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    What rear tire options are available for the F3?

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    The rear tire on all Spyder models and years is the same size so you have the same options as all other Spyders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedStar View Post
    What rear tire options are available for the F3?
    Unless the rear fender is very close to the OEM tire the General Altimax RT 43 in 215/60-15 would be an excellent alternative ......Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedStar View Post
    What rear tire options are available for the F3?
    The correct F3 rear tire size is a 225/50 r15 either use a Toyo or Kumho for good grip and wear, do not go back to the Kenda its grap

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    I've been pretty happy with the increased traction and high quality provided by the Yokohama S-Drive I have on my F3S. I have installed a good number of these for customers. They generally balance with less than 1 oz. Have had several that needed zero weights. Great high performance tire option for the spyders.

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    This will be my next tire



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    Quote Originally Posted by jcthorne View Post
    I've been pretty happy with the increased traction and high quality provided by the Yokohama S-Drive I have on my F3S. I have installed a good number of these for customers. They generally balance with less than 1 oz. Have had several that needed zero weights. Great high performance tire option for the spyders.
    Which size exactly? Thx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny pop View Post
    Which size exactly? Thx.
    205/55 ZR15

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    Quote Originally Posted by _..stiffler.. View Post
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    Looks like a great option. Unfortunately its not available in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcthorne View Post
    Looks like a great option. Unfortunately its not available in the US.
    I had purchased one when they were still available here but didn't get it installed before my 13 burned. I wound up selling it to a friend since I wasn't sure if the 14 was going to have the same tire size. She still has it on her Spyder and says it handles great and has worn well. I wish they sold them here still.

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    Edit - it was a 16" I found - bloody google!!

    Can't find them in the UK, the T1-R is more common here and could well be my next rear tire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcthorne View Post
    I've been pretty happy with the increased traction and high quality provided by the Yokohama S-Drive I have on my F3S. I have installed a good number of these for customers. They generally balance with less than 1 oz. Have had several that needed zero weights. Great high performance tire option for the spyders.
    I like the experience you have wrote about. It speaks volumes about what to expect. The idea of little or no weights is a real plus. Could you tell me a good source to acquire this tire please? My original tire is junk, wear bars were showing in the middle of the tire after 4,000 miles. The fronts are ok, but I might change them out too. What suggestions do you have for them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedStar View Post
    I like the experience you have wrote about. It speaks volumes about what to expect. The idea of little or no weights is a real plus. Could you tell me a good source to acquire this tire please? My original tire is junk, wear bars were showing in the middle of the tire after 4,000 miles. The fronts are ok, but I might change them out too. What suggestions do you have for them?
    I cant find the s drive in 225/50/15. Just 205/50/15 or 205/55/15.

    Any ideas?

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    I was strongly considering Yokohama s drive but was told by the Can-Am dealer the beads are different on the car tires and don't fit correctly.
    Do you think they're just feeding me a line of

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    I cant find the s drive in 225/50/15. Just 205/50/15 or 205/55/15.

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    205/55 ZR15
    Answer is as above from JC. To cut a lot of threads short, the Yoko S-Drive 205/55/15 works out almost exactly the same size as the OEM Kenda 225/50/15 when fitted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedStar View Post
    I like the experience you have wrote about. It speaks volumes about what to expect. The idea of little or no weights is a real plus. Could you tell me a good source to acquire this tire please? My original tire is junk, wear bars were showing in the middle of the tire after 4,000 miles. The fronts are ok, but I might change them out too. What suggestions do you have for them?
    We purchase through an arrangement with Discount Tire. They supply the tire and mount on bare rim. We do the balance and install on the bike. Discount is not equipped to R&R the rear rim on a Spyder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIM W View Post
    I was strongly considering Yokohama s drive but was told by the Can-Am dealer the beads are different on the car tires and don't fit correctly.
    Do you think they're just feeding me a line of
    Short answer - yes. Again, to summarise lots of threads on here over the years, the spyder wheels have exactly the same bead as car wheels. They are not M/C wheels.

