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If BRP opened the protocol's and API's needed to communicate with the bike I'm sure independent developers could do a much better job.
But of course BRP won't do that cause it makes too much sense.
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Originally Posted by Trbayth
If BRP opened the protocol's and API's needed to communicate with the bike I'm sure independent developers could do a much better job.
But of course BRP won't do that cause it makes too much sense.
You might want to read all the other posts as it’s mentioned that BRP didn’t create the software/firmware. It was an independent developer. The “protocols” are the same for any smartphone integration system. Motorcycle or car.
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Originally Posted by shardt
BRP Go is not made by BRP but a software company that makes these connect products for other motorcycles as well. BRP does not have anything to do with the way the apps work on the bike but rather the application developers that do the interfacing with BRP Go. Other issues are related how the smart phones work. If you do some research, you will see that most bike manufactures are plagued with the same type of issues.
1. You only need BRP Go if you display the apps in the dash; music only, you just need to be connected via Bluetooth.
2. Make sure your dash has the latest firmware and you have the latest BRP Go app.
3. BRP Go app has to be allowed to be on top or the active app all the time.
4. Your phones lock screen cannot be active while using BRP Go, so set your phone to not lock while plugged in to power.
5. Make sure to go in to the battery manager and set BRP Go and the apps you use with it to never sleep.
6. Your USB port on the phone needs to be set to do data, normally default setting.
7. The USB cable between the phone and bike has to be a data cable.
8. To use BRP Go both the USB cable needs to be connected and Bluetooth connected.
9. If you turn off the bike, be sure to unlock your phone when you start the bike so BRP Go can reconnect to the bike.
I have a hard enough time remember it's underwear first then pants.
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Originally Posted by SLICE
I have a hard enough time remember it's underwear first then pants.
Do you mean that I'm supposed to wear underwear?
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Originally Posted by Trbayth
If BRP opened the protocol's and API's needed to communicate with the bike I'm sure independent developers could do a much better job.
But of course BRP won't do that cause it makes too much sense.
precisely, technically and logically.
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Originally Posted by Flamewinger
You might want to read all the other posts as it’s mentioned that BRP didn’t create the software/firmware. It was an independent developer. The “protocols” are the same for any smartphone integration system. Motorcycle or car.
I disagree. BRP GO is an in house developed piece of garbage. Other manufactures have successfully implemented the industry standards Android Auto and Apple Car Play and they work very well indeed. Across many makes. Harley for one went this route as have most auto manufactures. BRP could have as well, they just refused to admit that Google and Apple are better at UI design than they are and forced this crappy system on us instead.
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It is my understanding that Bosch Global is the designer of BRP Go and also MySpin which is used in high end European cars. (Range Rover)
Triumph has https://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/m...ctivity-system
BMW has https://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/en/en...s-how-it-works
Yes Honda and Harley as well as Indian have ACP but they’re all the same and require very similar setups to make it work. They allow certain apps to work when operation the bike.
https://www.rever.co/press-releases/...er-powersports
I’m not an engineer or ever worked in IT. Never got into computers other than to use them for work and home. I make a point of learning all I can about any device I use whether at home, in my car or on my Spyder. I found this BRP Connect system to be a bit glitchy at first but with the new BRP Go, it’s easy peasy.
I find it difficult to understand how anyone that is a computer expert would have any problems getting this to work. It’s really not that hard to figure out.
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Originally Posted by rustin921
I'm NOT going to get a I Phone, when there are items called Android Auto and Apple Car Play.
Rant concluded
What makes you think this will work with an iPhone? I tried to use it when I got my 2020 RT-L and quickly gave up because it was so terrible in every respect. Just attach your phone to your Spyder and use that. This is something that never should have been released.
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That's what I did, wrestling with BRP Go is not in my book of patience.
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Originally Posted by askitee
When I look back at the things BRP still don't get right from an engineering perspective, [*]A clock that cant keep time. I've seen a potato powered clock keep better time.
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~~~~WIS here (Watch Idiot Savant). I’m obsessed with automatic watches. Never cared for quartz. Current wrister Im having a love/hate relationship with is a Black Bay Heritage, its COSC cept better as Tudor aimed for -2+4. When I bought it last September, it actually kept perfect time for 3 weeks then would lose a second, that was up until a few weeks ago when either i dropped it or came in contact with some heavy magnetism. I’ll prolly send it to a watchmaker I know and let him dial it back in, see if I cant keep it that way…
In regards to the clock on our Spyders, I’ve never set mine up, nor do I look at it. If you want to know what time it is, look at your smartphone, they’re coordinated with the atomic clocks. The current Spyder clocks will never be. Yeah so if I’m riding my Spyder and don’t want to be bothered checking my wristwatch, then I’ll make sure my phone is on in the cradle attached to the handlebar before shoving off
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Originally Posted by bikerbillone
That's what I did, wrestling with BRP Go is not in my book of patience.
