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    Default Toy Hauler

    I want a toyhauler. The wife has found 1 (read one) that I can have. Haven't got it yet. The problem is, when backed in, and it will have to be backed in (small camper) there will be about 1 foot of freeboard in front and on the side of the wheels. Any ideas on how to tie it down? I've looked at the superclamp, but not sure there's the room to back it in, install the clamp and pull forward onto the clamp. Also, when in the camper, there will be limited access to the sides of the Spyder.

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    Not enough information here to make an intelligent reply. I have Superclamps and I love them. Backing up and in would take some practice. They are designed to drive into. My advice: get a bigger toy hauler that you can drive into.

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    In my experience making due with the least has never worked well. I now just save a little longer and search a lot further for the right one where you are not so limited. But if you stick with this one check with Mike (BLUEKNIGHT911) he has some good systems to secure your ryde...
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    Default YOUR TOY HAULER

    Quote Originally Posted by hillrider View Post
    I want a toyhauler. The wife has found 1 (read one) that I can have. Haven't got it yet. The problem is, when backed in, and it will have to be backed in (small camper) there will be about 1 foot of freeboard in front and on the side of the wheels. Any ideas on how to tie it down? I've looked at the superclamp, but not sure there's the room to back it in, install the clamp and pull forward onto the clamp. Also, when in the camper, there will be limited access to the sides of the Spyder.

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    Hi, If the Spyder fits --- why does it have to be backed in ????.....My system ( which has been accident tested -twice ) involves a heavy duty ratchet strap put over the rear tire ( in-line with the tread ) hooked to floor front and rear and then tightened...I also put blocks on the floor on the sides of the front wheels to prevent sideways movement.......This could be done on both front wheels, however getting the straps over the tires is going to be tricky...................good luck ........Mike .......PS, this is exactly the way U-HAUL attaches cars to the dollies they rent.....so this is Lawyer certified to prevent lawsuits

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    My system ( which has been accident tested -twice ) involves a heavy duty ratchet strap put over the rear tire ( in-line with the tread ) hooked to floor front and rear and then tightened...
    Twice??

    Did you learn something from the second lesson; that got missed on the first attempt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Twice??

    Did you learn something from the second lesson; that got missed on the first attempt?

    Sorry... just kiddin' with ya!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    Hi, If the Spyder fits --- why does it have to be backed in ????.....My system ( which has been accident tested -twice ) involves a heavy duty ratchet strap put over the rear tire ( in-line with the tread ) hooked to floor front and rear and then tightened...I also put blocks on the floor on the sides of the front wheels to prevent sideways movement.......This could be done on both front wheels, however getting the straps over the tires is going to be tricky...................good luck ........Mike .......PS, this is exactly the way U-HAUL attaches cars to the dollies they rent.....so this is Lawyer certified to prevent lawsuits
    A bigger trailer won't fit behind my half ton chevy, and I don't want to drive a 3/4 ton when I not towing. It has to be backed in because the nose lacks 10" clearing the kitchen counter. Your idea is essentially what I do when towing the utility trailer, I just need to come up with a 5' wide "C" clamp for the front (or maybe just a 6" and capture one wheel). Maybe a 3/4 sheet of plywood cut to a "C", with short 2x4's screwed to the top and bottom of the C, and then bolted to the floor. Thanks for the ideas. For those interested, look at this http://www.forestriverinc.com/produc...delID=829#Main.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hillrider View Post
    A bigger trailer won't fit behind my half ton chevy, and I don't want to drive a 3/4 ton when I not towing. It has to be backed in because the nose lacks 10" clearing the kitchen counter. Your idea is essentially what I do when towing the utility trailer, I just need to come up with a 5' wide "C" clamp for the front (or maybe just a 6" and capture one wheel). Maybe a 3/4 sheet of plywood cut to a "C", with short 2x4's screwed to the top and bottom of the C, and then bolted to the floor. Thanks for the ideas. For those interested, look at this http://www.forestriverinc.com/produc...delID=829#Main.
    I see you have an RT......the rear of the RT has more size issues than the front !!! imho.........And I have the same NOSE issues you have when I put my RT into my Toyota Pk-up ( flat- bed with box ).....I just re-move the frunk ( 6 bolts ) and put it on my shelf over the cab.........Just a thought.......Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    I see you have an RT......the rear of the RT has more size issues than the front !!! imho.........And I have the same NOSE issues you have when I put my RT into my Toyota Pk-up ( flat- bed with box ).....I just re-move the frunk ( 6 bolts ) and put it on my shelf over the cab.........Just a thought.......Mike
    The front is 20" wider than the back. 6 bolts - I must check into this. Thanks!

