short' service mileage and magically, without changing the quality of the oil, the service interval went to 9,300 miles.
I don't use the BRP oil. I use Lucas full synthetic for motorcycles with wet clutches. I still change it every 5,000 miles just like I have done for many years on various brands and sizes of bikes.
I do believe the modern bikes are built to closer tolerances, and I believe the water cooled bikes could stand to go a little farther between changes than the old air cooled engines. I don't believe the factory Alchemists when they say you can go almost 10,000 miles on the same oil.
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