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LED Lighting, Is too much too much?
I have asked this before in a previous thread when I owned my RT. Now that I have my F3 I want to add more LED lights to the front and rear of the spyder. I already added LED headlights from Xenon Depot, fender and saddle bag side marker LED lights from TriLed, Fog Lights and the longhorn mirror light kit from Lamonster garage and considering the dayrunner A-arm LED strips, as well as the cyclops LED for the front of the trunk. I guess I have to ask if all that lighting is legal? I already get high beamed now with some approaching vehicles on the road when my headlights are in low beam. I guess the bright led fog and headlights confuses people. Now if I do add the day runners and cyclops will that just add to the confusion from people? What are some of your thoughts on this matter, anyone?
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More is better!
You can never have too much light!
Joe Meyer
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2021 RT Limited
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if you really want to know if "all that" is legal, maybe in some states, not in others. Consult YOUR DMV
Flatlander, Navy Veteran, Widower
Loved my 2014 RTS SE6 Pearl white
but have a new love now,
my 2017 RTS SE6 Champagne metallic (Champ)
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If they flash their brights at you, then at least you know that they see you.
Mission accomplished!
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If you want to live longer, light it up brighter!!!
I'm all about lights and sound.
i want to be seen and heard.
HAND'S UP:
The only sure way of getting rid of bad habits is to create good ones.
AND, by the way, this will not happen on auto pilot.
It's time for a YOU-turn!!!
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I found this link which shows the laws regarding vehicle modifications from all 50 states. http://traffic.findlaw.com/traffic-t...tate-laws.html
I checked this link as well for VT in regards to lighting http://dmv.vermont.gov/safety/safety/equipment. From what I can see if you are adding extra lighting to improve safety it should be fine, as long as it is not glow lights flashing or running. I believe the white day runner lights for example should be fine is in my sate.
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You might also want to wear a reflective vest and put a strip of reflective tape on the back of your helmet.
John F.
Tallahassee, FL
2015 Spyder F3 SE6, black
BRP Driver/passenger Footboards
BRP Adjustable Passenger Backrest
Blue Ridge Windshield
MRA X-Creen Tour, clear, clamp-on
H4 LED Headlights
F3 LED Fog Light Kit, LED Amber Halo Ring Kit, LED Tail Lights, F3 Rear run/brake/turn LEDs
Easy Brackets
Leatherworks, Inc. 120 Special Slight Angle Saddlebags
Custom Dynamics Front Mud Flap LED lights, Street Magic Front Fender Tips, Double Feature Lens
2-up rear shock
Idler pulley kit
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Might want to check out this video, this guy warns of adding too many extra LEDs to the Spyder
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It never fail, every time you mess with the original design you taking a change of messing it up and always asking the question, What the #### happened?
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Originally Posted by jtrobaugh
Might want to check out this video, this guy warns of adding too many extra LEDs to the Spyder
It is also more of a message to avoid putting cheap overseas crap on the Spyder, jt. He even mentions a supplier by name, saying that their stuff is OK.
Harrington, Australia
2021 RT Limited
Setup for Tall & Big.... 200cm/6'7", 140kg/300lbs, 37"inleg.
HeliBars Handlebars
Brake rubber removed to lower pedal for easier long leg/Size 15 EEEEW boot access.
Ikon (Aussie) shocks all round.
Russell Daylong seat 2” taller than stock (in Sunbrella for Aussie heat & water resistance)
Goodyear Duragrip 165/60 fronts (18psi) - provides extra 1/2” ground clearance.
Kenda Kanine rear.
2021 RT Limited , Brake pedal rubber removed for ease of accessing pedal with size 15 boots. Red
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Just Use Common Sense
Originally Posted by cptjam
You can never have too much light!
Originally Posted by Bob Denman
I'd rather that they be a bit confused; than unaware!
I also agree with those sentiments. Here is my take on the subject of extra lights, FWIW. Some other folks will definately disagree...
Legality - Official DMV rules do vary from state to state. I wouldn't worry about ANY of them. As long as you use common sense, like not putting red lights on the front and white lights on the back, or flashing lights that emulate police lights, etc., you very seldom EVER hear of anyone getting into trouble with extra lights on a motorcycle. Most all police and inspection stations realize that you are doing it as a matter of safety.
Confusing other Drivers - I agree with what Bob D. said above. No amount of extra lights are a problem in the daytime. The more, the better in order to help avoid other drivers from turning left into your path, or ramming into you from the rear. As for night driving, I would simply avoid bright lights that are aimed high enough to blind oncoming drivers. The TricLED high-density daytime running light strips, that mount on the upper A-frames, are NOT a problem in that regard.
