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    Default 1330 -hydraulic valve actuators ?

    assume i have hydr. lifters . never thought till now. 998's dont.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joyce47 View Post
    assume i have hydr. lifters . never thought till now. 998's dont.
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    Not sure how they work. They may be a disk system here by the looks for them.

    valve assy.jpg

    I could find nothing else but these in the breakdown. It looks like the black part is what makes contact with the cams.

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    Hydraulic lifters was one of the promoted features of the 1330 engine. Never have to shim the valves again.

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    ...Not that the 998s seemed to need much adjusting...
    I know a rider with over 123,000 miles on his GS: no adjustments!
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    They say hydraulic, but darned if I can see how they did it.

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    Default VALVE ADJUSTMENTS

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    ...Not that the 998s seemed to need much adjusting...
    I know a rider with over 123,000 miles on his GS: no adjustments!
    . But how many owners got NERVOUS un-necessarily and had them checked at 14,000 & 28,000 etc and PAID $ 600.00 + ( hoping the Stealer actually did it ?????? )...........jmho........Mike

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    I'm pretty sure that there are 998s out there that could use a bit of tinkering under the valve covers.
    But for most folks; I'll bet that 50,000 miles would not be a risky proposition...
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    Default Hydraulic Lash Adjusters

    Hydraulic lash adjusters are used on double overhead cam engines instead of lifters because of the cramped space in the cylinder head. The 1998 Honda Nighthawk 750 I once owned had them. They are nothing new and beat the heck out of bucket shims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by den1953 View Post
    Hydraulic lash adjusters are used on double overhead cam engines instead of lifters because of the cramped space in the cylinder head. The 1998 Honda Nighthawk 750 I once owned had them. They are nothing new and beat the heck out of bucket shims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Humphreys View Post



    They say hydraulic, but darned if I can see how they did it.
    Not sure what you mean? The exploded view of parts in a previous post shows the internals of the hydraulic lifter. They are not any different than almost every modern car on the road today. Really simple tech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by den1953 View Post
    Hydraulic lash adjusters are used on double overhead cam engines instead of lifters because of the cramped space in the cylinder head. The 1998 Honda Nighthawk 750 I once owned had them. They are nothing new and beat the heck out of bucket shims.
    Hydraulic lifters are not compatible with high revs. So the maximum rpm the engine is designed to rev at will most likely determine if a solid lifter or hydraulic lifter is used.

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    As I look at the parts in the diagram Doc included, #9 is the lifter bucket that holds a small quantity of oil and #8 is the Cotter Valve that keeps the volume of oil in the lifter bucket. Not shown, I believe because of the detail of the drawing is the bore system in the buckets through which oil under pressure is pumped into the bucket but may be in the circumfrential groove in the outside of the bucket. If you blow up the drawing you can see six of twelve bores in the cyclinder head through which pressurized oil is pumped into the buckets. It is a truly simple system. Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billybovine View Post
    Hydraulic lifters are not compatible with high revs. So the maximum rpm the engine is designed to rev at will most likely determine if a solid lifter or hydraulic lifter is used.
    8100 rpm, versus 9500 rpm for the 991 series engine.

    (7500: if you're revving it up in neutral.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBros View Post
    As I look at the parts in the diagram Doc included, #9 is the lifter bucket that holds a small quantity of oil and #8 is the Cotter Valve that keeps the volume of oil in the lifter bucket. Not shown, I believe because of the detail of the drawing is the bore system in the buckets through which oil under pressure is pumped into the bucket but may be in the circumfrential groove in the outside of the bucket. If you blow up the drawing you can see six of twelve bores in the cyclinder head through which pressurized oil is pumped into the buckets. It is a truly simple system. Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. YMMV.
    They are usually grooved on the outside in the cages I have seen so that oil can be pumped into through the oil galleries. The name it has nothing in it about hydraulic. They are calling them: Valve Lifter Bucket Block.....

    Expensive little buggers - $24. each and you need 12....
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