    The OEM Kenda tyre are 'badged' as M/C tyres but are in fact car tyres in how they fit the rim. Construction of the tread I don't know about, but if I was to guess would say they are are a car tire effectively.

    The upshot of all this is you can fit car tyres if you want, but your dealer may refuse to fit them for you. Hence all the tutorials/videos on how to remove the back wheel yourself.

    I for one will be doing my own rear tire change when the time comes and fitting either the S-Drive or a Toyo. I really like JCs idea of an R888 if we can get a size to fit. R888s run big in my experience from the Mitsubishi EVO tuning scene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIM W View Post
    I was strongly considering Yokohama s drive but was told by the Can-Am dealer the beads are different on the car tires and don't fit correctly.
    Do you think they're just feeding me a line of
    The bead profiles on Can-Am rims ARE MADE for car tire beads!!

    Car tires will & do fit perfectly, because the Can-Am rims & car tire beads were made for each other, but any other tire with a motorcycle bead WILL NOT FIT SAFELY!!

    So when it comes to dishing the BS, any dealer who's telling you that car tires won't fit because their beads aren't correct is right up there with the best BS artist, &/or either lying knowingly thru their teeth or so ignorant you really shouldn't even let them look at your Spyder!!

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    Way too soon for me to post here, but when the tyme comes, Y wyll have my dealer Ynstall whatever he has in stock. I ayn't set up to do my own tyre work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyboymorton View Post
    Answer is as above from JC. To cut a lot of threads short, the Yoko S-Drive 205/55/15 works out almost exactly the same size as the OEM Kenda 225/50/15 when fitted.
    In height yes. But almost an inch narrower. May not be much but when looking at it. Looks like alot. 205 IMO would look funny and perform a bit different.

    Anyone have any pics of them side by side on the vehicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _..stiffler.. View Post
    In height yes. But almost an inch narrower. May not be much but when looking at it. Looks like alot. 205 IMO would look funny and perform a bit different.

    Anyone have any pics of them side by side on the vehicle.

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    No in width they are nearly the same too. The NOMINAL size numbers are different. The ACTUAL dimensions are only 1/8 inch narrower tread width on the Yoko and contact patch is actually wider.

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    Just ordered the Yoko S-Drive!

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    The first number is the tire width in millimeters. The difference between the tires is 20 mm or just over 3/4 inch. The second number is the sidewall height as a percentage of the width, that is the first number. The overall height of the tire is the last number in inches, the bead diameter, plus two times the second number. In doing the calculations you have to remember to convert the dimensions into common units.

    225 - 205 = 20 mm = 0.787" nominal difference in width

    (Width × height ratio × 2 / 25.4) + bead diameter = nominal tire height in inches
    (205 × 55% × 2 / 25.4) + 15 = 23.88
    (225 × 50% × 2 / 25.4) + 15 = 23.86

    Although they are close to the same height, somewhere the nominal tread width is different by over 3/4 inch.

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    ^^ That's all fine when you are talking nominal tire sizes, but some tire manufacturers base their tire labelling on the bare tire carcass, then they overlay the tread & sidewall protective layers onto that carcass, resulting in a measurably 'larger' tire; while others base their tire labelling on the nearest nominal size once all that extra rubber has been added!!

    So to compare exact tire dimensions, you really need to check the physical measurements/specs of the particular tires themselves - one brand of tire that might be labelled 215/55x15 because that's what the naked carcass measured can actually be very close in size or possibly even slightly larger than another brand of tire labelled 225/50x15 simply because that second manufacturer based their labelling on the fully wrapped & finished tire!!

    You'd think that using a standard labelling system would mean that different tires labelled with the same nominal size would be close in size, but until there are mandated & enforced measuring conventions in place, some manufacturers will try to use the potential differences between what it's measured in this instance/by this method vs what labelled size will work to their advantage! Sorry, but that's just how the Mercedes' bends!
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