Portable tire inflater and blown fuse!

[martiniman]

Hello,
I bought a 'Slime' patch kit and portable tire inflater some time ago. https://www.amazon.com/Slime-40001-M...slime+inflator
Knock on wood, never needed it until last week. No flat, but low tire pressure after riding in some incredible high heat. Anyways, thought perfect time to break it out and put some air in the tires. I had done the 5 amp fuse change where the cigarette adapter in the trunk is hot even when key turned off. Anyhow, compressor worked for just a few seconds and then boom, blown fuse. Two questions for all the knowledgeable folks out there.
Any recommendations on a different compressor that won't blow?
Any recommendations on other changes you can do to prevent the blown fuse?
Thanks in advance!

[granpa in Cincy]

go to cycle gear.com and search "mini air compressor" . They have one for $19.99 that works.

The picture doesn't show the cigarette plug for back trunk, but mine came with one plus the other two shown in the picture.

[martiniman]

go to cycle gear.com and search "mini air compressor" . They have one for $19.99 that works.

The picture doesn't show the cigarette plug for back trunk, but mine came with one plus the other two shown in the picture.

No problem with blown fuse? Thanks for quick reply!

[granpa in Cincy]

No problem with blown fuse? Thanks for quick reply!

No problem!! It works as expected. It isn't very fast though.

[jwulf74]

I got a Harley inflator and run it off of the battery tender plug on the bike. It is fused direct to the battery. It seems to work well the few times I have needed it.

[SpyderCruiser]

I got a Harley inflator and run it off of the battery tender plug on the bike. It is fused direct to the battery. It seems to work well the few times I have needed it.

This is what I do also. Most tire inflators draw way more then 5 amps and will blow that fuse. Also the wire run to the back of the Spyder is only 16 gauge and most of the power will be lost in the wiring due to voltage drop. Battery tender makes an adapter that turns the battery tender plug into a cigarette lighter socket, then plug your inflator into that.

[Bob Denman]

I think that the fuse was simply doing it's job...
This thread is floating around, and offers a different option:
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...d-one-of-these

[WA5VHU]

According to the answered questions on Amazon:
This pump requires a 15 AMP circuit on your motorcycle. It surges to 15amp when you turn it on, then drops back to 5amp. If you plug it into a 5amp circuit, it will immediately blow the fuse.

[Bob Denman]

Yup! That sounds just about right...

But before you go trading in that 5 amp fuse for something stronger... DON'T!

[knobby]

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[PapaHotel]

Any chance of running an air tap off of the onboard air shock compressor (RT) ? That way I would only have to pack a hose. Or is that just asking for trouble?

[Cruzr Joe]

Any chance of running a tap off of the onboard air shock compressor (RT) ? That way I would only have to pack a hose.

I don't believe that will work and it could mess up more than you want.

when you get here i will show you some options

Joe

[Bob Denman]

Bad idea...

[martiniman]

Whatever happened to the standalone tire inflater Lamonster used to sell? Found my old order. It was called "Lamonster Approved Air Pack" Charge it at home or hotel and you don't need to worry about fuses. I particularly like how you can dial in the exact pressure needed. I really liked it. No longer available? Something wrong with it? I didn't see it on his site.

[wyliec]

Whatever happened to the standalone tire inflater Lamonster used to sell? Found my old order. It was called "Lamonster Approved Air Pack" Charge it at home or hotel and you don't need to worry about fuses. I particularly like how you can dial in the exact pressure needed. I really liked it. No longer available? Something wrong with it? I didn't see it on his site.

He quit selling those, as they had problems.

This is similar to what Lamont sold:
https://www.amazon.com/Fineed-Hand-H...5VN7JE262GC4QQ

I still have mine from Lamont, and it still works. If the charging part of the inflator quits working, I can then use the inflator cord plugged into a dash mounted powerlet outlet (rated 15 amps). The powerlet outlets I have dash mounted on my 2008GS are connected the way boiler animal describes, with proper size wiring and fuses.

[BoilerAnimal]

Joe from Squared Away recommended this awhile back. http://www.aerostich.com/aerostich-mini-compressor.html

I'm going to get one. Sounds like just what you would want to pack for an emergency.


As for putting in a larger fuse, for example, replacing a 5 amp fuse with a 10 or 15 amp fuse to run a small compressor.........DON'T!!!!

A fuse is designed to protect the wire, not the equipment being operated. The ONLY thing a fuse cares about is the amount of amps that is being drawn on its circuit. A 5 amp fuse will open (blow) when more than the allowable current is being carried on its circuit. This is because the wire in that circuit is too small to carry a larger amount of current, also referred to as a load, without overheating and melting the insulation, causing a short circuit and quite possibly a fire.

