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Self driving autos in FL!
Motorcycle riders be aware in FL! Will these autos recognize motorcycles on the roads? Let the lawsuits begin?
https://www.technocracy.news/florida...driving-autos/
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might actually be safer at least they will use turn signals and lights when it rains
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Will they be programmed to sit at the stop light after it turns green and keep sending text messages like a human can do?
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I agree that they may be safer. There are way too many unskilled and inattentive drivers on the road. To quote Monk, "It's a jungle out there"..... Jim
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Hi canamjhb,
Re: There are way too many unskilled and inattentive drivers on the road.
50% of all drivers have driving skills that are below average.
Jerry Baumchen
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I would rather have the av's then the illegals now getting driver's license in ny. i'm sure the av's will at least be insured.
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Originally Posted by fatboy
might actually be safer at least they will use turn signals and lights when it rains
At over a half billion miles logged in the USA, AVs already been proven to be safer than human drivers per million miles driven. Vehicles are being tested in multiple cities that don't even have a driver's seat or a steering wheel. As AVs get even better, insurance is going to sky rocket for the human driver. At least we will be able to drink and ride!
Regards,
Don
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Originally Posted by dondje
At over a half billion miles logged in the USA, AVs already been proven to be safer than human drivers per million miles driven. Vehicles are being tested in multiple cities that don't even have a driver's seat or a steering wheel. As AVs get even better, insurance is going to sky rocket for the human driver. At least we will be able to drink and ride!
Regards,
Don
Actually with the couple deaths in the last year or so this 'law of averages' is no longer true. Human drivers have a MUCH safer record at the moment.
I predict injury claims (intentional and not) will force the hands of the self insured companies operating the AVs. The public 'KNOWS' that any incident involving one is the fault of the AV and the owner and company liable for its actions has very deep pockets. The only group that will make profits from this is the lawyers.
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I'll be waiting for the first autonomous vehicle to show up at my Office, and want to buy insurance...
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Ah Well.....
Maybe they should start with zones where only they can drive around. Like Europe where there are cities where they don't allow non local licenced drivers to enter. Park outside and use public transport within....
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That's not a bad idea...
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We already have "self driving" cars in Florida.
They are the ones with 90+ year old drivers passed out behind the wheel.
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Hi Easy,
Re: 90+ year old drivers passed out behind the wheel.
According to the segment I watched on the national news the other night, it is NOT old folks passed out behind the wheel.
Jerry Baumchen
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Originally Posted by jcthorne
Actually with the couple deaths in the last year or so this 'law of averages' is no longer true. Human drivers have a MUCH safer record at the moment.
That is not true. All deaths and injuries world wide have been taken into account for the current statistics. AV are running about 3x safer for deaths per millions of miles driven than human driven.
The nice thing about AV is that the accident can be analyzed and programming can be updated on other vehicles so that the odds of the same mistake happening again is drastically reduced. Doesn't really happen with humans.
Insurance companies are soon going to be charging way more for human drivers than AV. Human drivers will be assumed to be at fault as more and more info is produced by the AV systems as they communicate with each other going down the road. Humans are fast becoming the weak link.
Regards,
Don
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How about a self driving Spyder?
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"Humans are fast becoming the weak link."
So: are you ready to volunteer to become Soylent Green?
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I recently read that the current AI systems only recognized pedestrians less than 40% of the time and that includes bicyclists. So don't let them blow smoke in your face. Also. I just found out that AI doesn't know location like we do. They are not aware of things like shopping areas, schools etc. So they can keep their smart vehicles. I'm not buying. BTW how does it know lanes when the paint is covered by snow? They also expect that we will behave in
a certain fashion. Drive Cali freeways sometime and watch for unpredictable behavior. Their brains are digital, we have analog brains. I rest my case.
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Originally Posted by JerryB
Hi Easy,
Re: 90+ year old drivers passed out behind the wheel.
According to the segment I watched on the national news the other night, it is NOT old folks passed out behind the wheel.
Jerry Baumchen
HUH ?? What isn't what ???
(It was a JOKE......mostly.)
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BOB,
" So: are you ready to volunteer to become Soylent Green?"
A blast from the past!!!! Plenty of folks here won't get it though. My dad was the spitin' image of Edward G. Robinson.
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Originally Posted by azprince
I recently read that the current AI systems only recognized pedestrians less than 40% of the time and that includes bicyclists. So don't let them blow smoke in your face. Also. I just found out that AI doesn't know location like we do. They are not aware of things like shopping areas, schools etc. So they can keep their smart vehicles. I'm not buying. BTW how does it know lanes when the paint is covered by snow? They also expect that we will behave in
a certain fashion. Drive Cali freeways sometime and watch for unpredictable behavior. Their brains are digital, we have analog brains. I rest my case.
Admittedly most of the trials are in the south, so snow is not an issue yet. With 5G communication, snow won't be an issue in any city unless the vehicle is out of its element. Cheap transmitters are coming to every intersection, in every city. All AI vehicles are also going to talk with each other in real time. Non-AI vehicles are soon going to be required to have a communication device attached to their ODB port so that AI vehicles can track them and even control their speed, braking etc.
Right now there are driverless, steering wheelless, no driver seat, AI vehicles traveling the streets of a few major cities everyday. New cities are getting in line to be testing sights. There are also a few hundred long haul AI trucks on the road everyday (with backup drivers). Their brains are digital and they are programed to drive safely; not text, answer phones, eat, drink, sleep, exhibit road rage, break traffic laws, DUI, etc. When was the last time you heard of a human beating a digital brain at chess?
The cost of insurance and cities restrictive laws against human drivers will be what forces us into AI. Human transport will have to park at the edge of the city and move to AI to get around from there. People can stick their head in the sand if they want. Perhaps some may still have some phone booth manufacturer stock. Just know that AI is coming and its coming fast.
Regards,
Don
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25 years ago Popular Science Mag said we would all have flying cars in 10 years. I didn't get mine and I want it.
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Originally Posted by Gwolf
25 years ago Popular Science Mag said we would all have flying cars in 10 years. I didn't get mine and I want it.
They have been available the whole time and evolving. Most just failed to buy them as they have been very expensive to buy and operate. Closer now than ever before to being affordable, and they are electric. AV and remote control drones are currently filling taxi and delivery roles, in a few markets. More to quickly come.
Regards,
Don
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