Me and the wife never got to go on any long rides on the 13 (whole nother story) and now with the 14 we finally got our first long ride in and the BRP "comfort" seat has got to go! Wife said no more long rides till we figure something out. I must admit that about 170 or so miles in my ass was done! 200 in and she was ready to rent a car to get home. I have tried the Ultimate but it caused me "hot spots" on the back of my thighs, I have set on Corbins and I feel cramped so now were looking into a Russell Day-long seat to see if I can get some decent comfort on the Spyder.