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Downshifting Into 1st Gear With an SE
Hi,
I'm on the fence about this.... Should I be manually downshifting into 1st gear. Can this hurt the transmission.
Thanks in advance.
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Personal choice
Whatever you feel like doing, you won't hurt the gearbox. Unless of course you start abusing the downshifting at too high a speed for the proper gear.
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been doing it for over 7000 miles. saving my brakes.
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Originally Posted by Brentc
..... Unless of course you start abusing the downshifting at too high a speed for the proper gear.
If you are travelling too fast or would cause revving outside the 'safe parameters' for the lower gear, the computer won't let you downshift anyway, so you won't hurt anything!
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Cool, I learned something new today
Originally Posted by Peter Aawen
If you are travelling too fast or would cause revving outside the 'safe parameters' for the lower gear, the computer won't let you downshift anyway, so you won't hurt anything!
Thanks Peter! Now I can take the rest of the day off.
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I down shift manually in ever gear! And as stated above, you will not do any damage to the transmission.
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That's the beauty of the "ESSIES": they make it easier for you; but it's always your choice!
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In my opinion. The only reason to let your Spyder auto downshift is because you are too busy or lazy to do it yourself. The auto downshift function is set up as a backstop function on the SE5. It is set to downshift at 2,000 rpm. That is the clutch engagement speed. As was said above. It will not let you manually downshift if the revs are too high.
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Originally Posted by Crisis
Hi,
I'm on the fence about this.... Should I be manually downshifting into 1st gear. Can this hurt the transmission.
Thanks in advance.
Sometimes i do, sometimes i don't. I don't really think it matters or harms anything.
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Originally Posted by billybovine
The auto downshift function is set up as a backstop function on the SE5. It is set to downshift at 2,000 rpm.
Backstop function??????????????????? I choose to disagree! I see it as a primary function of the SE system!
I don't worry about saving brakes either. My Maxima has over 100k miles and is still on the original pads. A replacement set is sitting on the shelf because I didn't need to change them thousands of miles ago like I thought I did. Don't abuse the brakes and they'll last a looooooonnnngggg time! And I don't drive slow, just stop easily. The 1330 engine does a good job of slowing the Spyder when you let up on the throttle.
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Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder
Backstop function??????????????????? I choose to disagree! I see it as a primary function of the SE system!
I don't worry about saving brakes either. My Maxima has over 100k miles and is still on the original pads. A replacement set is sitting on the shelf because I didn't need to change them thousands of miles ago like I thought I did. Don't abuse the brakes and they'll last a looooooonnnngggg time! And I don't drive slow, just stop easily. The 1330 engine does a good job of slowing the Spyder when you let up on the throttle.
"And I don't drive slow, just stop easily."
And we all know at least one person who has two speeds - FAST and STOP!
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As I see it...
Your choice...do it when you want to and you are covered it you are out of range. As for saving brakes the RT's go thru them much faster than the RS/GS/RSS/ST and the Se models faster than the Sm models. It does help the Se models some if you use engine compression to brake....
The gentleman with the Maxima that has 100,000 miles on its brakes should buy a set of pads for his RT and put them on the shelf and compare...
Last edited by Chupaca; 05-12-2017 at 10:30 AM.
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I prefer to match the gear to my speed/revs and driving conditions. YMMV.
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Downshifting vs using the brakes - which is more expensive to replace? Brake pads or clutch?
The same applies to cars.
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Originally Posted by Chupaca
Your choice...do it when you want to and you are covered it you are out of range. As for saving brakes the RT's go thru them much faster than the RS/GS/RSS/ST and the Se models faster than the Sm models. It does help the Se models some if you use engine compression to brake....
The gentleman with the Maxima that has 100,000 miles on its brakes should buy a set of pads for his RT and put them on the shelf and compare...��
My 2007 Toyota Tundra just got a brake job. All 4 rotors replaced with 4 brake pads. All original from day one. My mileage was 160K miles. Pads still had life in them but I figured I was starting to push my luck.
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I have had both the manual and SE versions of tranny.
I prefer the SE these days. The automatic downshifting is very smooth and works fine for me. I use it 98% of the time. If I need to shift it down and crank the throttle for extra power to pass, then I am thankful that choice is also there.
Either way, I don't think you are going to hurt anything.
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Believe it or not, this time I wasn't complaining about the computerization. I actually love my SE!
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