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    Default words today ...................... what do they mean?

    Well, I discovered this morning that I have a new pet peeve, and never thought about it until I read the paper. There was a 2 page spread, and all they could talk about was the new 3 wheeled motorcycle called the "Slingshot", raved about the steering wheel and side by side seating. Is my peeve about the Slingshot? Surprisingly no, but more about how the news media is changing the definition of words in the English language. Our whole society is changing because we don't know what we are talking about anymore. I could go on all day about this, but won't, I'm going riding.

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    Do you mean because they called the Slingshot a motorcycle? I tend to agree. It looks fun to ride, but...
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    It doesn't matter what it is called; it only matters that it's FUN!
    I've taken to calling them "convertibles", but that's just me!
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    i don't call them at all, that's just me


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    Default I'm with Bob

    Although I would never buy one as it seems impractical for my use. I still keep prying the dealer to let me take one out every time I go in.

    I think one spin would fill the need for me, just to say I'd ridden one and see what it was like first hand.
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    , except that's not gonna happen for me because I don't think I'd fit in one.
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    I think they are interesting. Way to close to the ground for me, I could probably get in the thing, but I am not sure I could get out by myself. 2 artificial hips and 2 really bad knees
    added to my "Growing Old Gracefully" make it difficult to enter and exit low slung vehicles!!! Riding my Spyder, no problem, I love it!!!!
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    Actually; they're not that bad!



    The trick to them: figuring out how to get in and out...
    It's sort of easy... once you find it!
    Step in, and then bring the other foot in also
    (You're standing in it...)
    Grab the wheel, and slide yourself down into the seat.
    Getting out is just the reverse of this process!
    The trouble starts when you climb in, and sit down, leaving one leg dangling out over the side...
    NOBODY is flexible enough to make that work consistently...
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    It's a very expensive, three wheeled go-cart for grown ups. It's fun to drive, but very impractical IMO. Even if I won the Powerball I would never buy one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devious56 View Post
    Well, I discovered this morning that I have a new pet peeve, and never thought about it until I read the paper. There was a 2 page spread, and all they could talk about was the new 3 wheeled motorcycle called the "Slingshot", raved about the steering wheel and side by side seating. Is my peeve about the Slingshot? Surprisingly no, but more about how the news media is changing the definition of words in the English language. Our whole society is changing because we don't know what we are talking about anymore. I could go on all day about this, but won't, I'm going riding.

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    ive test drivin a Slingshot and yes it was fun and exciting, but not a motorcycle.. Convertable car YES.. Asked if i wanted to purchase one by salesman? NOPE just wanted to try it out..

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    Default DON'T BE MAD ....THEY ARE CORRECT

    .... The Paper would be wrong to call it anything else.......Any vehicle in the U.S. by Fed D.O.T. regs that has less than 4 wheels is a MOTORCYCLE ....it's that simple.................In England they make the Morgan " CAR " it has three wheels, when it gets to the U.S. It becomes a motorcycle ( for registration purposes ).....Mike

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    Expensive??? It's a lot cheaper than the RT's I'm lusting over---BUUUUUT---I still think it's an unsafe death trap. You can jump off of a Spyder, scooter or a motorcycle in an emergency but that would be very difficult on the Slingshot. Cage drivers can barely see us, imagine them seeing something slightly larger that a fat and wide go-cart!

    I think it will be a lot more reliable than the Spyder and be easier maintenance wise but it scares me because it's so close to the ground. I'm in the country and I bet one of our dead Missouri tree squirrels would cause one of these things to flip over!

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    To the OP, this is why Mike is correct:


    http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...motorcycle.htm

    So, it's not the news media that changed the definition.

    But, if you want to be upset over the article that you posted, by all means, go ahead. We all have little things that bother us, that to others seem ridiculous.
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    Actually, more states are adopting a 3 wheel "trike" designation and licensing accordingly. Similar to class A and B CDL's

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    I think the gist of the topic is that words have a precise meaning. Start using them correctly. If I'm wrong on this observation, I stand corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Actually; they're not that bad!



