ABANDONED BY BRP !!!

[cuznjohn]

same thing happened to two dealers that i know of. one honda motorcycle dealer, and the other a chevy dealer. both were screwing with the books to get iron on their lots, and the company pulled their dealerships

[youngers]

Bombardier is going to layoff 7,500 folks worldwide. So what does that have to do with BRP? Not the same company. Bombardier sold off BRP in 2003.

thanks yeah saw that one , did not know of the sale off , which is good for spyder cycles !

[youngers]

You do that. Maybe then you will get your numbers correct.

It is mainly in the train division that the layoffs will happen.

They are planning to hire over 3000 in the aeronautic division

BRP is a separate company to Bombardier.

thanks for setting me straight ! though the lear jet division , was in the article ... did not know they had a train division

[scott16119]

A local BRP dealer near here apparently lost their BRP and Honda motorcycle franchises too last spring. Within a few months some one else just down the road started selling BRP products and Honda motorcycles. When I got my Spyder in 2012 there was one dealer within 20 miles, 2 within 70 miles and maybe 2 or 3 more dealers about 100 miles away. As of the last year or so I have 3 Spyder dealers within 50 miles from my home now.

[PistonBlown]

For a couple of years my nearest dealer was seven and a half hour ride away, so 15 hour round trip not including the time actually there. Fortunately a good one has now opened only three hours away.

[Deer Slayer]

Did BRP pull Ski Doo too?

[stovebolt_six]

The same thing happened to our local dealership two weeks after we purchased our F3 last year. We had stopped in to the dealership because we were going to purchase some accessories, we were told, by the dealership, that BRP pulled their Spyder dealership, because too many Spyders were being sold to customers in neighboring counties. The dealership is still a CanAm dealership, but no longer a Spyder dealership, they told us that the Spyder dealership is a separate dealership. This is what we were told by the dealership. Now we have to ride a longer distance to have our Spyder serviced. Now our closest dealership is in Durango Colorado. Makes for a nice ride though, but not very convenient.

[deer30084]

Businesses close when they don't make money. But, when I was shopping for a Spyder, $25,000, $27,000, and $31,000 was too much for me. When I told the dealer those prices were out of the question, he told me about the 2015 leftovers that were under $20,000 and I agreed to buy. Maybe I didn't help the company too much with my purchase, but I have a Spyder and I hope my dealer stays open. I wish I saw more Spyders on the road, but I believe price has a lot to do with it.

[youngers]

I wonder what the mark - up is on the spyders ? 25 ooo too 30,ooo a year, or two , later , down too under 20,ooo ? { and I wonder how many get turned off by the 1st and 2nd gear clunk noise ? }

[PrairieSpyder]

. . . we were told, by the dealership, that BRP pulled their Spyder dealership, because too many Spyders were being sold to customers in neighboring counties. . . .

I'm calling BS on that.

I have heard BRP has some quite restrictive conditions for dealers but not that.

[40Xshooter]

I am in Illinois and there are only two dealerships within a reasonable range.

You must travel out to the suburbs for service. I don't think there's a dealer in the city, is there?

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

... we were told, by the dealership, that BRP pulled their Spyder dealership, because too many Spyders were being sold to customers in neighboring counties.

I'm calling BS on that.

I have heard BRP has some quite restrictive conditions for dealers but not that.

with PS about the BS!! There are two Spyder dealers here in SW Idaho about 30 miles apart. They both sell in each others backyard.

The Spyder dealership is, as has been said, separate from the other powersports lines. However, if a dealer provides either outstanding service or bad service in the Ski Doo, Sea Doo, and UTV areas, I believe that can be a factor in whether they can or cannot keep the Spyder dealership. But based on discussions with the Can Am rep last fall, and a Can Am, but not Spyder, dealer in my home town area, sales volume is a major factor in whether a Spyder dealer gets and then keeps or loses the Spyder line.

[BajaRon]

There are really only 3 reasonable possibilities here.

1- Very poor customer service. From SL users feedback this seems unlikely. In any case. There would be a number of warnings, discussions, notifications, etc., over a lengthy period of time. Having their ticket punched and inventory removed would not be 'Without Warning'.

2- Financial issues so bad that BRP had to pull their ticket. But again, there would be a lengthy process involved. If nothing else I am sure the process and results are clearly spelled out in the contractual agreement.

3- Sales so poor that the dealership decided to drop out of the Spyder line. Dealerships can keep the other BRP product lines. Dropping the Spyder makes sense if it is creating a hole in your profit margin. Again, no 'Without Warning' possibility here.

Though there are other UNREASONABLE scenarios possible. I think them very unlikely. BRP has an obligation to the customer and to the product line to remove bad apples. They can't afford to float financially delinquent dealers. And they can't, and should not, block dealerships from dropping a product that isn't bringing a profit.

My guess is that these 2 dealerships do very well in snowmobiles and off road vehicles. The Spyder may not have been a profitable product for them and scenario 3 is the most probable answer.

You may feel abandoned, understandable. But it is probably just a business decision made by the dealerships.

I do not have any inside information. Just my 2 cents.

[Cruzr Joe]

There are really only 3 reasonable possibilities here.

1- Very poor customer service. From SL users feedback this seems unlikely. In any case. There would be a number of warnings, discussions, notifications, etc., over a lengthy period of time. Having their ticket punched and inventory removed would not be 'Without Warning'.