Problems from Interfering with the CAN Bus - As the guy in the video says, this can happen with certain installations - especially cheap or excessive LED's. I have the Custom Dynamics LED high brake/running lights, the Signal Dynamics Wig-Wag brake modulator, and the TricLED high-density DRL's installed. NONE of these cause any problem with the CAN bus. If adding a bunch of LED effect lights, I would use a separate fuse bus, taking the power directly off the battery, which should avoid any problem. As the guy in the above video said, just don't tap into any power source that seems handy. If using TricLED products, I would check with their customer support folks with any specific installation concerns. They have very good customer support.
Last edited by robmorg; 10-05-2016 at 04:09 PM.
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Originally Posted by akspyderman
Lights are good. I am one of the few that rides with high beams on all the time. We don't ride in the dark here (to cold on those Oct/Nov nights), so it is mostly day time operation.
The high beams help to avoid the "flashing" that appears to take place when the goes over a bump in the road.
I would think and hope that MOST Spyder and motorcycle riders run with high beams on all the time, regardless of some of the comments posted here on the forum from time to time. It makes sense from a safety perspective.
I always have both high beams and fog lights on. The two exceptions are when approaching oncoming traffic at night, or while stuck in stop-and-go traffic during the day.
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Originally Posted by vtrider
I have LED's on the back of my spyder running/brake/ turn and they are bright. Also, I have side markers, and red/amber on my front fenders. I want to be seen.
See pictures: FRONT FENDER+ SIDE LED'S 001.jpg LED'S lights on a 2014RTS-SE6 005.jpg LED'S lights on a 2014RTS-SE6 010.jpg Deanna
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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LED lighting too much
Maybe I slept through the video, but what was his point? He talked about a Lady trying to go to Alaska and having a problem, a VCM problem. So what was the fix,problem and/or solution? He disabled a trunk light, how did he know to do that? What was the problem, bad wiring,excessive voltage/amp draw? The video poster named several names, along with statements of cheap imports, but some suppliers were ok,so what is it? The video poster titled the video as tips, what tips? I really got bored with his talk and driving around. If you have something to say, say it and point out the problem, easy.
I understand the CANBUS system very well and the point he was trying to make never came across.
As motorcycle owners/riders we like to make the bike our own. If their is a problem share the knowledge, we all like to learn. I spend a lot on my bikes and enjoy them while riding and the tinkering that goes along with it.
I don't think the video author finished his work and wants me to remove my lights, He should not talk down, but should explain his statements.
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I thought his message was pretty clear, Aracknoid.....putting cheap imported gear on your Spyder is false economy, as there is a higher likelihood that it will cause you issues in the long term.......but that's just MY interpretation.
Harrington, Australia
2021 RT Limited
Setup for Tall & Big.... 200cm/6'7", 140kg/300lbs, 37"inleg.
HeliBars Handlebars
Brake rubber removed to lower pedal for easier long leg/Size 15 EEEEW boot access.
Ikon (Aussie) shocks all round.
Russell Daylong seat 2” taller than stock (in Sunbrella for Aussie heat & water resistance)
Goodyear Duragrip 165/60 fronts (18psi) - provides extra 1/2” ground clearance.
Kenda Kanine rear.
2021 RT Limited , Brake pedal rubber removed for ease of accessing pedal with size 15 boots. Red
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No lights on the Spyder are connected to, powered by, or controlled by, the CAN bus. The closest are the turn signals. They are directly controlled and powered by the cluster, which is connected to the CAN bus.
2014 Copper RTS
Tri-Axis bars, CB, BajaRon sway bar & shock adjusters, SpyderPop's Bumpskid, NBV peg brackets, LED headlights and modulator, Wolo trumpet air horns, trailer hitch, custom trailer harness, high mount turn signals, Custom Dynamics brake light, LED turn signal lights on mirrors, LED strip light for a dash light, garage door opener, LED lights in frunk, trunk, and saddlebags, RAM mounts and cradles for tablet (for GPS) and phone (for music), and Smooth Spyder belt tensioner.
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Looks good, Bob. I especially like your amber fender lighting. And those bump skid LED's look bright enough to attract some attention in the daytime.
HERE is what the front of my Spyder with DRL's looks like in the bright sunlight, and at dusk.
Last edited by robmorg; 10-06-2016 at 12:15 PM.
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we have #182 feet of LED lights on my Spyder & that's not counting what we have on the RT622 trailer.
light it up...........................................
Redneck Diva
Member of the Southern Cruisers Riding Club Chapter #213--Central Georgia
Proud PGR rider
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Harrington, Australia
2021 RT Limited
Setup for Tall & Big.... 200cm/6'7", 140kg/300lbs, 37"inleg.
HeliBars Handlebars
Brake rubber removed to lower pedal for easier long leg/Size 15 EEEEW boot access.
Ikon (Aussie) shocks all round.
Russell Daylong seat 2” taller than stock (in Sunbrella for Aussie heat & water resistance)
Goodyear Duragrip 165/60 fronts (18psi) - provides extra 1/2” ground clearance.
Kenda Kanine rear.
2021 RT Limited , Brake pedal rubber removed for ease of accessing pedal with size 15 boots. Red
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