2 questions

[Semper Fi]

do we need to burn this in our gas tanks to beat the Ethanol and, is this a battery tender hook up? I think it is a hook up but, I am not sure. I used the Ethanol beater stuff in my FJR with every tank. It ran great until the day I traded it in on the F3-S that I now have.

[papanorm]

Yes to both questions, that is your battery tender hookup direct to your battery. I always add Startron Enzyme fuel treatment to the tank to counteract the effects of ethanol.
Congrats on the new Spyder!

[youngers]

not sure of the gas treatment , but do not pull the cap off the 2 nd photo , that starts the self destruct codes ... just messing with you ! the 2nd one , mine has this connection but also blinks , yellow while it is powering down , computer , or what ever the high pitch noise is , after that goes green ! but it looks a lot like yours ... now the gas part , I keep my cycle in garage during all weather , this being my 1 st winter , I should not have problems it is sort of heated , { never had problems with my 2 wheeler in here } and I pull them out weekly start them and let them run a bit , { get a bar , on the temp side at least } then pull it back in when the fumes leave the exhaust region .. I would say it will depend on where it is stored and how much winter riding you might do ... not too forget the water , radiator coolant mix

[Semper Fi]

Mine, when I park it for the winter will be in the garage without heat. I will, and would have, mixed some fuel stabilizer with the gas anyway. I just wasn't sure if that was a battery tender hook up or not. Thanks for all of your help.

[youngers]

now the other question , what kind of battery tender goes with this hook up attachment ?

[Semper Fi]

Good question. I have a "Battery Tender". I have had it for several years now.

[lou49]

now the other question , what kind of battery tender goes with this hook up attachment ?

I'm not an expert, but any 12 volt battery tender will do! The ones I have bought come with the clamps to jump start straight to a battery and also come with the necessary connector to hook up with what you already have on your bike!
All auto parts have them, also you can find them on amazon and eBay! Use it all the time the bike is park in my garage!

[youngers]

I'm not an expert, but any 12 volt battery tender will do! The ones I have bought come with the clamps to jump start straight to a battery and also come with the necessary connector to hook up with what you already have on your bike!
All auto parts have them, also you can find them on amazon and eBay! Use it all the time the bike is park in my garage!

will give them a look at ! just in case I can`t get it out for a ride ! thanks lou

[Bob Denman]

No... and yes!
Ethanol won't kill your dog, make your kids leave home, cause a divorce, or even damage your Spyder.
All that it will do: hurt your fuel economy a little bit.

If you've got a 998, and it will sit for a week: use a Battery Tender
If you've got a 1330: you're safe for at least a Month's worth of idle time.

EDIT: After reading your profile; I see that you've got a 2015 F3-S.
You're safe to let it just sit for all but the longest times.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I use Startron, The chemical make-up adds +1 octane in addition to canceling the Alcohol !!!! ..... I hope ......Mike

[Tango]

Yes, and yes. Also try to fill up with pure gas if you can find it. It really makes a difference. Tom

[Snowbelt Spyder]

now the other question , what kind of battery tender goes with this hook up attachment ?

Good question. I have a "Battery Tender". I have had it for several years now.

Well, that does appear to be the harness for the Deltran brand of Battery Tender. I guess that would be THE Battery Tender. And yeah, that square thing in the harness is a fuse. I have that exact harness on my lawn mower.

http://www.batterytender.com/Accesso...l-Harness.html

I use that Lucas Oil Ethanol treatment. Every fillup 1oz. per 5 gallons, I believe. Supposed to have some cleaning properties along with the ethanol treatment properties...or maybe that's just marketing. But, it hasn't hurt anything and it's cheaper than a fuel injector.

http://www.fuelsystemguide.com/what-...uel-treatment/

Of course, for long term storage over winter, you'll want something more, like the Sta-Bil product.

