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    Prayers for the lost life's the injured and their families. Another senseless shooting.
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    they are now saying 50 dead
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    Prayers to the victims and their families. This world is a scary place!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Netminder View Post
    Prayers to the victims and their families. This world is a scary place!


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    I know the Politically correct world does not want to hear this but, This was a TERRORIST ATTACK!

    I do send prayers out to the families.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ES44AC View Post
    I know the Politically correct world does not want to hear this but, This was a TERRORIST ATTACK!

    I do send prayers out to the families.
    Yep, until the world can get over the PC crap and start calling it what it is this stuff will continue.

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    That's insane....'s to all the families and friends there....
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    Hi Netminder,

    Re: This world is a scary place!

    In reality IMO it is an intolerant place. There is no room for this type of hatred in my world.

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    Senseless and another sign of the times we are living in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryB View Post
    Hi Netminder,

    Re: This world is a scary place!

    In reality IMO it is an intolerant place. There is no room for this type of hatred in my world.
    Hi Jerry,
    While with you: is it okay to "hate the haters"; or do should they get our pity?

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    Hi Bob,

    Re: is it okay to "hate the haters"; or do should they get our pity?

    I hope that I never get to the point that I hate anyone. But, this guy will get no pity from me.

    Jerry Baumchen

    PS) And I do not blame this on Islam. There are good and there are bad muslims in this world of ours.
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    There are good AND bad folks everywhere...
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    Hoping that God's love can change the direction we moving in... Prayers to the family..
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    17 Facts About The Orlando Shooter That Every American Should Know

    by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,
    America is in shock. On Sunday, a 29-year-old Islamic terrorist named Omar Mateen shot 102 people at a gay club known as Pulse in the heart of Orlando, Florida. 49 of those that were shot died, and 53 were wounded. So how in the world did this happen?
    Well, when you combine radical political correctness with extreme government incompetence and the dramatic growth of radical Islam inside the United States, you create an environment which is absolutely primed for Islamic terror.
    The truth is that the FBI knew about this guy well in advance. In fact, they had even interviewed him three separate times over the years. And at one point the government had been investigating the mosque that he had been attending, but that investigation was shut down by Hillary Clinton’s State Department. Mateen had told the FBI that he hoped to be a martyr someday, and those were not just idle words. His twisted ideology fueled his actions, and so the choices that he ultimately made should not have come as a surprise to law enforcement authorities. But now that this has happened, will it change the way that the government approaches Islamic terror?
    The following are 17 facts about the Orlando shooter that every American should know…
    #1 According to the Director of the FBI, Mateen had “links to al-Qaida, Hezbollah, and the Islamic State“.
    #2 Mateen’s father has openly expressed support for the Taliban on YouTube.
    #3 Despite those links to terror organizations, Mateen was allowed to work “as a security guard at a local courthouse“.
    #4 Mateen wasn’t directly hired by the courthouse. Instead, he was officially an employee of the largest security services company in the world
    The Orlando nightclub terrorist who pledged allegiance to ISIS worked almost a decade for a major Department of Homeland Security contractor, raising alarms that ISIS sympathizers and agents have infiltrated the federal agency set up after 9/11 to combat terrorists.

    Officials say Omar Mir Seddique Mateen, an Afghan-American who held two firearms licenses and a security officer license, was employed by the security firm G4S Secure Solutions USA Inc. since Sept. 10, 2007. The Jupiter, Fla.-based company merged with the Wackenhut Corp. after 9/11 and assumed federal contracts.
    #5 It turns out that this U.S. subsidiary of G4S is a company that works very closely with “the Department of Homeland Security, the US Army, and federal and local law enforcement.”
    #6 Mateen’s ex-wife says that he would repeatedly beat her while they were married.
    #7 He started to become radicalized after separating from his first wife. While they were together, she said that he didn’t show much interest in religion.
    #8 He made pilgrimages to Saudi Arabia in 2011 and 2012.
    #9 He claimed to personally know the Boston Marathon Bombers.
    #10 According to the FBI, Mateen has “been on the radar before“, he was interviewed by them three separate times, and they conducted a 10 month investigation of his activities in 2013.
    #11 He is being described as “unhinged and unstable” by his former coworkers.
    #12 Mateen once declared that he hoped to martyr himself someday, and the FBI knew all about this.
    #13 Despite everything that the federal government knew about Mateen, he was still permitted to legally buy guns just last week.
    #14 In an odd twist, it also turns out that Mateen was a registered Democrat.
    #15 A respected Islamic scholar was urging Muslims in Orlando to “get rid” of homosexuals just a couple of months before this shooting took place
    Farrokh Sekaleshfar – a British-born doctor and Muslim scholar – has gained a following by urging Muslims to ‘get rid of’ homosexuals.

    And in April, he took his speech titled ‘How to deal with the phenomenon of homosexuality’ to the Husseini Islamic Center in Sanford, just outside Orlando, Florida.

