That filter does not need changing for 28,000 miles. It resides inside the engine and requires removing engine covers to get at. Don't know what all is involved but the physical pulling of the cover and replacing is not that hard but then there may be more to it cause it is not a cheap service...
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That filter does not need changing for 28,000 miles. It resides inside the engine and requires removing engine covers to get at. Don't know what all is involved but the physical pulling of the cover and replacing is not that hard but then there may be more to it cause it is not a cheap service...
I got the mileage on , I need to talk to someone who has done this themselves. I know the filter is about $105.
I've got a manual transmission so no transmission filter for me.
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Changing the transmission filter requires the BUDS Computer to be connected after the oil/filter change to cycle the various solenoids in the HCM (Hydraulic Control Module). Doing the procedure ensures that all the air that got into the system during the filter change is removed. Air in the hydraulic system is not good. So unless you have access to a BUDS computer you will need the dealer do the job.
I changed mine just before our NTA trip at 21,000 miles. Early I know, but did not want to have to have that done during the trip.
It's more involved than just the standard oil and filter change, but that's where you start by draining all the oil out first as you will still get a fair amount out of that cover.
It is located at the bottom far right of the motor on the right side. I removed the right side black plastic support piece that holds the snap on vented Tupperware and the headlight adjuster as well as the right side short skid plate below it. This gave me direct access to the 10mm (head) bolts on the cover as well as a strait shot for the oil to drain.
The cover and filter are one piece so remove the bolts and pull the old cover off and replace with the new and bolt it on. Fill with oil (make sure your drain plugs and back in) run the bike and check for any leaks then button it all back up. Have a beer and congratulate yourself on saving a lot of $ that the dealer would have charged you.
If you have the time to wait you can find the filter on line for less than the $105 I paid.
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Changing the transmission filter requires the BUDS Computer to be connected after the oil/filter change to cycle the various solenoids in the HCM (Hydraulic Control Module). Doing the procedure ensures that all the air that got into the system during the filter change is removed. Air in the hydraulic system is not good. So unless you have access to a BUDS computer you will need the dealer do the job.
No BUDS done, no Air, and no problems when I did mine and that was 10,000 miles ago. In fact the person who sold me the filter is also the head Spyder tech at my dealer and if BUDS was required he would have told me.
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No BUDS done, no Air, and no problems when I did mine and that was 10,000 miles ago. In fact the person who sold me the filter is also the head Spyder tech at my dealer and if BUDS was required he would have told me.
Thanks PW20, Just what I needed from somebody that's done it. Thanks again , BLuep
Changing the transmission filter requires the BUDS Computer to be connected after the oil/filter change to cycle the various solenoids in the HCM (Hydraulic Control Module). Doing the procedure ensures that all the air that got into the system during the filter change is removed. Air in the hydraulic system is not good. So unless you have access to a BUDS computer you will need the dealer do the job.
just read this in the manual. If you replace the filter you need to make sure no air is in the system.. BUDS is required..
just read this in the manual. If you replace the filter you need to make sure no air is in the system.. BUDS is required..
I was hoping that that was put in there to convince us we needed to take it to the dealer. I have 8500 miles left before I need to do mine so maybe a few others will have reported on theirs by then!!
just read this in the manual. If you replace the filter you need to make sure no air is in the system.. BUDS is required..
.....According to the MANUAL.......BUDS is REQUIRED for almost everything that is done on all Spyders...........Well guess what ...this is a Myth................It also says everytime a CODE shows on your screen.....put the Spyder on a trailer and IMMEDIATELY bring it to the nearest Dealer. If every one actually did this, the total mileage for ALL Spyders sold to date would be about 10,000 miles and 95 % of them would be in the shop right now WAITING to be serviced .................just sayin.........Mike
.....According to the MANUAL.......BUDS is REQUIRED for almost everything that is done on all Spyders...........Well guess what ...this is a Myth................It also says everytime a CODE shows on your screen.....put the Spyder on a trailer and IMMEDIATELY bring it to the nearest Dealer. If every one actually did this, the total mileage for ALL Spyders sold to date would be about 10,000 miles and 95 % of them would be in the shop right now WAITING to be serviced .................just sayin.........Mike
HMMMMMMMMMMMM Maybe Jerry Rig up a purge the air in the system tool and bypass BUDS then and the dealer
Has anyone actually bought the BUDS software for home use out there?? The dealer version..I have also seen the non dealer version..
PW, did you dissect the old one to see what it looked like? Would like to know what it is made of and whether there were
any obvious accumulation of debris.
Looking at the fiche I don't see anything called transmission filter.
Could it be what is called an "Oil radiator"? Oil Radiator 420888857
$104.99
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HMMMMMMMMMMMM Maybe Jerry Rig up a purge the air in the system tool and bypass BUDS then and the dealer
Has anyone actually bought the BUDS software for home use out there?? The dealer version..I have also seen the non dealer version..
It is all the same version you just can't write any changes to BRP if you aren't a dealer. We also don't have access to the BOSS website
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PW, did you dissect the old one to see what it looked like? Would like to know what it is made of and whether there were
any obvious accumulation of debris.
Looking at the fiche I don't see anything called transmission filter.
Could it be what is called an "Oil radiator"? Oil Radiator 420888857
$104.99
I think what you're looking for is in the Clutch Cover parts list, item #16, Oil Filter and Cover Assembly in the attachment. The cover and and filter are an assembly replaced as a unit.
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HMMMMMMMMMMMM Maybe Jerry Rig up a purge the air in the system tool and bypass BUDS then and the dealer
Has anyone actually bought the BUDS software for home use out there?? The dealer version..I have also seen the non dealer version..
Yes anyone can own the BUDS system. All you need is a Laptop, buy the CAN BUS to USB interface module and the License. For maintenance on the SPYDER you only need to buy the SPYDER specific license for a very reasonable price. They are available in 1,2,5 and 10 year intervals your choice. This will allow you to bleed the brake system per the shop manual, SE6 transmission filter change as well as other maintenance/troubleshooting procedures called out in the shop manual. I have the BUDS and used it to Isolate a parking brake problem and use it to zero the sensors after I do Laser alignments.
BUDS is actually a lot more limited and generic looking than you'd ever believe. However, BRP Diagnostics is a great setup for the OEM software, and very reasonable. Just don't expect unicorns and glitter, you'll be disappointed. Up until about a year or so ago, we had been using it in the seadoo world when dealing with machines still using stock ecus. I always felt like I was working in windows 95. The biggest complaint we had was it seemed like we were noticeably slower to get the updates vs. The local dealer. Don't know if that's gotten better?? Never played with the spyder version though.
Yes anyone can own the BUDS system. All you need is a Laptop, buy the CAN BUS to USB interface module and the License. For maintenance on the SPYDER you only need to buy the SPYDER specific license for a very reasonable price. They are available in 1,2,5 and 10 year intervals your choice. This will allow you to bleed the brake system per the shop manual, SE6 transmission filter change as well as other maintenance/troubleshooting procedures called out in the shop manual. I have the BUDS and used it to Isolate a parking brake problem and use it to zero the sensors after I do Laser alignments.