Then you’ll never have smartphone integration. Whether ACP, BMW or Triumph’s TFT system or HD Connect, it all requires setting it up first before using it which is just as easy or complicated as BRP Connect.
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Originally Posted by shakin_jake
In regards to the clock on our Spyders, I’ve never set mine up, nor do I look at it. If you want to know what time it is, look at your smartphone, they’re coordinated with the atomic clocks. The current Spyder clocks will never be. Yeah so if I’m riding my Spyder and don’t want to be bothered checking my wristwatch, then I’ll make sure my phone is on in the cradle attached to the handlebar before shoving off
Best,
Jake
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Not sure what weird Watch problems are like but as for the newer Spyder models, the clocks are very accurate and that all I do is change it for daylight savings.
Basically those that complain about how complicated the BRP system is are just not capable of figuring out how new technology works and like to use what they’ve taken years to learn.
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Originally Posted by Flamewinger
Not sure what weird Watch problems are like but as for the newer Spyder models, the clocks are very accurate and that all I do is change it for daylight savings......
~~~Just guessing but I would imagine (from what you’ve said), when you have your smartphone connected to BRP GO or whatever the proprietary onboard electronic wizardry is called, perhaps the clock function on the dash is being run through your smartphone, then it's coordinated with the atomic clocks
Originally Posted by Flamewinger
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Basically those that complain about how complicated the BRP system is are just not capable of figuring out how new technology works and like to use what they’ve taken years to learn.
~~~I’ll be the first to admit i know nothing about how any of the Spyder’s BRP system works. I’m a Luddite and incapable of using it. If we lived closer to one another I’d be glad to buy you a very nice meal in exchange to have you show me enough of how to use the Spyder’s electronic tech.
Best,
Jake
Reddick Fla.
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Just my $0.02 worth. I agree.....BRP is not perfect, but then again neither is GM. My chevy malibu does NOT keep perfect time, the AM radio does NOT extend that far. My sirius/xm radio loses signal a lot....I can see the sky, why can’t it see me? My point is NO Mfr. is perfect...they all have problems, they all have their own idiosyncrasies, so live with it, or get rid of the unit and get YOUR perfect unit (good luck with that). Myself, I love my RTS....yes there are things they could have done differently, but for the most part I can resolve the problems myself with the purchase of FARKLES (including but not limited to sway bar, auto tires, more lighting, etc).
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Originally Posted by shakin_jake
~~~Just guessing but I would imagine (from what you’ve said), when you have your smartphone connected to BRP GO or whatever the proprietary onboard electronic wizardry is called, perhaps the clock function on the dash is being run through your smartphone, then it's coordinated with the atomic clocks
Best,
Jake
Reddick Fla.
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No, as a matter of fact the dash clock is not from the phone. The dash firmware uses the Bluetooth connection to make/receive phone calls and uses the BRP Go app to allow certain apps to show and work in the dash. The phone doesn’t provide any other info.
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Originally Posted by rustin921
I just purchased an 2020 Spyder rt Limited, and wanted toi connect to the BRP app and display stuff on the Dash.
Well, to my surprise, an Android does not work, I get USB Malfunction, so I tried my wife's I Phone it connected.
I'm NOT going to get a I Phone, when there are items called Android Auto and Apple Car Play.
Rant concluded
the Can-Am Spyder all have Apple electronics ...well....at least mine does, and I was told they all do. and ( Steve Jobs ) Apple don't mix .
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Originally Posted by sledge
the Can-Am Spyder all have Apple electronics ...well....at least mine does, and I was told they all do. and ( Steve Jobs ) Apple don't mix .
BRP GO works great with android
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Originally Posted by Flamewinger
You might want to read all the other posts as it’s mentioned that BRP didn’t create the software/firmware. It was an independent developer. The “protocols” are the same for any smartphone integration system. Motorcycle or car.
It doesn't matter whom developed it, BRP put their name on it; a company doesn't develop anything without people. It was release without any sort of quality control to validate performance. It came as an undocumented, unsupported software program, with out any dealer being able to support it. Don't even try to integrate a helmet headset into the equation as someone has determined what can and cannot be done with the helmet audio. Stop implying people they are too stupid to run it and to suck it up because it's here to stay.
