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I just got this information about the battery life on the CEO of FOBO. I had asked if I could get extra batteries to keep in stock.
I will try to explain on the subject of battery, which you see, is happening during the winter.
Try to recall the old days of digital cameras; the flash wouldn’t work during winter, it needs to be warmed up before each use. Here’s the gist – battery has 2 parameters, voltage and charge (the amount of current residing inside the cell). I will put these in point forms;
1)A new battery has a nearly full charge, with a nearly full voltage of 3.3V at 23 deg C ambient.
2)Over time, whether in use or not, the charge will normally leak, and so the voltage will drop slowly.
3)When in use, the charge will drain faster per design, and so do the voltage.
4)Upon reaching a certain charge level, the voltage will start to drop ‘disproportionately’, each time the signal is advertised. This signifies the battery is getting near to end-of-life, and the electronic circuit needs at least 2.6V-2.7V to function. (You may experience this disproportional phenomena in your phone battery, the first 10% drop seems to take quite long, and thence, it goes to 50% before you have your lunch! Yaak!)
5)When exposed to cold temperature, the voltage will exhibit a lower level, even the charge level is maintained! Users will see 1-2 bars, though the battery is still new, within a couple of months.
6)The battery will still work, even if it is showing 1 bar. However, it will stop functioning at lower than -40 deg C/F. This doesn’t mean it’s dead, and it will come alive again when it’s warmer. (This explains the camera flash issue.)
7)Please do not change the battery, if it’s still new, as long as you are still getting signal. Wait till the winter is over, and it will show the correct voltage again.
8)As you can see, the battery will work between 2.7V to 3.3V, having a working band of 0.6V, over 4 bars. We programmed each bar to show a drop of 0.15V, and this is very very sensitive. This will explain why the batteries read differently esp during the winter. Also take note, not all batteries leave the factories at the same voltage, some were already 3.0-3.1V when we received them at our factory. This is normal for all batteries. This is why we are giving a spare set of battery as a goodwill for all new purchase.
9)We can ship batteries together with a box of sensors, as part of the inherent component. We cannot ship batteries separately, as we need to declare them as dangerous cargo, and it will cost a bomb. You can get them in most electronic stores, and any brand will do. Model is CR-2032, which is a standard description of the battery size.
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On the subject of Caps...
Originally Posted by AY4B
Lamont,
Can you look into making some custom Lamonster FOBO Spyder cap covers? I noticed you can buy different covers at their store.
You may already have a sticker to put on the cover that has a spider on it.
Has anyone used caps on their sensors yet? There was alot of talk about weight and issues with stems especially with other sensors like the Garmin. Are these caps like featherweight where they won't impact the total weight/bulk of the sensor? Do they fit the sensors snug? It seems like a good solution for a Limited/Chrome to get a black set then chrome caps for the front but want to make sure there would be no issues with them...
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Originally Posted by AY4B
Lamont,
Can you look into making some custom Lamonster FOBO Spyder cap covers? I noticed you can buy different covers at their store.
You may already have a sticker to put on the cover that has a spider on it.
I can look into that. Thanks for the idea
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Been reading all the post/comments and I so want to add to my list of things to get while at Spyderfest. But, I can not, for I do not own a smart phone or even iPhone. Hubby still have me in the dark ages---use a flip phone. But, I do have unlimited texting now--LOL
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Originally Posted by jat4736
Been reading all the post/comments and I so want to add to my list of things to get while at Spyderfest. But, I can not, for I do not own a smart phone or even iPhone. Hubby still have me in the dark ages---use a flip phone. But, I do have unlimited texting now--LOL
If you want to use FOBO but don't want to fork out the money for a new smartphone, you could buy a used Iphone or Android for very little money. Bluetooth does not rely on cell service, so you could just enable the bluetooth and pair it with the FOBO sensors. You would end up with an extra device just for the FOBO, but it would work.
Pam
- 2015 RT-S Special Series / Red & Black
- Baja Ron Sway Bar
- Utopia Backrest
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- Stebel Super Loud Air Horn
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- SpyderPops Exhaust Block Off Plate
- SpyderPops KOTT Grill
- SpyderPops Belt Guard
- Cat Bypass
- Laser Alignment by Squared Away
- TricLED Fender Lights
- General Altimax RT43 rear tire
- Dual flag holder
- Mud Flap
- A$$hole seeking missile system
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Originally Posted by Lamonster
I installed my first set of FOBO's on my F3 today and it wasn't too bad to setup. After downloading the app you create an account using just your email address. Once you do that you just add your bike and go through the step by step. One thing I found interesting is the app couldn't find the sensors unless I touched the sensor to the phone as they say to do. I was sure it wouldn't need to do that but after several attempts I decided to follow the directions and sure enough it worked.