    Two months later, 29-year-old Omar Mateen carried out the worst massacre in US history by opening fire on a gay club in the same city.
    #16 Hillary Clinton’s State Department shut down an investigation of the mosque that Mateen attends because it “unfairly singled out Muslims“.
    #17 Just moments before the attack, Mateen reportedly called 911 to swear his allegiance to ISIS.
    When is it going to finally sink in for our politically correct politicians that Islamic terror is a major threat?
    There are lots of other Omar Mateens out there. And as radical Islam continues to spread both inside and outside this country, the threat is only going to get a lot worse.
    Barack ***** is a perfect example of just how clueless many of our top politicians are about all of this. During his speech to the nation, he did not connect this act of terror with radical Islam in any way, shape or form. But the only reason why Mateen did what he did was because of his worldview. He felt perfectly justified in picking up a weapon and gunning down dozens of people, and martyrdom was a reward in his eyes. If he had not been immersed in the world of radical Islam for years, he never would have done such a thing.
    Wrong beliefs lead to wrong actions. We see this in action all around us every day, but most of the time the consequences are not as dramatic as we just witnessed in Orlando.
    As I have been warning about for some time now, Islamic terror attacks inside the United States are going to continue to get worse.
    If you think what happened in Orlando was bad, just wait until these terrorists get their hands on chemical, biological or nuclear weapons.
    The detonation of a single weapon of mass destruction in one of our major cities would instantly change life as we know it for every man, woman and child in this entire nation.
    The ideology that fuels these terrorists continues to grow, and over time it is inevitable that they will acquire increasingly more powerful weapons.
    So yes, gunning down dozens of people in a crowded nightclub is an atrocity that is so evil that it is hard to find words to describe it.
    But someday we will see far, far worse in this nation, and at this point we are completely unprepared to deal with that reality.


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    It is interesting to note that in all the shooting in recent years, that either the shooter or the shooter's family were democrats. Such was the case in the FL shooter as well.
    As said above, thoughts and prayers go out to the families.

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    And now we find out that he was gay according to his second wife and several patrons at the gay club. IRONIC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryB View Post
    Hi Netminder,

    Re: This world is a scary place!

    In reality IMO it is an intolerant place. There is no room for this type of hatred in my world.

    Jerry Baumchen
    Totally agree with you Jerry! Every place on earth has both good a bad people.
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    Hi Cavman,

    Re: #16 Hillary Clinton’s State Department shut down an investigation of the mosque that Mateen attends because it “unfairly singled out Muslims“.

    The 'facts' are that the State Dep't. does not do investigations. Inside the borders of the US, that is the purview of the FBI.

    You have more horse-puckey in that post than any so-called facts.

    You should check your 'facts' before you cut & paste.

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    Threefeet sent this to me so I'm posting it here. She doesn't know how to "copy & paste" yet.
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    Theresa Crouse June 14, 2016
    From Orlando With Rage: Attacked By Terrorists But NOT Terrorized


    If you’re a regular reader, you’ve probably read some of my articles; I usually write about fun, informational stuff but not today. I live in Orlando, the City Beautiful. The land of flip-flops and Mickey Mouse, beaches and motorcycles, college kids and retirees.

    On Sunday, Orlando was ground zero for the largest mass shooting in US history. My city was attacked by an ISIS-affiliated terrorist, and I’m really pissed.
    Sunday morning, I went outside to walk my dogs, still half-asleep, before I turned on my TV and learned that some no-good, nut job, wife-beating jerk had decided that it was his right to judge and lethally punish a bar full of innocent people just because he didn’t like the way they lived. There were about 300 people inside Pulse Orlando, and over 1/3 of them were murdered or injured.
    Pulse had a young following, so most of the dead were in their 20s and early 30s. Kids, really. According to reports, the shooter (I refuse to name him because he was just a lowly, cowardly sheep) scoped out Downtown Disney and Pulse. He chose the club because it was a “gay club”.
    While it’s true that Pulse had a large LGBT following, it wasn’t exclusively that, nor were all the victims gay. Even if they were, they sure as hell didn’t deserve to be gunned down for it.
    Orlando is my home as well as a prime destination for vacationers of all sorts. It’s supposed to be a place of fun; a place where fantasies are real and dreams come true. Yes, I realize that’s mostly an illusion created by commercialism, but to me, it’s true. Florida is my little slice of paradise and I’m enraged that some lowly hater spilled a river of blood in my streets.
    What I’ve realized today is that the REAL illusion is the one of peace and safety that we all create.
    I’ve known that security is an illusion for a long time now. That’s why I enjoy contributing to Survivopedia; I drink my own Kool Aid. I know that world-changing events are always just right around the corner, but on Sunday, I was shoved around that corner before I’d even had my morning coffee.
    At least I was fortunate enough to live through the night; that’s more than what 49 of my fellow Orlandians were gifted with.




