Belt tensioner.

[DunaJ]

Completed my installation over the weekend.

AWESOME UPGRADE BYE BYE Vibrations!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Totally different ride with the VIBs gone.

[jneg2]

So glad that I installed my Smooth Spyder over a year ago.. Couldn't have waited this long..

[Ron2andia]

Have a dealer appointment to do it because he said the belt tension has to be changed as well. Is that the case?

[warrensr]

Have a F3T, will it work on it and where can you order it from?

[bigwhammy]

Yahoo finally arrived in Australia.
Put mine on today and it works.
Pn 219800412
Mat. Desc. F3 Idler Pulley Kit (Esemble Roue Libre F3).
Known in Australia as a Idler Belt Kit.
For the technically minded.....
Appears that the swing arm (injection Moulded) and roller are made from Acetal so will be strong and last along time.
Japanese NSK roller bearings in roller and possibly in the pivot point.
Bolts are Class 8.8 medium Carbon Steel Heat treated. Proof load of 600 Mpa with Nilock nuts.
The spring looks like good quality also But I will be keeping an eye on it for corrosion.
The bracket is 2.5 mm (1/10 inch) plate steel.
It has about 6.5 kg pre load when flat.
Shame on BRP for not putting this on originally.
BRP will most probably still have it as an option to recoup R&D costs and hence avoid liability for an imaginary vibration (one that most of owners have experienced).

[Peteoz]

Have a F3T, will it work on it and where can you order it from?

Yes, and read the earlier posts, warren.....

[Peteoz]

Just had a message from my dealer that it is in. Thank you, Americans, for finally letting some reach the other ends of the earth. I have to pop my F3 in for a checkup and laser alignment once I get me new Kumho on, so I might get them to do that at the same time.

Are you serious, Whammy? The bolts are only Class 8.8? I will send it back and demand at least Class 8.9 ........Seriously though, thanks for the info.....even though I don't have a clue what acetal is, it's great to know that it is made out of long lasting materials

[bigwhammy]

Just had a message from my dealer that it is in. Thank you, Americans, for finally letting some reach the other ends of the earth. I have to pop my F3 in for a checkup and laser alignment once I get me new Kumho on, so I might get them to do that at the same time.

Are you serious, Whammy? The bolts are only Class 8.8? I will send it back and demand at least Class 8.9 ........Seriously though, thanks for the info.....even though I don't have a clue what acetal is, it's great to know that it is made out of long lasting materials

Yes I would have preferred class 12.9 bolts (1220 Mpa Tensile Strength) but it is hard to find class 12 nuts so I would have to make do with class 10 nuts.
Polyacetal (Acetal POM) is basically a Thermosetting Plastic it is hard, stiff, resists creeping, has dimensional stability with a low coefficient of friction (stay away from jokes about this material). It is replacing precision metal gears and bearings, great for things that are in hot water up to 60 to 90 C.
I fitted it in less than 30 minutes so make sure you do not get charged extra for morning tea and lunch breaks. They should be able to do it in less than 30 minutes. I had to make 2 trips from my car parking garage to my workshop garage which added 8 minutes. So BRPs estimate of 0.3 hours (20 minutes) is correct.
Note for Australian fitters .. . the instructions illustrate the USA version with the larger rear sprocket hence the idler roller sits lower on the European / Australian models with maybe a little less tension (less than 3kg (= 0.5 kgf)).

[irvin48]

what is used for bearings inside the roller ? think it will be long lasting ?
--irv

[Firefly]

Have a dealer appointment to do it because he said the belt tension has to be changed as well. Is that the case?

Whiles it's a good idea to check your belt tension and make sure it's in spec, it is not a requirement. There is no recommended change in the belt tension when installing this option.


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[PW2013STL]

what is used for bearings inside the roller ? think it will be long lasting ?
--irv

Check post #30 for your answer.

[irvin48]

oops . didnt read well. was getting all the plastic parts specs instead. thank you !

[bigwhammy]

what is used for bearings inside the roller ? think it will be long lasting ?
--irv

Japanese NSK as good as you can get. Not crappy Chinese ones.