2- Financial issues so bad that BRP had to pull their ticket. But again, there would be a lengthy process involved. If nothing else I am sure the process and results are clearly spelled out in the contractual agreement.

3- Sales so poor that the dealership decided to drop out of the Spyder line. Dealerships can keep the other BRP product lines. Dropping the Spyder makes sense if it is creating a hole in your profit margin. Again, no 'Without Warning' possibility here.

Though there are other UNREASONABLE scenarios possible. I think them very unlikely. But BRP has an obligation to the customer and to the product line to remove bad apples. They can't afford to float financially delinquent dealers. And they can't, and should not, block dealerships from dropping a product that isn't bringing a profit.

My guess is that these 2 dealerships do very well in snowmobiles and off road vehicles. The Spyder may not have been a profitable product for them and scenario 3 is the most probable answer.

I do not have any inside information. Just my 2 cents.

Do you know any secrets that you would care to share???? (inside Joke)

Cruzr Joe

[BajaRon]

Do you know any secrets that you would care to share???? (inside Joke)

Cruzr Joe

You are going to get me into trouble! Please refer to the last line in my post. I put it there just for you Cruzr Joe!

[HIspyder]

Well, folks, we, here in Montana have been left "out in the cold".
Without any notice to Spyder owners, BRP has removed the Spyder inventory from the only two dealers in this state: Great Falls and Kalispell!
This information comes second hand, from another Spyder owner:
BRP/CANAM has picked up all Spyders (demos, used and new) from those two dealers. However, one of them at least, has an agreement to continue Spyder service for two years.
Having been a Spyder owner for six years, I feel betrayed!
Our closest dealer is in Spokane, Washington, now.
I've got to wonder if this is going to be a trend!
CapNCrunch in Stevensville, MT
: =( : =(

Would it make you feel any better to know my situation?

I have the only F3 in the state of Hawaii, that I know of, on the island of Kauai to be specific. I would have to spend over $2k in order for me to get it to a dealer and then back home. I don't see there being a BRP dealer in the state in the near or distant future. My one and only advantage is that I was an automotive tech in a previous life, so I took on the challenge. So far, so good.

It's true, I knew this going in and your situation is quite different but just know that it could be worse. I do feel for you but dealers come and go for all kinds of reasons. Unfortunate as it is, it's just life.

[missouriboy]

Do you know any secrets that you would care to share???? (inside Joke)

Cruzr Joe

Hagar the Horrible: What are you so happy about?

Lucky Eddie: I just learned the secret of life!

HtH: Well, aren't you going to tell me the secret?

LE: No, I can't.

HtH: Why not?

LE: Because it's a secret!

[Fat Baxter]

It may be that Montana's climate isn't very conducive to Spyders, since they don't handle well in snow and ice (i.e., not at all), and Montana has only three seasons: fall, winter, and the Fourth of July.

When I was pulling ICBM crew duty in Montana, when we went to the alert facilities, we had to take our winter parkas and other thermal gear with us from mid-September to the end of May, because the weather was so variable and unpredictable.

I'm guessing the sales just aren't there to warrant a dealership for such a specialized contraption. Off-road four-wheelers, yes, but maybe not Spyders.

[Whitelightning]

Dealer search zip code 96789 n/a (spinning wheel). Google maps =5,136 miles to my dealer.

[youngers]

Dealer search zip code 96789 n/a (spinning wheel). Google maps =5,136 miles to my dealer.

hahahaha water trip ! I mean uhhhhh road trip ,

[DonDMT]

Well, folks, we, here in Montana have been left "out in the cold".
Without any notice to Spyder owners, BRP has removed the Spyder inventory from the only two dealers in this state: Great Falls and Kalispell!
This information comes second hand, from another Spyder owner:
BRP/CANAM has picked up all Spyders (demos, used and new) from those two dealers. However, one of them at least, has an agreement to continue Spyder service for two years.
Having been a Spyder owner for six years, I feel betrayed!
Our closest dealer is in Spokane, Washington, now.
I've got to wonder if this is going to be a trend!
CapNCrunch in Stevensville, MT
: =( : =(

Just wondering if the dealer is still in Billings, that is where I bought mine and he was just starting to build a new building in May..

[seaweed]

Just wondering if the dealer is still in Billings, that is where I bought mine and he was just starting to build a new building in May..

According to the BRP website http://can-am.brp.com/spyder/dealer-locator.html
there is one in Billings.

[Buckeye Bleau]

I was reading RidinOn magazine, October issue and it quoted BRP officials as working on research to introduce a two wheel product line in order to increase market share.

Joe

[Deanna777]

thanks for setting me straight ! though the lear jet division , was in the article ... did not know they had a train division

We had a train division here in Vermont.


The train division moved to Plattsburgh, New York in 1995, the main plant. Deanna

[MOSESS]

Well here in North jersey we had one dealer stop selling Spyders . They sold 6 units this year .all 15s and still had over 10 units in crates. they also still had some 14s in crates. BRP told them they had to pre order 30 units. The dealer was in a new win situation, having all of this inventory and limited space and now BRP telling them that they must buy 30 units or else. else meaning we will pull out. The dealer had no option but to tell BRP come get it. BRP is at fault here. I to now have to travel to a dealer I don't like.