After the install was complete I immediately got a warning that my rear tire was low from the 28 psi I set it at. So then I pulled the cap and put air in it and then put the cap on. I had the right pressure but I had removed the locking nut to be able to put air in so I had to remove the FOBO again and install the locking nut. I thought I would lose some air by doing that but as you can see my the last picture and time stamp I didn't lose any air at all.
I plan on adding these to my RT, my RT trailer and Joans F3 so I can check air in all of them on the same app. You just go through the setup again and name and take a picture of each bike or trailer you have monitors on. I got to say for me this is really handy because I don't check the air in my tires as much as I should. This for sure is a Lamonster Garage approved product.
You still have time to get these before Christmas!
http://www.lamonstergarage.com/fobo-electronic-tire-pressu…/
So are they going to be at spyderfest 2016 like the lid locks were last year2015?
2013 STL SE5 BLACK CURRANT
SpyderPop's: LED bumpskid
SmoothSpyder: dualmode back rest
T r * * LED:foam grip covers, Tricrings, FenderZ,
brake light strips, wide vue mirrors
Rivico SOMA modulation brake leds
sawblade mowhalk fender accents
minispyder dash toy
Lid lox
KradelLock
Pakitrack
GENSSI ELITE LED H4 headlights
FLO (Frunk Lid Organizer)
BRP fog lights, trailer hitch
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Originally Posted by Pampurrs
If you want to use FOBO but don't want to fork out the money for a new smartphone, you could buy a used Iphone or Android for very little money. Bluetooth does not rely on cell service, so you could just enable the bluetooth and pair it with the FOBO sensors. You would end up with an extra device just for the FOBO, but it would work.
Pam
It also works on my Ipod touch 5th gen!
Won't work on a iPod 4th gen or a iPhone 4x as those do not support Bluetooth 4.0+
Bob
2011 RT-S SM5 - Black
Bought June 2013 with 450 miles. 27K on 8-1-2017.
Farkles - DIY Trunk Break Light, HMT Break Light, DIY Mirror Turn Signal Lights, DIY Bluetooth Dongle, DIY iPod Setup, DIY Alarm System Install, Show Chrome front fender / rear saddle bag lights, 4th break light around the trunk, Vented Windshield, Baja Ron Sway Bar, DIY GPS setup, Smooth Spyder, BRP Chrome Mirrors, Adjustable deflectors, Triaxis handlebars, NVB Pegs, Bad Boy Airhorn... More to come
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Originally Posted by Bfromla
So are they going to be at spyderfest 2016 like the lid locks were last year2015?
Yes, this year I'll have good stock of everything. I have good stock of the blacks now and I have another shipment of silvers that should be here by the end of the week.
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Originally Posted by Lamonster
Yes, this year I'll have good stock of everything. I have good stock of the blacks now and I have another shipment of silvers that should be here by the end of the week.
You should also offer a combo. Silver on the front 2 and black for the rear. Or Make up your custom Lamonster caps for the front and black for the rear.
I swapped covers with my wife and got a black on my rear with no lock nut and gave her the silver for her front Harley wheel. Black in the rear disappears while the front needs to be the farkle.
2017 F3 Limited
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This just might be a Spyderfest purchase for me...
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Which gauge to believe?
Just installed FOBO that I bought from Lamonster. It consistently reads 2 pounds lower on on each tire compared to JT Thorton's dual fill gauge that I have been using for 2 years. Which one can I believe?
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Originally Posted by White Lightening
Just installed FOBO that I bought from Lamonster. It consistently reads 2 pounds lower on on each tire compared to JT Thorton's dual fill gauge that I have been using for 2 years. Which one can I believe?
Hmmmm mine measures perfectly matched to two gauges that I have in the garage. Maybe you got faulty sensors? I got mine directly from FOBO, maybe that's the difference..... dunno.