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    I’m sure that you’ve all been watching events unfold from afar, but let me bring it home a little bit for you. The news has been stating that they couldn’t release the names of all of the victims until the families had been notified; the truth is that families couldn’t be notified until the bodies were identified. Until just a few hours ago, they were still removing bullet-riddled corpses from Pulse.
    For nearly 24 hours after the attack, Orlando Regional Medical Center was on lock-down just trying to handle the massive influx of wounded and dead kids. Nine died after arrival and several more are still in critical condition.
    In total, 49 people were killed and another 53 were wounded. Three blocks around the club were blocked off for more than 24 hours so that bodies could be recovered without being filmed.
    Just now, as I’m writing this piece, they released the name of the final, 49th victim: Stanley Almodovar III, age 23. He was a pharmacy tech described as humble and kind. He hadn’t even started living before he was gunned down by a psycho.
    11 members of the Orlando Anarchy, our women’s football team, were there celebrating the end of the season with their friends and significant others. One of the boyfriends was killed. Another woman, a mother and wife, was there celebrating a birthday. Now she’s dead. This isn’t a faceless crime.
    We Will Stay United
    Over the years, I’ve sat in front of my television and watched as terrorists took the lives of people all over the world. I’ve felt a somewhat detached anger and sorrow for those people who lost so much, but there was always a certain degree of separation. Yesterday, that separation was shattered.
    I’ve watched as my city has responded and I’m proud. O-Town is a pretty liberal place. Our culture is diverse and our politics, like the victims in this attack, run from one end of the rainbow to the other. We have die-hard bikers and hookah-smoking hipsters. Families visit Disney and business people conduct corporate retreats.
    The one thing that we all share is that this is our home and we’ve come together grandly. There was a desperate need for O-negative and AB-positive blood and people of all races, religions, and sexual persuasions stood in line for 8 hours to donate.
    Families had nowhere to stay and hotels gave out free rooms. Restaurants gave free meals and volunteers donated countless hours of time. Business signs removed their ads and ran banners of support. Demonstrators stood on corners with signs declaring that we refuse to be drowned in despair.

    We came together in love to fight the bloody results of hate. Our flags are flying at half-mast but we are still Americans; we refuse to buckle under the weight of terrorism.
    Gun Control Is NOT the Solution
    Sadly, our situation is not the first of its kind; we already have a precedent to follow. People are going to be shocked, then, inevitably, we’re going to try to make sense of the senseless. The enemy seems like smoke, there then gone. How do we fight that?
    Whispers about gun control become roars because that’s the only way some people can think of to prevent this from happening again. We look to things that we can control, because it’s human nature in the face of tragedy. That’s happening here already.
    People on one side of the fence are screaming about the fact that the murderer, who had been interviewed twice by the FBI, bought his guns legally. Obviously (to them), gun laws need tightened.
    People on the other side of the fence (me included) are wondering if things would have been different had even one person in that club been armed. We also keep saying again and again that guns don’t kill people; people kill people.
    Chicago has the tightest gun laws in the country, as well as the highest murder rates; how are those gun laws working out for them?
    Gun regulation isn’t the answer because the only people who are going to follow the laws aren’t the ones who are going to go out and shoot people anyway. That seems to be a fact that people tend to overlook.
    The bottom line is that nobody can stop hate. You can’t fix crazy. No amount of immigration laws or gun laws, or regulations of any sort are going to stop somebody bent on committing heinous acts.
    All we can do is be alert and be prepared. We can’t let fear rule our lives but it would be naively stupid to think that something like this isn’t going to happen again because, unfortunately, it will.
    I’m glad the police killed the punk. My only regrets are that he killed so many before somebody got him and that his death was so quick.
    Orlando has its share of crime, but for the most part, I’ve always felt safe here. I still do; just now I’ll feel a little safer when I’m carrying my 9 mil, because you can bet your bottom dollar that I’ll be on high alert even as I continue to enjoy my life in the land of sandcastles and fairy princesses.
    THAT is my right, and nobody is going to take it from me without a fight.
    To all the friends and families of the victims of the Orlando shooting, you have my deepest sympathies. To everybody else, be vigilant.
    On Sunday, this happened in my town; tomorrow it could happen in yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ES44AC View Post
    I know the Politically correct world does not want to hear this but, This was a TERRORIST ATTACK!

    I do send prayers out to the families.
    Perpetrated by a man who was a natural born American and hated gays, though he very well may have been gay himself.

    It's really getting complicated, and this guy may have flat out been crazy.

    Anyway, this wasn't a case of international terrorism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vided View Post
    Take the tape off. Let's hear it.

    Question. Is profiling a bad thing? vided, this was not directed specifically at you. Well, the tape part was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flaggerphil View Post
    Perpetrated by a man who was a natural born American and hated gays, though he very well may have been gay himself.

    It's really getting complicated, and this guy may have flat out been crazy.

    Anyway, this wasn't a case of international terrorism.
    Do you say this b/c he wasn't an isis card carrying member? I don't think there is such a thing.

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    Shame on those who took an innocent post offering prayers to the families of shooting victims, and turned it into your personal soapbox for political or gun control diatribes. You should read the title of this thread, then take your crap somewhere else.

    Shame on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterP View Post
    Shame on those who took an innocent post offering prayers to the families of shooting victims, and turned it into your personal soapbox for political or gun control diatribes. You should read the title of this thread, then take your crap somewhere else.

    Shame on you.
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    They already are...
    But once again: this thread isn't about anything other than offering prayers and support to those affected families...
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