TWISTIES

[Justacruisin]

Rode up to Arkansas last weekend with 4 Harley riders. They would take the curves 10 - 20 miles over the speed limit. I would take them 10 miles hour slower.
what i'm I doing wrong. I thought I would run off the rode.
HELP

JUSTACRUISIN (Slowly)

[Fjrwillie]

Rode up to Arkansas last weekend with 4 Harley riders. They would take the curves 10 - 20 miles over the speed limit. I would take them 10 miles hour slower.
what i'm I doing wrong. I thought I would run off the rode.
HELP

JUSTACRUISIN (Slowly)

How long you been riding the Spyder ??

Were you comfortable with the speed you were doing. Worst thing is ride trying to keep up, putting you out of your comfort zone. They will wait for you to catch up.

What specifically kept you from riding at the higher speed.

Willie

[blacklightning]

Rode up to Arkansas last weekend with 4 Harley riders. They would take the curves 10 - 20 miles over the speed limit. I would take them 10 miles hour slower.
what i'm I doing wrong. I thought I would run off the rode.
HELP

JUSTACRUISIN (Slowly)

It is something that will just have to come with experience. I have had my spyder for 20 months now, and have yet to come across a harley that can keep up with me in the twisties. I know there are some out there, I just haven't come across any yet.

[Highwayman2013]

It will come with time. You must lean your body into the turns and you will be the one waiting for them. A Bajaron swaybar and a laser alignment sure helps too.

[Pirate looks at --]

Push Push Pull. Push with yiyr outside hand, push with your outside foot, and pull with the inside hand, all while leaning into the turn!

[Chupaca]

A ryde is not a race and you are doing fine .stay in your comfort zone and be safe. Those that do get there did not do it overnight. It takes time and practice. I can double the posted speed but have come to find it is more fun to take them in stride. You will get better....

[Justacruisin]

How long you been riding the Spyder ??

Were you comfortable with the speed you were doing. Worst thing is ride trying to keep up, putting you out of your comfort zone. They will wait for you to catch up.

What specifically kept you from riding at the higher speed.

Willie

No problem with straight and long curves. 70-80 mph no problem. Tighter curves fills like the going to drift off the road. Or through me off the bike like ridding a JET-SKI.



I may be pushing and pulling too hard on the handle bars. or not putting pressure on the right foot.
ridding the Can-Am, 1 1/2 years. rode Harleys for 35 years.

[PrairieSpyder]

First - ride your own ride. You're not in competition.

If you want to go faster, shift your body weight to the outside of the curve.

Don't forget to steer!

[Bob Denman]

First - ride your own ride. You're not in competition.

If you want to go faster, shift your body weight to the outside of the curve.

Don't forget to steer!

If you're racing: you need to be off the street...

[AY4B]

First - ride your own ride. You're not in competition.

If you want to go faster, shift your body weight to the inside of the curve.

Don't forget to steer!

Fixed

[PrairieSpyder]

First - ride your own ride. You're not in competition.

If you want to go faster, shift your body weight to the inside of the curve.

Don't forget to steer!

Fixed

Tnanks!

[Pirate looks at --]

Tnanks!

Thank goodness! I was looking to see them flying right off the motorcycle!

[Bob Denman]

Actually; it depends on how you want to explain the process...
You plant your "outside leg", and put your weight on that peg (or floorboard...).
And then lean to the inside of the turn!

[AY4B]

Always look where you want to go on a twisty. It helps to shift your outside foot as far to the outside as you can, sometimes I will have my heal hanging on the outside of the footboard. Even better is to get some highway pegs. Lamonster sells some pretty nice ones. You can use the pegs to almost stand up on that outside leg while you lean in. It gives you a wider stance which I find quite helpful on the twisties. Also keep your revs up. the main thing is to stay in your comfort zone. There is always someone that can pass you up. I am leading a ride on Saturday for East Texas Spyder Ryders from Rockwall to Commerce. We will be taking some twisties, You are welcome to come and get some practice. http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...Eggs-July-30th
Doesnt Lamonster sell a Tshirt that says If you pass me, I wasnt racing?

