Hidden Bass Setting?

[ArachnidRyder]

Does anyone know what the "secret" setting does in preferences when you select audio and then press up? It still shows as being the bass setting, but the option list changes. Can't find anything in the owners manual about it and my searchs on the forum didn't yield results. Are there really two sets of options for bass?


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[Bob Denman]

Oh great...
Now, EVERYBODY knows about it!

[ArachnidRyder]

Oh great...
Now, EVERYBODY knows about it!

[emoji3] I'm bad that way. Sadly, I have no idea what the setting really does. Lots of options on the list though. [emoji15]

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

If you have the OEM speakers the sound will get worse IMHO......In the world of speakers anything less than 8 inches really doesn't have the ability to produce BASS....That being said, at least higher quality speakers can handle it better ....not great just better..................Of course there are some here who TESTIFY to the theory that a $ 5,000 Amp can make a $ 5.00 speaker sound Great...........................Not me...Mike

[finless]

I have seen that too.... doesn't seem to do anything. It's a glitch in the menu system.
My assumption is it is some internal test or setting maybe for the factory.

Bob

[ArachnidRyder]

If you have the OEM speakers the sound will get worse IMHO......In the world of speakers anything less than 8 inches really doesn't have the ability to produce BASS....That being said, at least higher quality speakers can handle it better ....not great just better..................Of course there are some here who TESTIFY to the theory that a $ 5,000 Amp can make a $ 5.00 speaker sound Great...........................Not me...Mike

I'm really talking about the fact that there are two sets of options for audio bass. One noticeably changes the sound, but the "secret" bass menu seems to do nothing.

[ArachnidRyder]

I have seen that too.... doesn't seem to do anything. It's a glitch in the menu system.
My assumption is it is some internal test or setting maybe for the factory.

Bob

Thanks Bob. That's sort of what I suspected, but a hidden option like that always makes me wonder if it might really have some function that I just haven't figured out. [emoji15]

[jaherbst]

Thanks Bob. That's sort of what I suspected, but a hidden option like that always makes me wonder if it might really have some function that I just haven't figured out. [emoji15]

That setting is simple. It notifies your Wife where you are at if you push it once. If you push it twice it notifies her that you will be home for dinner shortly.

Owners manual Page 124 par. 3.

Jack

[ElmoLucy]

Music? The only music I have comes out the exhaust pipe.


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[Fatcycledaddy]

If you have the OEM speakers the sound will get worse IMHO......In the world of speakers anything less than 8 inches really doesn't have the ability to produce BASS....That being said, at least higher quality speakers can handle it better ....not great just better..................Of course there are some here who TESTIFY to the theory that a $ 5,000 Amp can make a $ 5.00 speaker sound Great...........................Not me...Mike

I agree, the stock speakers suck, turn up the bass, down goes the clarity, then you have a loud noise you can't understand.

You are also correct when you say that wattage is not all that is needed. I have heard speakers that were clear and could produce over 100db on less than 15 watts of power. Here is an audiophiles comments RE wattage and speakers.

"wattage means jack when it comes to speakersand amps".
"wattage for speakersit comes down to senstivity@1w@1m. a good sensitive speakerwill hit 92db@1w@1m. rest of the wattage gets dissipated as heat in both the ampand speaker".

It is sort of like having a car with 1,000HP, full power never gets used, but man is it fun to brag about how many HP you have. Same thing with music, high wattage never gets used to it fullest extent, but man is it fun to brag about how many watts you have. Better sound can be achieved with a great quality speaker and lower watts with more volume you ever need with less power drain.

I know this is just my humble opinion, but after being a sound man at several churches for over 35 years, installing and running several sound systems, I had to put it out there.

[Pirate looks at --]

IMHO, nothing sounds worse than your music blaring away from your motorcycle! Even if it were my music blaring away from my motorcycle, nothing sounds worse! Cut the speaker wires and put the music where it belongs.........in your Helmet!

[Fatcycledaddy]

Nothing like pulling up to a stop light when you are riding with a group of people and all of them have a different music playing, they don't have auto volume control so it is at the volume needed at 80 mph, and you have a jumbled loud noise.
Then because of the noise, my auto adjust volume on my headset turns up and blows my ears out.

But to each his own!

I Love the Sena 20s and the sound is some of the best I have heard in a headset.
However, when on a long trip I sometimes get tired of the music in my ears and turn on the speakers, that is normally on a wide open back road in the boondocks. Then before I hit a town or traffic it goes back to my headset. The sound over the speakers normally doesn't last very long before it is switched back to the headset because of sound quality only.

[robmorg]

Nothing like pulling up to a stop light when you are riding with a group of people and all of them have a different music playing, they don't have auto volume control so it is at the volume needed at 80 mph, and you have a jumbled loud noise.
Then because of the noise, my auto adjust volume on my headset turns up and blows my ears out.

