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Well said Ron. Was wondering if you can clear something up for me? Which type of trans does the Ryker have ? As on my 2011 RT 5 speed or 2014 RT 6 speed ? I hated keeping up with revs and tacs much less the fuel mileage on the 5 speed.
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The one main factor for not very good mileage with the Ryker
and the Spyders is the Rotax engine.
It develops it max horse power at high rpm and that is where
it runs best and gets it best mileage. Lugging this engine
at low rpm and the mileage will suffer even more.
The Rotax and the auto trans in the Ryker were made for each other.
Even though its not the most fuel efficient engine it is a proven
bullet proof design for its small size that will take a beating.
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I ryde it, take care of it, and enjoy it. My last mileage reading nearly 35mpg. cueman
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Originally Posted by leenanj
Even though its not the most fuel efficient engine it is a proven
bullet proof design for its small size that will take a beating.
Only time will tell if this notion is indeed correct.
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Originally Posted by NU2Spyder
Well said Ron. Was wondering if you can clear something up for me? Which type of trans does the Ryker have ? As on my 2011 RT 5 speed or 2014 RT 6 speed ? I hated keeping up with revs and tacs much less the fuel mileage on the 5 speed.
It's a CVT, twist the throttle and go. No shifting.
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Originally Posted by Aufgeblassen47
Only time will tell if this notion is indeed correct.
He may have been talking about the similar motors used in the snow machine and ATVs. They seem to be able to take a licking and keep on ticking. cueman
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Originally Posted by Aufgeblassen47
Only time will tell if this notion is indeed correct.
Hardly a notion, the Rotax engine has been around since the 1920's.
Used in autos, aircraft, quads, snowmobiles, motorcycles, you name it.
One tough little engine that like to rev and work hard.
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Originally Posted by Highwayman2013
It's a CVT, twist the throttle and go. No shifting.
But they run at rediculously high RPMs at any speed!!!
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Hey guys - Since CVT drives are new to a lot of bike riders, here's a fairly descriptive video on a CVT drive.
While this differs from the BRP clutch, it shows the same working principles. While these clutches are simple in operation, on motorcycles they have always been prone to problems. Unlike a gear box transmission, the CVT drive require maintenance on a mileage schedule.
Enjoy- Mike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHWqlfDZnmQ
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I admit that I was surprised to find out BRP used the same final drive ratio on the 600 and 900 CC models. On all of my other shaft-drive bikes (BMW) the smaller motor models used a higher final drive ratio (higher RPM at a given speed) than the same model with the larger motors. The ROTAX engine produces a relatively flat torque curve and would operate more fuel efficiently at 1,500 RPM's lower at highway speed.
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I have been riding snowmobiles with the same clutch(es) found on the Ryker for about 30 yrs. They have been trouble free, dare I say bullet proof under some very harsh weather and riding conditions. Only maintenance required is a belt change and quick cleaning. That can be done in 5 minutes on a sled. It will take a bit longer on a Ryker because of housing covering that area. This type of CVT drive system has been used since the 60's that I know of on all types of recreational vehicles. My experience started in the 80's with them. Sleds, quads, sxs, etc from a number of manufactures, not just BRP use this set-up in outside air temperatures from -40 to over 100 degrees on vehicles that travel through, water, mud, dirt, snow, ice. It's very rare users of these vehicles say, I blew my clutch. The entire clutch system has very few parts and even fewer moving parts. They are used in the powersports business specifically because they are known to be reliable, effective, easy to service and cheap. I think they have proven their reliability over the years.
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Originally Posted by Rob Rodriguez
I have been riding snowmobiles with the same clutch(es) found on the Ryker for about 30 yrs. They have been trouble free, dare I say bullet proof under some very harsh weather and riding conditions. Only maintenance required is a belt change and quick cleaning. That can be done in 5 minutes on a sled. It will take a bit longer on a Ryker because of housing covering that area. This type of CVT drive system has been used since the 60's that I know of on all types of recreational vehicles. My experience started in the 80's with them. Sleds, quads, sxs, etc from a number of manufactures, not just BRP use this set-up in outside air temperatures from -40 to over 100 degrees on vehicles that travel through, water, mud, dirt, snow, ice. It's very rare users of these vehicles say, I blew my clutch. The entire clutch system has very few parts and even fewer moving parts. They are used in the powersports business specifically because they are known to be reliable, effective, easy to service and cheap. I think they have proven their reliability over the years.
I agree, the clutch system is nearly bulletproof.
They take much more abuse in an off-road machine than it will ever see in the Ryker.
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129.1 miles today, 33.4 mpg.
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My wife reports being comfortable on the rear seat. We have the passenger comfort seat with the high folding backrest.
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Originally Posted by Jsmith8695
My wife reports being comfortable on the rear seat. We have the passenger comfort seat with the high folding backrest.
My wife absolutely hates it with the same seat and backrest. I will admit the Ryker seems a little tippy riding 2 up
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Originally Posted by KC61
My wife absolutely hates it with the same seat and backrest. I will admit the Ryker seems a little tippy riding 2 up
I have the Rally and ride 2 up quite often and have never felt tippy. Do you have the Rally version?
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Rally with no tipping feeling. cueman
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If you want good mpg then buy a Honda PCX-150 I had 2 of them that my wife and I used to ride 110+ mpg over 200 miles on a 2.1 gallon tank and they would run out to the limiter at 73 mph
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Almost 1700 miles on my 900 ace and I get 31-36 mpg in sport mode. I do have a heavy hand and considering that I’m totally happy with that mileage.
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now you made me thinking about putting jetta engine on my spyder.
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Originally Posted by jerpinoy
now you made me thinking about putting jetta engine on my spyder.
I don't think you can do that now. Weren't they the ones that were programmed to override the EPA standards, and VW got dinged for it?
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MY FINAL TALLY: 7 Spyders, 15 years, 205,500 miles
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Originally Posted by ARtraveler
I don't think you can do that now. Weren't they the ones that were programmed to override the EPA standards, and VW got dinged for it?
My new VW was bought from a VW Dealership (that got it directly from VW). It is immaculate inside and out, had only one owner, is a 2012 Touareg TDI Sport with 80K miles that was never exposed to road salt (judging by CarFax) for only $15,800.
BTW: It was bought back by VW a full two years ago and was in storage until they came up with "the fix", so effectively it was like buying a 2014. The funny thing is, after driving 250 miles, the check engine light came on, and when I read the code, it said it is putting out too much NOX!!! Perhaps their "fix" could only last temporarily, long enough to pass EPA???
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