Check out the PA stations that sell ethanol free gas. There's places in Middleburg and Millheim.

http://www.pure-gas.org

[Bfromla]

Fyi there are many ways to fight Ethanol some find it best to just get
"E-free" gas
http://pure-gas.org. It has helped my MPG i may add some Seafoam once a month or so but I dont feel the need to add some every tank.
The connector should very well be connected to your battery. Possibly by the dealer , do suggest you check the voltage & terminals for proper connections. Commonly the side of plug covered in plastic
(called female connector) should be the +positive side of the battery(also closer to where it connects to the battery should be a 5Aor less Fuse)The other more exposed side (male) is the -negative side. The connectors are readly available & usually provided on most "battery tenders" /maintainers made for quick disconnection. Good luck

[jaherbst]

IMHO it's all "Snake Oil milked from Arizona Diamond Back Rattle Snakes"! Don't waste your

money! The only thing I add to my gas is more gas.

Jack

[Bob Denman]

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[5Wheels]

I had to clean out a friend's garage after his passing. I found 3 different brands of battery maintainers and they all had the same type of connector that you have pictured. None of them were the "Battery Tender" brand.

[KX5062]

IMHO it's all "Snake Oil milked from Arizona Diamond Back Rattle Snakes"! Don't waste your

money! The only thing I add to my gas is more gas.

Jack

And, how many carburetors have you replaced because of the modern E10 gasoline? How many petcock valves?

I'm up to 3 full carburetors and about 6 petcocks. (Between my and my buddies' bikes that I work on for them.) Yes, the new formula E10s will eat away at the brass and aluminum within the petcock valves. It also dissolves the plastic screens inside the valves too.

Fuel injected systems are not as susceptible to damage because they are a closed system and not exposed to the ambient air.

It ain't snake oil, it's science and chemistry.

[Bob Denman]

But how many carburetors have you replaced on modern fuel-injected engines?

The stuff will NOT hurt your Spyder!

[WackyDan]

Your engine is designed to run with ethanol blended fuels. If you aren't going to be riding for more than a couple of months, then you should add an ethanol specific fuel stabilizer to the tank following the product directions.

Additionally... If you are storing long term it is better to have less ethanol blended fuel in the tank than a full tank. Reason is the alcohol content in the gas loves to absorb moisture, so the more of it in the tank the worse off things will get in long term storage.

In the days before ethanol, the advice would have been to fill the tank.

[KX5062]

But how many carburetors have you replaced on modern fuel-injected engines?

The stuff will NOT hurt your Spyder!

You ARE kidding right???

(FI engines do not have carburetors)

[Bob Denman]

You ARE kidding right???

(FI engines do not have carburetors)

How long did it take you to figure out this?
You were complaining about having to replace carburetors...
It's just never going to be an issue with the Spyders.

[jcthorne]

The battery tender connection is a pretty standard one. Many brands use that type.

When looking for a battery tender for your bike, be sure to select one that is intended for AGM (Absorbed Glass Matt) type batteries. They need different charging and float voltages than normal liquid filled batteries.


On the gas additive thing, just stick with high quality top tier gasoline, 91 octane or higher and you will be just fine in your spyder.

[Gray Ghost]

Fuel injected systems are not as susceptible to damage because they are a closed system and not exposed to the ambient air.

The tank is still vented, condensation will still form and be absorbed by the alcohol causing phase separation of the gasoline.

The stuff will NOT hurt your Spyder!

Granted that we don't have all the carb parts to be clogged up by ethanol gunk, the gas is still subject to phase separation. The longer it sets the worse your bike will run, if at all, when you come out of storage.

... If you are storing long term it is better to have less ethanol blended fuel in the tank than a full tank. Reason is the alcohol content in the gas loves to absorb moisture, so the more of it in the tank the worse off things will get in long term storage.

In the days before ethanol, the advice would have been to fill the tank.

It is even more critical to fill the tank now. The greater the area of open steel tank, the more condensation will form. More water to combine with the ethanol.

On the gas additive thing, just stick with high quality top tier gasoline, 91 octane or higher and you will be just fine in your spyder.

Whether it is 87 or 91 octane, E10 still has ethanol which will phase separate in your tank when stored for a long period.

[DrewNJ]

You all must be storing your machines in a root cellar to get all this condensation...😂
Ride more, worry less.

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[Bob Denman]

Thank you!

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