[pdxsenior]

I received my kit yesterday and have printed out the instructions.
Here is the deal guys, I also found out yesterday that I have to have spine surgery next month so please go easy on the back-and-forth about my question, I'm just not in the mood... sorry.
Where can I get a video of how to install it?

15' F3S SE6 owner

[Bob Denman]

Heal quickly and completely...

[KJWEB]

I received my kit yesterday and have printed out the instructions.
Here is the deal guys, I also found out yesterday that I have to have spine surgery next month so please go easy on the back-and-forth about my question, I'm just not in the mood... sorry.
Where can I get a video of how to install it?

15' F3S SE6 owner

I sent you a text message

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I received my kit yesterday and have printed out the instructions.
Here is the deal guys, I also found out yesterday that I have to have spine surgery next month so please go easy on the back-and-forth about my question, I'm just not in the mood... sorry.
Where can I get a video of how to install it?

15' F3S SE6 owner

Lamont did an excellent one with some handy tips ...... M

[pdxsenior]

Well, a very good and dear friend of mine, Kevin, in the Seattle area is going to ride down here, Albany, and install it for me. What more could a guy ask for... nothing😊

15' F3S SE6 owner

[Firefly]

I received my kit yesterday and have printed out the instructions.
Here is the deal guys, I also found out yesterday that I have to have spine surgery next month so please go easy on the back-and-forth about my question, I'm just not in the mood... sorry.
Where can I get a video of how to install it?

15' F3S SE6 owner

Go to Lamonstergarage.com. He has a video of the install.


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[reissooz]

Had my BRP tensioner put on yesterday by my favorite dealer in Wisconsin Rapids. Noticeable difference in ride quality. There's still a hint of vibration but not sure if that's from the belt or not. Definitely a great mod for the bike!

[Wildrice]

Had my BRP tensioner put on yesterday by my favorite dealer in Wisconsin Rapids. Noticeable difference in ride quality. There's still a hint of vibration but not sure if that's from the belt or not. Definitely a great mod for the bike!

Yes--regardless of what other posts may say, it does not solve the problem for all of us, I can understand their loyalty, but bull**** has never satisfied me, why else would I say this if it wasn't true??? The problem is engine vibration in the 3200-3800 range--the engine is not balanced--the entire site can blame it on the belt---so why do some of us still feel vibration after the BRP roller assy is installed???

[tmcquain]

After looking at Doc Humphreys video and all for the RT mod for this, I had to pull the trigger. I have wanted to get a tensioner but the 200-300 price range always seemed really high, the brp part is 35 bucks and docs mod is 40, and it looks easier to install than either the Baker or smooth spyder....we'll see i'll update when I get it installed !

[bruiser]

Installed mine today. Huge difference. I'm pleased with the product and very pleased with the smoother ride. Now my teeth don't hurt at the end of a long ride.

[Firefly]

Yes--regardless of what other posts may say, it does not solve the problem for all of us, I can understand their loyalty, but bull**** has never satisfied me, why else would I say this if it wasn't true??? The problem is engine vibration in the 3200-3800 range--the engine is not balanced--the entire site can blame it on the belt---so why do some of us still feel vibration after the BRP roller assy is installed???

Christ on a cracker! Engines give out vibrations... get over it already. The belt tensioner GREATLY helps reduce vibration. The Spyder vibrations are nothing compared to other motorcycles on the market, except the gold wing which is damn smooth.
If you want a ride without any engine vibrations then perhaps a car would be a better choice for you. Seems like you're far too sensitive to vibrations to be riding a motorcycle at all.


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[Wildrice]

Christ on a cracker! Engines give out vibrations... get over it already. The belt tensioner GREATLY helps reduce vibration. The Spyder vibrations are nothing compared to other motorcycles on the market, except the gold wing which is damn smooth.
If you want a ride without any engine vibrations then perhaps a car would be a better choice for you. Seems like you're far too sensitive to vibrations to be riding a motorcycle at all.


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Sorry to have offended you and a few others. My goal was to have BRP correct the problem on future productions. My other bike is a 2007 Suzuki Hayabusa with a Stage 2 Velocity Turbo putting out 344 rwhp & 210# torque on a 530# bike. This isn't my 1st rodeo. Could I have some cheese on that cracker?Darrell Feit Dyno Graph2007 Busa.jpg. Dyno chart attached.