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Shell Rotella T6 Out of Stock! Any available? Any Alternatives?
I have always use Rotella F6 5W-40 in my Spyders and recently went out to purchase a couple of gallons to do a needed oil change in my 21 RTL. I went to 4 Walmart's that were all out of stock. Then I went to every auto parts store in the Myrtle Beach SC area who either did not carry Rotella F6 or were out of stock. Well, there is always good ole Amazon.....Wrong! They told me they were "temporarily" out of stock and gave me a February "tentative" ship date. Not sure what's going on at Shell. So, I have 2 questions..... 1. Is anyone else having this availability issue with Rotella and 2. Recommendations for an equal substitute? Thanks for your input guys.
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Spend a bit more on either Amsoil 10w40 m/c or Mobile 1 10w40 4T and you'll be even better off However, if you insist on staying at 5w40, this might be a considered option .. https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-Power...s%2C132&sr=8-2
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FWIW, in analysis of each oil change since I started doing them after the 3K service I found that the Mobil1 4T sheared down much faster at shorter change interval than the Amsoil Metric 10W-40 which has not gone below 30 at the full 9,300 distance. Pandemic has me doing it annually vice 9,300 for second year in a row.
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Thanks Troop. Shop manual calls for a 5w-40 so it looks like the Castrol Power1 5W-40 will be my choice. It has the Jaso MA2 and exceeds the SL rating I'm looking for. Got 1 day free shipping from the big "A", so I'll change her in a couple of days.
Thank you Jay, for your response also.
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Originally Posted by Valkrocket
Thanks Troop. Shop manual calls for a 5w-40 so it looks like the Castrol Power1 5W-40 will be my choice. It has the Jaso MA2 and exceeds the SL rating I'm looking for. Got 1 day free shipping from the big "A", so I'll change her in a couple of days.
Thank you Jay, for your response also.
Shop manual calls for what Can-Am sells, not necessarily what is the best viscosity for your Spyder. BRP used to make a myriad of lubricants. Each tailored to the vehicle. Several years ago they cut their offerings down to 2. Which have to cover everything from snowmobiles to off road and on road vehicles. Snowmobiles require a very thin start up oil (the lower number of the 2). You can't compromise on that at sub-zero temperature startups.
Spyders rarely see a sub-zero start-up temperature (the temperature of the oil). Simply put, a 5/40 oil will work OK. But it isn't the best viscosity for our Spyders. A Spyder just doesn't need that light weight oil.
When BRP sold a 10-40 weight oil, they recommended that for the Spyder.
The wider the spread between the 2 numbers, the less stable the lubricant is. This is why you can expect a 5/40 oil to break down sooner than a 10/40. This is a universal fact. When taken all together. A 10/40 oil is a better fit for the Spyder than what BRP recommends. The engineers don't have the last say, as many imagine.
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Originally Posted by JayBros
FWIW, in analysis of each oil change since I started doing them after the 3K service I found that the Mobil1 4T sheared down much faster at shorter change interval than the Amsoil Metric 10W-40 which has not gone below 30 at the full 9,300 distance. Pandemic has me doing it annually vice 9,300 for second year in a row.
I've seen it both ways, with Amz actually shearing down a bit quicker than the 10w40 4T in some analysis. . Either way, both will work, and both will shear much less than the Rotella 5w40. It's officially become an oil thread
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Originally Posted by troop
I've seen it both ways, with Amz actually shearing down a bit quicker than the 10w40 4T in some analysis. . Either way, both will work, and both will be better than the Rotella 5w40.
What is your bases for stating that the Rotella T6 5w40 is not as good?
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Originally Posted by PW2013STL
What is your bases for stating that the Rotella T6 5w40 is not as good?
My basis is from the oil analysis' I've read on the motorcycle forum at Bob Is The Oil Guy. The majority consensus from those who used it, and had it analyzed, is that the Rotella T6 5w40 oil shears down in weight considerably after a few thousand miles. Does it work fine in the 1330cc motor? Sure, probably never any issues. It just becomes an upper 20w/low 30w oil after a few thousand miles. Lots of reading here when you search for it .. https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/fo...lubrication.9/
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Some Auto Part store carry the Shell Rotella T6 oil, if not order it from Amazon!
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Originally Posted by south GA Farm Boy
Some Auto Part store carry the Shell Rotella T6 oil, if not order it from Amazon!
Must be a typo in the OP. He says F6 but that seems to be non-existent so he must have meant T6. The T6 is what he is saying is out of stock at parts stores and Amazon.
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I stock up on oil when it"s on sale. That way I don't get caught short. Right now there doesn't seem to be any T6 on our Wal mart shelves in Utah either.
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I just a moment ago did a quick Google search.
One topic, a Dodge Ram site indicated that this shortage has been mildly long term, indicating his order in October was cancelled due to Shell not being able to supply the oil. The person posted that the company he was trying to purchase from had a back order of 750 Gallons from Shell.
In another topic, it was mentioned that Shell is discontinuing some of its Rotella products. Did not see T6 mentioned, but may be worth an inquiry to Shell.
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It has been in short supply for MONTHS. But Amazon got a big shipment Monday and fulfilled my order for delivery Friday. They sold out again in just a few hours but they have more coming in. It will take a bit of time for Shell to refill the supply chain but its good to know its showing up again. A few folks on Facebook groups have also reported sightings at wal mart here and there the last week or so.
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Originally Posted by Valkrocket
I have always use Rotella F6 5W-40 in my Spyders and recently went out to purchase a couple of gallons to do a needed oil change in my 21 RTL. I went to 4 Walmart's that were all out of stock. Then I went to every auto parts store in the Myrtle Beach SC area who either did not carry Rotella F6 or were out of stock. Well, there is always good ole Amazon.....Wrong! They told me they were "temporarily" out of stock and gave me a February "tentative" ship date. Not sure what's going on at Shell. So, I have 2 questions..... 1. Is anyone else having this availability issue with Rotella and 2. Recommendations for an equal substitute? Thanks for your input guys.
Back in stock for T6 at Amazon, 1 Gallon bottles, pack of 3.
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Thanks for your discussion, is the Shell Rotella T6 5W-40 that everyone raves about the dark blue bottle that is indicated for Diesel engines? Thank you.
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Originally Posted by fraugher
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Thank you EdMat, excellent. Could you tell me why I should use 10W40 instead of 5W40, or why one brand is better than the other?? Haha, that's just a joke. Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder
Must be a typo in the OP. He says F6 but that seems to be non-existent so he must have meant T6. The T6 is what he is saying is out of stock at parts stores and Amazon.
I changed the information in the thread title to T6.
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Originally Posted by fraugher
Thank you EdMat, excellent. Could you tell me why I should use 10W40 instead of 5W40, or why one brand is better than the other?? Haha, that's just a joke. Thanks again.
Actually I use the 15W40 version, but then our average temperature is a lot higher than yours.
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