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    Default Gas strut for trunk on the RT

    Now that I have the rack on the lid of the trunk, the stock strut is no longer strong enough to hold the lid up. So, I looked on the BRP parts fiche and see they hose ya for $65 for a strut.... Has anyone replaced or added a second strut for a better price? That's just ridiculous to charge that much. I was reading the thread about the gas strut upgrade for the seat only costing about $10, was hoping to upgrade that one too. Anyone have any links or part numbers they'd care to share for the seat and the trunk struts?

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    see attached link

    http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...runk-gas-shock

    Read it all the way through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruzr Joe View Post
    see attached link

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    Read it all the way through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazo EMS2 View Post
    Ugh....I tried, I really did try to read all the way through it...Now I think I'll go shove a rusty nail in my eye...LOL... Looks like it's come down to a paint stick.

    Here are the required parts and part #s with Prices.

    This is the complete parts that are required to install a second gas shock for the rear trunk.

    708300383 Gas Shock $59.99
    708300384 Spacer $10.99 (for m6X30 bolt on top of shock)
    250300039 Ball head stud $5.99 (For Bottom of shock)
    233281414 hex Elastic Flanged Nut M6 $.72 (for ball head stud)
    M6X30 Bolt and domed head nut approx $1.50

    Total cost to do the job right 79.19 + S/H

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    thanks for the info. hope it works

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruzr Joe View Post
    Here are the required parts and part #s with Prices.

    This is the complete parts that are required to install a second gas shock for the rear trunk.

    708300383 Gas Shock $59.99
    708300384 Spacer $10.99 (for m6X30 bolt on top of shock)
    250300039 Ball head stud $5.99 (For Bottom of shock)
    233281414 hex Elastic Flanged Nut M6 $.72 (for ball head stud)
    M6X30 Bolt and domed head nut approx $1.50

    Total cost to do the job right 79.19 + S/H

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    Right on -- that's the list I went with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruzr Joe View Post
    see attached link

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    Read it all the way through.

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    Thanks Joe, you beat me to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruzr Joe View Post
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    http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...runk-gas-shock

    Read it all the way through.

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    This is what I used. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1. Only $44.90. I replaced the original because I thought it was losing its oomph. I bought a ball mount from NAPA with a 5/16" stud. I don't remember if I used an M6 or 5/16 bolt on the top end. I also added some fender washers under the nut on both ball studs because the strain of the strut was causing the plastic flange to bend.

    You also need a spacer on the top end. I used one that was close in diameter from the hardware store and shortened it to fit.
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    Regarding the Trunk support ….. if you send me the measurements of the ROD ( eye to eye ) I'll find you one at McMaste-Carr ...they sell for about $ 15.00 per strut and range from about 5lbs to 50lbs in lifting ability ( for the same size strut )…………….. Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    Regarding the Trunk support ….. if you send me the measurements of the ROD ( eye to eye ) I'll find you one at McMaste-Carr ...they sell for about $ 15.00 per strut and range from about 5lbs to 50lbs in lifting ability ( for the same size strut )…………….. Mike
    Any guess as to what shipping would be across country? They don't show shipping charges until after you hit the order button. I estimated the whole bit from MMC will be about 1/2 the price of the one from Amazon after you add the fittings. You have to add shipping to that. If you want to deal with bits and pieces you can save $$, but not everyone wants to do that. Where are the MMC struts made, China? For that price they must be.

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    sounds great my wife added cosmetic and mirror to under trunk. We find we need to add hair brush to hold up trunk;

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    Found a paint stick. Cut it to length. Wife painted it white. Works great for as often as I go into the rear trunk. Total cost...Maybe $.02 for the paint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazo EMS2 View Post
    Now that I have the rack on the lid of the trunk, the stock strut is no longer strong enough to hold the lid up. So, I looked on the BRP parts fiche and see they hose ya for $65 for a strut.... Has anyone replaced or added a second strut for a better price? That's just ridiculous to charge that much. I was reading the thread about the gas strut upgrade for the seat only costing about $10, was hoping to upgrade that one too. Anyone have any links or part numbers they'd care to share for the seat and the trunk struts?