Actually, the Spyder Entertainment system does have a fairly decent auto-adjust control. I immediately missed that when I hooked up Sena BT dongle, and started using my SMH-10 headset instead of the speakers.

BUT... if I just understood you correctly you said that the 20S has a volume auto-adjust built in?? Hmmm. How well does that work? I may have to consider upgrading. I don't need a lot of the new functions that the 20S has, but I WOULD like that AND more clarity/fidelity for the music from my iPod while riding. I wonder how the music fidelity compares with these two Sena headsets.

[Fatcycledaddy]

Actually, the Spyder Entertainment system does have a fairly decent auto-adjust control. I immediately missed that when I hooked up Sena BT dongle, and started using my SMH-10 headset instead of the speakers.

BUT... if I just understood you correctly you said that the 20S has a volume auto-adjust built in?? Hmmm. How well does that work? I may have to consider upgrading. I don't need a lot of the new functions that the 20S has, but I WOULD like that AND more clarity/fidelity for the music from my iPod while riding. I wonder how the music fidelity compares with these two Sena headsets.

Sorry it took me so long to get back with you. Yes the Spyder has a great auto volume adjust, but with the headsets I find that I could almost do without the radio. I can't say 100% that it has an auto volume adjust without being connected to the headset, but I swear it does. I downloaded the app for my droid and that was a setting in the app i believe. The app also gives you the opportunity to load in preset FM stations, and then you can scan through them, use voice to go to a station, or listen to a ballgame while your spouse listens to music. You can also share your music with here, or listen to two different sources of music.
I paired my wife's phone with her headset and my phone with mine, we share my music from my phone, and yet she can get calls on her phone that I wont hear and my music is not interrupted. If I get a call on my phone and the music is shared, her music is interrupted for the duration of the phone call, but she can't hear my phone call.
I have beat earbuds and I think that the 20s sounds better then those. I also like the option of being able to plug in earbuds to the 20s and use them instead of the supplied speakers if I choose.
I have owned a few different headsets, wired and Bluetooth and I feel these are by far the best I have found. JMHO.

[PMK]

Seems there is a lot of hidden bass available.

[billybovine]

Does anyone know what the "secret" setting does in preferences when you select audio and then press up? It still shows as being the bass setting, but the option list changes. Can't find anything in the owners manual about it and my searchs on the forum didn't yield results. Are there really two sets of options for bass?


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That's interesting mine does not do that. When I press the up button with Bass highlighted. It goes to the bottom of the list, Region Settings, like I would expect.

[reverendg]

I agree, the stock speakers suck, turn up the bass, down goes the clarity, then you have a loud noise you can't understand.

You are also correct when you say that wattage is not all that is needed. I have heard speakers that were clear and could produce over 100db on less than 15 watts of power. Here is an audiophiles comments RE wattage and speakers.

"wattage means jack when it comes to speakersand amps".
"wattage for speakersit comes down to senstivity@1w@1m. a good sensitive speakerwill hit 92db@1w@1m. rest of the wattage gets dissipated as heat in both the ampand speaker".

It is sort of like having a car with 1,000HP, full power never gets used, but man is it fun to brag about how many HP you have. Same thing with music, high wattage never gets used to it fullest extent, but man is it fun to brag about how many watts you have. Better sound can be achieved with a great quality speaker and lower watts with more volume you ever need with less power drain.

I know this is just my humble opinion, but after being a sound man at several churches for over 35 years, installing and running several sound systems, I had to put it out there.

That extra power does more than just provide bragging rights. In sound systems it provides headroom, or a power reserve. Assuming adequate speakers, that extra power helps prevent distortion from clipping.
Consider a small displacement motorcycle, it may be able to do 70 mph, but will not accelerate well at that speed. This can be a problem if that oomph is needed.
Extra stereo power stops the amp from clipping and distorting during powerful musical passages, especially heavy bass passages.

[ArachnidRyder]

For anyone that didn't understand my earlier posts, here are two pictures. The first is the "normal" bass setting, the second is the "secret" setting.




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[finless]

For anyone that didn't understand my earlier posts, here are two pictures. The first is the "normal" bass setting, the second is the "secret" setting.




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Yes that is what I get too.

What I think it is, is if you don't have CB for some reason this menu pops up. I believe it is a squelch settings that shows up which is a bug in the radio/software.

I think if you have a CB you will see this menu in the CB settings.

This is my best guess

Bob

[ArachnidRyder]

Yes that is what I get too.

What I think it is, is if you don't have CB for some reason this menu pops up. I believe it is a squelch settings that shows up which is a bug in the radio/software.

I think if you have a CB you will see this menu in the CB settings.

This is my best guess

Bob

That actually makes a lot of sense. I suspect you are correct, sir. Thank you. It has been bugging me not knowing. [emoji3]

[billybovine]

I don't have the cb and mine does not act the same as you are showing. I wonder what the difference is.

Maybe a model year issue. Mine is a 2013. Finless is a 2011. ArachinidRyder ????