    The trick to them: figuring out how to get in and out...
    It's sort of easy... once you find it!
    Step in, and then bring the other foot in also
    (You're standing in it...)
    Grab the wheel, and slide yourself down into the seat.
    Getting out is just the reverse of this process!
    The trouble starts when you climb in, and sit down, leaving one leg dangling out over the side...
    NOBODY is flexible enough to make that work consistently...
    You have described getting into the Slingshot, like how I used to get in and out of Lotus Elise when I owned one.
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    Default What chu-call-it

    It really does not matter wat-chu-call-it. It's kind of like calling a dog without legs, he's not coming anyway. Just ride and have fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyliec View Post
    ...But, if you want to be upset over the article that you posted, by all means, go ahead. We all have little things that bother us, that to others seem ridiculous.
    l don't know about the OP, but I have LOTS of those little things.
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    I don't sweat the small stuff...
    Call it a trombone, if that makes you happy!
    I've got more important things to lose sleep over...

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    Hi Bob,

    Re: Call it a trombone, if that makes you happy!

    I'm with you; "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_rose...smell_as_sweet

    I think a lot of the 'hatred' is because they've a great little machine that sells for a lot less than most Spyders.

    I call that capitalism; others might call it something else.

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    [QUOTE=wyliec;1079542]To the OP, this is why Mike is correct:


    http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcyc...motorcycle.htm

    Since this was directed at me, let me say I thought I made it pretty clear that the post wasn't about the Slingshot. Another example could be the definition of a marriage. It used to mean a union between a man and a women, and now it's a man and a women, a man and a man, or a women and a women. Along those lines, how can a women be listed as a Father on a birth certificate? Just stop a moment and think of the changes made in our society in the past few years. And no, I'm not prejudiced, or racist, I take people as they come, don't care what color they are, ore who they mate with, or what they eat.

    But there is a lot of chatter on here about reading the question, or thread before answering. Did we really not care what I asked? As far as the Slingshot goes, buy one if you like it, take it for a test ride, do what ever you want. But why talk about it on a Spyder forum? That applies to a good number of subjects.

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    It looked to me like you were blaming the news media for changing definitions, in particular the motorcycle. That's why I referred to the article linked in my post.


    "There was a 2 page spread, and all they could talk about was the new 3 wheeled motorcycle called the "Slingshot", raved about the steering wheel and side by side seating. Is my peeve about the Slingshot? Surprisingly no, but more about how the news media is changing the definition of words in the English language."

    I will say that your post #21 is much clearer than post #1. All I can say is- "the times they are a changin'."

    Okay Bob D., throw the Bob Dylan song up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wyliec View Post
    It looked to me like you were blaming the news media for changing definitions, in particular the motorcycle. That's why I referred to the article linked in my post.


    "There was a 2 page spread, and all they could talk about was the new 3 wheeled motorcycle called the "Slingshot", raved about the steering wheel and side by side seating. Is my peeve about the Slingshot? Surprisingly no, but more about how the news media is changing the definition of words in the English language."

    I will say that your post #21 is much clearer than post #1. All I can say is- "the times they are a changin'."

    Okay Bob D., throw the Bob Dylan song up.
    That pretty much sums it up. They report things the way they want, even if it is obvious that it isn't true. Then repeat it enough times that it becomes the norm, and instead of people standing up and correcting them, it's just accepted. If you don't think that it is causing problems, then I might as well crawl back under my rock. No wait, I have a better idea, I'll just go burn some more miles while I can. Thanks for letting me rant, but I can't say I feel any better for it.

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    I ride with a friend who has had one for about six months. He likes it but no baggage space and little WX protection. FYI, it could not be titled in Texas as they did not know what to call it....then someone in the DOT said Autocycle....and that is what the state now calls it for title purposes. What do other states call it?

    ps I had a great ride today with my group....it was a little cool (40) and windy, but we had great food at the Fredericksburg, TX airport cafe....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Devious56 View Post
    That pretty much sums it up. They report things the way they want, even if it is obvious that it isn't true. .......
    I think it's worse than that - the news media ISN'T just 'reporting' things the way they want, more & more they are pretty much 'creating' or at least putting a spin on stories that they then present as a report..... So as you noted, they've effectively changed what the word 'report' means.

    These days, it's all about the spin that they can put on events in the interest of grabbing attention &/ratings, advertising time, or whatever rather than about looking for the truth in an event - and like you, it peeves me something horrid. So I'm gonna go riding too!

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