[ThreeWheels]

I know this is a repeat of what others have said, but the first and most important safety tip is to ride your own ride. If you're comfortable with your speed, then don't push it.
Second, others have described the technique for cornering on a Spyder which is different than riding a two wheeler.
Third, if you insist, there are technical modifications you can make which can increase your ability to turn corners.
The Baja Ron swaybar and/or Elka shock absorbers minimize the amount of body roll and help increase cornering speed.

Before spending any money to modify your spyder, just as yourself "Why ?" Is it so bad riding the way you do ?

As always, my free advice comes with a double your money back guarantee.

[PaladinLV]

Do you have a BajaRon sway bar and aluminum links? Laser alignment?

I typically can do twisties 10-20 over limit and out maneuver my HOG friends.

AJ

No problem with straight and long curves. 70-80 mph no problem. Tighter curves fills like the going to drift off the road. Or through me off the bike like ridding a JET-SKI.



I may be pushing and pulling too hard on the handle bars. or not putting pressure on the right foot.
ridding the Can-Am, 1 1/2 years. rode Harleys for 35 years.

[Justacruisin]

I have the Baja Ron Sway bar, had the laser alignment three weeks ago. I think ill add foot pegs and new Elka shocks.


Thanks to All.

Justacruisin

[Lastchance]

So edmarble your saying more body roll and less weight on the inside tire makes for better cornering ????

[SpyderAnn01]

Maybe its just me but it doesn't sound like a good idea to tell someone who isn't comfortable on curves to put their feet on highway pegs.

[Bob Denman]

[PrairieSpyder]

Maybe its just me but it doesn't sound like a good idea to tell someone who isn't comfortable on curves to put their feet on highway pegs.

, too!

[Motorcycledave]

Sounds like your still learning how to control a Spyder,
they will corner fast but you best get used to holding on
and leaning into the turn, DON'T counter steer...
keep practicing.
Dave

Rode up to Arkansas last weekend with 4 Harley riders. They would take the curves 10 - 20 miles over the speed limit. I would take them 10 miles hour slower.
what i'm I doing wrong. I thought I would run off the rode.
HELP

JUSTACRUISIN (Slowly)

[BajaRon]

There are so many aspects involved in getting through twisties quickly that it's difficult to adequately assess why someone isn't doing as well as they think they should. The machine, in this case the Spyder, is just one aspect.

As with everything in life, you cannot excel beyond the weakest link. If that is the machine you're riding then that is where the improvements need to go. But the rider is also a huge factor.

The things I commonly see are;

1- Braking late and Hugging the inside line going into the turn. It's the natural thing to do and will get you into a lot of trouble every time. You must always start from the outside line, apex to the inside line and then accelerate going out of the turn as you fade back to the outside line as you exit the curve.

2- Looking right in front of your Spyder and looking where you DON'T want to go. Instead, you need to look well ahead of where you are and focus on where you WANT to go.

3- Trying to keep up with a better rider. Not riding within your comfort zone. Basically, getting in over your head.

All of these issues come very naturally. What comes naturally is usually the exact WRONG thing to do. Without understanding the dynamics of a curve and how it needs to be systematically approached. Going faster may well be a very bad idea.

Don't get me wrong. I am no expert. I've just spent a bit of time studying the techniques needed to do it right. And they make all the difference in the world.

[Mexican]

Just came back from my 3800 mile ride 3 days ago, my wife rode the Spyder, my daughter the Ninja500 and i rode the Rocket, i had trouble keeping up with both of them, my wife was taking the curves at Bear Tooth Pass like a demon, like the others say, practice makes perfect!

[Koop]

One of the attributes a Spyder shares with a motorcycle is the fact that the rider can affect the center of mass. Dropping your shoulder to the inside of the curve and lowering your upper body will lower the center of mass and reduce roll. This keeps all three wheels planted.

When I road raced motorcycles, I often had my upper body next to the fuel tank on the inside of the curve and my head at the level of the clip-ons. With a knee slider on the pavement this was a very stable and fast way to take a turn.