    edit - 6 bolts might not be so doable at a campsite, but thanks anyway.
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    Default Tie downs

    How about a D ring near each front wheel with a short strap over or around the A frame or lower joint.
    Once the front is secured and snugged, then secure the rear wheel like mike explained.
    I've considered a toy hauler also, but would like to have the bed above the bike and lower when needed.
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    This is what Mike is talking about. I use them over the front wheels. Spyder never moves. I purchased mine from E-Trailer .com
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    We have a 17ft Toy Hauler, the left front wheel stops just 3in. short of the refrigerator. I added a small wood block and lock the wheel down with the d-ring. Strap the right wheel to the d-ring, then the rear I use two straps one each to the d-rings. We have hauled it over 15000 miles and it doesn't move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hillrider View Post
    A bigger trailer won't fit behind my half ton chevy, and I don't want to drive a 3/4 ton when I not towing. It has to be backed in because the nose lacks 10" clearing the kitchen counter. Your idea is essentially what I do when towing the utility trailer, I just need to come up with a 5' wide "C" clamp for the front (or maybe just a 6" and capture one wheel). Maybe a 3/4 sheet of plywood cut to a "C", with short 2x4's screwed to the top and bottom of the C, and then bolted to the floor. Thanks for the ideas. For those interested, look at this http://www.forestriverinc.com/produc...delID=829#Main.
    ​How big is your toy hauler? I pull a 20 foot behind my Half ton with no problem. Ford 150 Eco Boost. Toy hauler empty weighs #6000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupaca View Post
    In my experience making due with the least has never worked well. I now just save a little longer and search a lot further for the right one where you are not so limited. But if you stick with this one check with Mike (BLUEKNIGHT911) he has some good systems to secure your ryde...
    Yes, mike ( Blueknight911) does have a very good system to secure the down. I can vouch for that. It was my 2012RTS-SE5 spyder that was on a snow mobile trailer. Also, my spyder did not move. Deanna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post



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    Quote Originally Posted by jaherbst View Post

    ​How big is your toy hauler? I pull a 20 foot behind my Half ton with no problem. Ford 150 Eco Boost. Toy hauler empty weighs #6000.

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    The trailer is 30' long. But it's claim to fame is that if I back the Spyder in, I can still use all of the trailer (albeit a little cramped) for overnighting without unloading. Grosses as 7800, but so does my current one and truck grosses at 9500 - no worries.
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    When we had our 35' 5th wheel hauler, we tied the Spyder using ratchet straps on each front wheel to D rings, and cam lock straps either side of the passenger footrests to D rings, in an X pattern. For added security we placed wedge shaped chocks in front of the front tires and one behind the back tire; kicked them tight against the tires. I remember one very potholed / rough highway in New Mexico, the screws holding our screen door backed out but our Spyder stayed tied down.
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    I have the identical 26 RR model and can load my RT-S either forward or backward. I just used the existing hold downs and tied though the wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hillrider View Post
    The front is 20" wider than the back. 6 bolts - I must check into this. Thanks!

    edit - 6 bolts might not be so doable at a campsite, but thanks anyway.
    Actually there are 8 bolts but I use 6......The frunk is really supported by two very large sturdy HOOKS that protrude from the frame at the top edge of the frunk....there are four bolts across the top....I only use two because they are the ones that are easily accessible, the other two aren't.....The two under the frunk edge can be accessed if your Spyder is driven up onto doubled 2 X 4's , once you know where they are you can find them by feel....The other two bolts are on the Frunk wings at the ends , you pop off the side panels to expose them....takes about 15 minutes...........Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by NautiBrit View Post
    I have the identical 26 RR model and can load my RT-S either forward or backward. I just used the existing hold downs and tied though the wheels.
    Thank you - Thank you - Thank You. A picture is worth a thousand tape readings. Because of Levodopa, I'll be able to take the little bikes (Vstrom-FZ07) for a couple of years (I hope) but that won't last forever, and I'll go back to needing the Spyder. Again, Thanks for the picture. Chuck
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    We use out TOWEYEZ to 1. pull the bike onto the trailer and then 2. to secure it to the trailer.




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    Quote Originally Posted by daveinva View Post
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