    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorybiz View Post
    I had the same issue after I put my rack on. First tried a replacement strut and that hardly worked any better. Then I got creative, went to Home Depot and bought a spring to assist the strut, it works great. You just have to stretch the spring out 1 and a half times the length of the strut. Remove one end of the strut and slip the spring over it.spring.jpg
    I have a 2020 RTL with the added luggage rack. I'm following this thread closely.
    Pierre sells a great little device for those of you with the 2010 to 2019 model. Looks to me like a perfect solution.
    I'm hoping they someone comes out with something similar or the 2020+ models. I imagine the F3 rear trunk has a similar issue.

    https://www.canamspyderaccessories.c...-trunk-holder/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeWheels View Post
    I have a 2020 RTL with the added luggage rack. I'm following this thread closely.
    Pierre sells a great little device for those of you with the 2010 to 2019 model. Looks to me like a perfect solution.
    I'm hoping they someone comes out with something similar or the 2020+ models. I imagine the F3 rear trunk has a similar issue.

    https://www.canamspyderaccessories.c...-trunk-holder/

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    I have a template of Pierre's piece ( as shown in the pic above ).... I looked at the Fiche' for the 2020 rear trunk .... it has a similar plastic hinge assembly so I think it could fit but possibly needs a little trimming .... E-mail Pierre and ask WHY His piece won't work for 2020 + ..... Mike

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    If I understand correctly, you added a rack and now desire added lifting force?

    Consider going to two gas springs of each having a lower pressure vs one higher pressure gas spring.

    The reason being is that when the lid is closed, the gas spring is compressed and at the highest pressure and extending force. Sitting there compressed, the plastic gas spring mount at tne bottom and tne hinges are being constantly strained.

    Two gas springs, puts less stress into the plastic structure and hinges when closed.

    FWIW, the gas spring on our 2014 is now where you must lift the lid to open, but it stays up when there. Could replace the gas spring, but will more likely modify it so I can add pressure when needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMK View Post
    If I understand correctly, you added a rack and now desire added lifting force?

    Consider going to two gas springs of each having a lower pressure vs one higher pressure gas spring.

    The reason being is that when the lid is closed, the gas spring is compressed and at the highest pressure and extending force. Sitting there compressed, the plastic gas spring mount at tne bottom and tne hinges are being constantly strained.

    Two gas springs, puts less stress into the plastic structure and hinges when closed.
    ......


    Good advice here....^^^
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    I had the same issue after I put my rack on. First tried a replacement strut and that hardly worked any better. Then I got creative, went to Home Depot and bought a spring to assist the strut, it works great. You just have to stretch the spring out 1 and a half times the length of the strut. Remove one end of the strut and slip the spring over it.spring.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorybiz View Post
    I had the same issue after I put my rack on. First tried a replacement strut and that hardly worked any better. Then I got creative, went to Home Depot and bought a spring to assist the strut, it works great. You just have to stretch the spring out 1 and a half times the length of the strut. Remove one end of the strut and slip the spring over it.spring.jpg
    Hey, that's a great idea. I don't know how to get access to the strut. Is it easy ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glorybiz View Post
    I had the same issue after I put my rack on. First tried a replacement strut and that hardly worked any better. Then I got creative, went to Home Depot and bought a spring to assist the strut, it works great. You just have to stretch the spring out 1 and a half times the length of the strut. Remove one end of the strut and slip the spring over it.spring.jpg
    Quote Originally Posted by ThreeWheels View Post
    Hey, that's a great idea. I don't know how to get access to the strut. Is it easy ?
    Figured it out. Thanks glorybiz. Great idea. For about $5.00 solved the problem.

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    Looking down the hinge well with the trunk open:

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    I added a second strut to the right side and got all the parts (which are the same parts as for the other side) from cheap cycle parts all for around $60 I think.
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    In the end, all I did to my 2010 when I wrote this, was relocate the lower mounting hole for the strut. I moved the bottom hole up 3/4" and it solved the problem for FREE and took 10 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazo EMS2 View Post
    In the end, all I did to my 2010 when I wrote this, was relocate the lower mounting hole for the strut. I moved the bottom hole up 3/4" and it solved the problem for FREE and took 10 minutes.
    I did the same thing years ago. Safety Chrome rack added too.
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    I'm too lazy for all this. My RPM1 extended warranty covers it, and the new strut is on-order at my dealer right now.
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    I don't have any rack on my rear trunk lid and had to manually lift it all the way to the fully open spot. So...After reading this thread I bought to replacement from Amazon. It fits perfectly but does not lift the lid much better. It I lift it half way then it will slowly raise it the rest.

    So, what is actually supposed to happen with a good strut in place?

    Also, a 2nd question. What's this thing in the pic attached to my pass backrest? Didn't notice any mention in any thread. It has a wire going down into the bowels below the box.

    Any ideas?? Thanks for your help. Paul

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