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Manual vs automatic transmission.
Seeing that my wife and I are new riders I need thoughts on one vs the other.
The clutch I tried on a new F3 not running was almost to hard to use.
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I am kind of busted and went with the
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I am busted up and went with the SE6 and love it. it will downshift on its own but you have to do the upshifts. There are people that love the extra connection to the bike you get with a manual transmission but I don't miss it at all.
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For two wheels, a clutch, and having front and rear brakes, does make for a fun ride. I couldn't imagine a clutchless motorcycle. That said, we have an RT that is auto (bought used, auto not by choice) and I would not get a manual Spyder. I love not having to worry about a clutch. I still ride my sport bikes, so I get the motorcycle experience, but the auto, three wheels, and comforts make the RT an enjoyable experience.
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Originally Posted by DDT
Seeing that my wife and I are new riders I need thoughts on one vs the other.
The clutch I tried on a new F3 not running was almost to hard to use.
You'll probably love the automatic. It makes it makes riding really easy
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The manual transmission and clutch seems to feel more "normal" on a two-wheel motorcycle than it does on the Spyder. My RT has the SE5 electronic trans and I love it. I've ridden an F3 with the manual transmission a few times and to me it just felt "odd", and a bit uncomfortable. Of course I realize that other opinions may vary.
Last edited by robmorg; 04-19-2016 at 04:25 PM.
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Originally Posted by DDT
Seeing that my wife and I are new riders I need thoughts on one vs the other.
The clutch I tried on a new F3 not running was almost to hard to use.
You answered your own question.....
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The F3 Clutch is a very Hard Pull compared to my 2012 RT with clutch!
If I were to buy a F3 AGAIN I would get the Automatic!!
I guess BRP Made the F3 for Tough Guys and You have to Pay for Valving to Make the clutch Easy to operate like the RT model.
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Originally Posted by DDT
Seeing that my wife and I are new riders I need thoughts on one vs the other.
The clutch I tried on a new F3 not running was almost to hard to use.
The automatic is not automatic in the automotive sense. It is a manual transmission with hydraulically controlled clutching and electronically controlled engine speed control during shifting. You still have to manually actuate the shift process to go up the gears by hitting the paddle. The only real automatic part of it is downshifting. It does automatically downshift as you slow down and come to a stop, but you also can manually make it downshift by hitting the paddle.\
The SE means Shift-Electric.
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SE VS. MANUAL
Been riding Mtc's for 60 years ....the Spyder is the ONLY semi-auto I have ever had .........and I would NEVER go back to a MANUAL.............NEVER..........BRP has a winner in the one they designed.....jmho.....Mike
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I guess I am in the minority here. Both my Spyders have been manuals and I love em. Just feel like I am more a part of the bike than with the Semi-Automatics. I have also seen a number of posts about having trouble with the semis as compared to the manuals. Having said that, it all depends on what you are comfortable with.
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with Mike. Love the SE and won't have one without it. (Well, maybe I would, but not by choice.)
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I vote for the semi automatic. I love it!! Try both out. Good luck with your decision!
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Manual for me
I've only driven the semi-Auto for one day as I had a RSS during the Spyder course I did at Georgian College . I found myself still downshifting the auto with a little tweek of the throttle because it made it much smoother ...... But since I've been on motorcycles since I was about 12 I find the clutch and foot shifter more natural than working the paddle . I suppose it would become routine after a few weeks . I found my 2008 GS has a bit more balls than the RSS auto as well ... Could have just been that bike ?
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You should test drive each flavor to see what you like best. Cost is about $1500 more for the semi auto.
I drove two wheelers with clutches since 1965. Of the five I have owned, only one had a manual--the semi's were not available here until 2009.
Performance wise, no difference IMO. A clutch was a deal breaker for both ladies that I taught to ride.
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Originally Posted by Chupaca
With me we're a crowd... I love the control, being able to pull the clutch and coast downhill, use my engine compression and save my brakes (33,000 miles and still within spec's) sliding the clutch for that extra leap to get my butt outta the way. Once rolling upshifting I don't even use the clutch and the asist makes it very easy compared to other bikes....I'm with you guys.....but for a new comer learning to do different things with each limb can be dificult.
I'm with the manual crew, and a fine crew we are!!! Didn't Lamont post something about there being a fix for the F3 super hard clutch? As I remember the 2015 had the really hard to pull clutch and they changed it for 2016 and made the parts for the fix available for purchase.
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Manual. .. because I'm a control freak.
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I have a manual and enjoy shifting gears. It feels more like a bike to me. Like a sports car...who wants a sports car that's automatic? Wheres the fun in that? At least IMO! lol
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I vote for the semi-auto.
the only down side is leaving the bike in gear will NOT STOP
it from rolling.
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this is a loaded question like 87 or 91 octane. Your going to get 50/50. I like the manual for two reason, one it just makes it feel more like a bike but the bigger one is the lack of being able to clutch and coast. When pulling up to a stop on mine i just clutch it and coast in and brake as needed. I test rode the semi for a while and with the semi auto you have to play with the throttle and "drive" it all the way to the stop light or you will come up short or rolling to slow. There is also the fact if you want to move it in the garage or whatever with a manual you can just click it into neutral without even putting the key in, with the semi auto you have to start it up and put it into neutral if im not mistaken. Plus its more oil, more service and one more thing to go wrong. If the clutch is not adjustable or fixable as someone else said on the F3 i would be surprised. The clutch on my 2015 RT pulls fine
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I love the Se6 I ride... I still feel a part of it because I'm still shifting and I purposely downshift... Just with my hand instead of my foot... I still have the feeling of control and don't miss the clutch.
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