This will result in ruining more than just your day!

If you want to run a compressor or anything else that requires a larger fuse than you have available, the best thing to do is to run a separate circuit directly to your battery of wire of a large enough gauge to handle the required current. You must include an inline fuse to protect this circuit. The wire gauge is determined by the load and the length of the circuit. Remember, the smaller the gauge number, the bigger the wire is and the more current it can safely carry.

[Bob Denman]

He quit selling those, as they had problems...
...I still have mine from Lamont, and it still works...

That's a shame. I still use mine, and it seems to be working just fine.

[JayBros]

I use this compressor, http://www.harley-davidson.com/store...sor-with-light. Yes, it's a Harley product but is very well made, is fused and plugged the same as my Battery Tender Jr battery pigtail, and comes with a flexible valve stem extender for the rear tire. It aslo fits well in the small Hopnel trunk bag in which I carry all my tools and emergency stuff.

[Road-Kill]

I kept a good small bicycle pump in my fronk until recently. I then switched to a "Stop-n-Go" plugging kit with those tiny CO2 canisters. Recently (on another thread) I had a Stop-n-Go vulcanizing kit that was less then worthless and switched to the old fashioned rubber wormy type. Anyway....as far as air is concerned I just keep about 7 of those metal canisters and the stem to use them. They are small, unnoticeable and will fill (as advertised) an MC tire to full pressure. I never liked those electric pumps for the reason you encountered. I have friends who have used those electric pump gizmos and they were near worthless as well. Simple works so simple I keep it. My thoughts.

Amazon ratings shows these electric pumps low in customer satisfaction...…..

[Wildrice]

go to cycle gear.com and search "mini air compressor" . They have one for $19.99 that works.

The picture doesn't show the cigarette plug for back trunk, but mine came with one plus the other two shown in the picture.

There are lots of good products that qualify for portable tire air pumps but this is one I won't recommend. Lamonster had a nice battery chargeable mini air pump that worked well------Except it won't hold a charge while being stored for over one month. I spoke with Lamonster's tech & he said to charge it before I went out on any long trips. Not exactly what I had in mind when I purchased this mini air pump for close to $50. I'll discount mine $25.00 if anyone is interested in using this application for a tire air pump.Lamonster mini electric inflator.jpg
Darrell

[Road-Kill]

Exactly what I just stated in my post.
Those electric pumps are worthless when needed and why I went with those tiny CO2 cartridges.

There are lots of good products that qualify for portable tire air pumps but this is one I won't recommend. Lamonster had a nice battery chargeable mini air pump that worked well------Except it won't hold a charge while being stored for over one month. I spoke with Lamonster's tech & he said to charge it before I went out on any long trips. Not exactly what I had in mind when I purchased this mini air pump for close to $50. I'll discount mine $25.00 if anyone is interested in using this application for a tire air pump.Lamonster mini electric inflator.jpg
Darrell

[Wildrice]

Whatever happened to the standalone tire inflater Lamonster used to sell? Found my old order. It was called "Lamonster Approved Air Pack" Charge it at home or hotel and you don't need to worry about fuses. I particularly like how you can dial in the exact pressure needed. I really liked it. No longer available? Something wrong with it? I didn't see it on his site.

I'll sell you mine for $25 + $5 shipping. Make that $25 including shipping to lower 48 states. The pump has a really neat feature. When the battery is dead plugging it into 12 v outlet won't make it work until the battery reaches a certain % of charge--which might take 20-30 minutes. How fun--huh :-(
Darrell
PS: The other 8-10 items I purchased from Lamonster worked great :-)

[JayBros]

Joe from Squared Away recommended this awhile back. http://www.aerostich.com/aerostich-mini-compressor.html

I'm going to get one. Sounds like just what you would want to pack for an emergency...

Looks like a pretty good compressor and Aerostich has a good reputation, but, with its chuck, for the rear wheel you'll need a valve stem extender like one of these unless you've installed a different type of stem: https://www.harley-davidson.com/stor...stem-extension.

[johnsimion]

I had a new cigarette lighter connected directly to the battery. It comes out in the frunk and has a switch on it so it's only on if you need it on. This avoids messing with any of the Spyder's delicate electronics and gets around the amp problem for an inflator.

[johnsimion]

Exactly what I just stated in my post.
Those electric pumps are worthless when needed and why I went with those tiny CO2 cartridges.

This sounds like a great idea even though I've never seen or heard of it before. How do you connect the CO2 cartridge to inflate your tire? What's the connection? And how many CO2 cartridges would it take to fill a tire, anyway?