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Originally Posted by pauly1
It doesn't matter whom developed it, BRP put their name on it; a company doesn't develop anything without people. It was release without any sort of quality control to validate performance. It came as an undocumented, unsupported software program, with out any dealer being able to support it. Don't even try to integrate a helmet headset into the equation as someone has determined what can and cannot be done with the helmet audio. Stop implying people they are too stupid to run it and to suck it up because it's here to stay.
And you think the other motorcycle makers produced a better system?? You might want to read their forums as there are just as many complaints about what they have as we do. Many Goldwing owners still use a Garmin for the same reasons many Spyders owners are. They are not up to the latest tech and don’t know how it works!
I have had no problems connecting Uclear, Sena and Cardo headset with no issues because it’s the same process as any Bluetooth pairing.
Whether Apple Car Play, Android Auto, BRP Connect, HD Connect, BMW or Triumph’s TFT systems - They all require almost the same setup and produce the same or similar user interface. Currently, I don’t see a difference between ACP and BRP Go.
Many say they are engineers or electrical computer specialists or work in IT and can’t figure this simple system. I have no tech training or engineering degree yet I found it easy to figure out. Mostly, what I read are excuses.
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I agree that few products are perfect or problem free, but they released this and made a big about deal about it, yet it really doesn't work in any reasonable way. CarPlay would have been an infinitely better option, or just leave well enough alone and don't add functionality that doesn't function. It makes no difference if they outsourced the work.
Other than that, my 2020 RT-L is an amazing machine, and it does work to just ignore that functionality and connect my phone to helmet directly. I'm grateful for that option.
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Baja Ron Anti-Sway Bar, LED reflectors, Lamonster USB Charger (and phone mount), Can-Am Low Windshield, X-Creen Tour Variable Windscreen Spoiler Blade, Power Commander, Dilithium powered Flux Capacitor (not yet fully functional).
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Originally Posted by Flamewinger
And you think the other motorcycle makers produced a better system?? You might want to read their forums as there are just as many complaints about what they have as we do. Many Goldwing owners still use a Garmin for the same reasons many Spyders owners are. They are not up to the latest tech and don’t know how it works!
I have had no problems connecting Uclear, Sena and Cardo headset with no issues because it’s the same process as any Bluetooth pairing.
Whether Apple Car Play, Android Auto, BRP Connect, HD Connect, BMW or Triumph’s TFT systems - They all require almost the same setup and produce the same or similar user interface. Currently, I don’t see a difference between ACP and BRP Go.
Many say they are engineers or electrical computer specialists or work in IT and can’t figure this simple system. I have no tech training or engineering degree yet I found it easy to figure out. Mostly, what I read are excuses.
You've provide no useful information other than to say you are smarter than us. The system came without documentation and absolutely zero dealer support. If there is no complete documentation on what it was designed to do, all you've done is adapt to what you discovered its limited functionality is.
Here's one that came with complete documentation: https://serviceinfo.harley-davidson....79076430222675
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I bought the Garmin Zumo for my F3Limited. It is perfect for GPS, headset connect, and my Samsung Android. Harley, Honda and others have integrated larger displays. I wonder if Garmin would be an option for BRP to work with going forward. Replace the clunky interface with one larger touch screen interface and hop skip the competition with user friendly interface. BRP could integrate it into their Seadoos, and off road vehicles. BRP connect needs to be GONE.
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It took me a while to get the "original" BRP Connect to work well. When it was finally working, they switched to BRP Go. It does seem to have some benefits, but it is so hit and miss. It disconnects anytime I answer a phone call. Sometimes (often) it just stops responding after it is connected. Since it's in the front "glove" box its not like you can grab it to reconnect. Very frustrating. I have a 2021 RT Limited
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Originally Posted by shakin_jake
~~~~WIS here (Watch Idiot Savant). I’m obsessed with automatic watches. Never cared for quartz. Current wrister Im having a love/hate relationship with is a Black Bay Heritage, its COSC cept better as Tudor aimed for -2+4. When I bought it last September, it actually kept perfect time for 3 weeks then would lose a second, that was up until a few weeks ago when either i dropped it or came in contact with some heavy magnetism. I’ll prolly send it to a watchmaker I know and let him dial it back in, see if I cant keep it that way…
In regards to the clock on our Spyders, I’ve never set mine up, nor do I look at it. If you want to know what time it is, look at your smartphone, they’re coordinated with the atomic clocks. The current Spyder clocks will never be. Yeah so if I’m riding my Spyder and don’t want to be bothered checking my wristwatch, then I’ll make sure my phone is on in the cradle attached to the handlebar before shoving off
Best,
Jake
Reddick Fla.
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My smart phone goes in the Topbox
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