Pam
- 2015 RT-S Special Series / Red & Black
- Baja Ron Sway Bar
- Utopia Backrest
- F4 Customs tall and wide vented windshield
- Stebel Super Loud Air Horn
- Baker Built Air Wings
- LaMonster Highway Pegs
- SpyderPops Exhaust Block Off Plate
- SpyderPops KOTT Grill
- SpyderPops Belt Guard
- Cat Bypass
- Laser Alignment by Squared Away
- TricLED Fender Lights
- General Altimax RT43 rear tire
- Dual flag holder
- Mud Flap
- A$$hole seeking missile system
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Mine also reads low compared to my trusty digital gauge.
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So does mine but not 2 pounds. The difference may be .2 and that may be just taking the gauge off and on. You need to get it checked at the tire shop to get more readings.
2017 F3 Limited
2017 F3 Limited , Lamonster Black Dymond brake pedal with brake rod at #5 Pure Magnesium Metallic
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FOBOs were my first farkle and loving them. So nice to just look at phone and see tires are good to go. I was around 2 pounds off using cheap digital gauge but I invested in THIS one and it's almost dead even with FOBO. But IMHO you can just split the difference and you'll be fine. If it's off by 1 pound or so it should not be a problem, just make sure to keep them there.
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Man with too many gauges
Man with too many gauges never knows the real tire pressure!
Been there done that.... The digital BRP gauges was the worst. Another digital gauge I have matches the FOBO.
I also bought a dial type that was supposed to be very accurate. It wasn’t!
The pen style pop out type are the worst. 3 of them I had all read differently!
The FOBO system was right on for me and how do I know? Being into RC aircraft when you have retracts on an airplane you have to pressure them very accurately. I had a gauge from a retract pump that had an expanded scale you could read it in .2 increments. It matched my FOBO system within .2.
One of the problems with mechanical gauges when used on the Spyder is the low pressures we run. Most of them are made to read car tires and thus expect 28 PSI or more! When you use them for reading 16 PSI the accuracy becomes a problem.
So from this experience just be aware the mechanical gauges (or some digitals) may not actually be accurate. I threw away 4 pressure gauges I had as they were all different.
Personally I would trust the FOBO system. If you feel you have 1 bad sensor, swap them between tires and see if a sensor reads differently than the others.
Bob
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2011 RT-S SM5 - Black
Bought June 2013 with 450 miles. 27K on 8-1-2017.
Farkles - DIY Trunk Break Light, HMT Break Light, DIY Mirror Turn Signal Lights, DIY Bluetooth Dongle, DIY iPod Setup, DIY Alarm System Install, Show Chrome front fender / rear saddle bag lights, 4th break light around the trunk, Vented Windshield, Baja Ron Sway Bar, DIY GPS setup, Smooth Spyder, BRP Chrome Mirrors, Adjustable deflectors, Triaxis handlebars, NVB Pegs, Bad Boy Airhorn... More to come
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Thats Great news Lamont, check your PM's I sent you my request for 2 Lamonsters for the front and 1 spider for the dash!
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2017 F3 Limited , Lamonster Black Dymond brake pedal with brake rod at #5 Pure Magnesium Metallic
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Originally Posted by Lamonster
You need to start a new thread announcing this,
Thanks, Bill
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2017 F3 Limited , Lamonster Black Dymond brake pedal with brake rod at #5 Pure Magnesium Metallic
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Originally Posted by AY4B
what charger did you go with?...are you satisfied with how well it works?...
can you give details on how/where to get it
thanx
let's ride safe & be careful out there,
Mike in Nawlins'
2014 Black SE6 Limited "Charlotte"
New Orleans Ride Captain
Patriot Guard Riders
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I did build my own charger based on my video with the cheap circuit boards.
But before they got here from China I also bought this.
It was the ONLY charger I found that will charge a single cell.
It does have a EU plug so you will need a EU to US adapter.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/311088922158...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Bob
2011 RT-S SM5 - Black
Bought June 2013 with 450 miles. 27K on 8-1-2017.
Farkles - DIY Trunk Break Light, HMT Break Light, DIY Mirror Turn Signal Lights, DIY Bluetooth Dongle, DIY iPod Setup, DIY Alarm System Install, Show Chrome front fender / rear saddle bag lights, 4th break light around the trunk, Vented Windshield, Baja Ron Sway Bar, DIY GPS setup, Smooth Spyder, BRP Chrome Mirrors, Adjustable deflectors, Triaxis handlebars, NVB Pegs, Bad Boy Airhorn... More to come
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Originally Posted by finless
I did build my own charger based on my video with the cheap circuit boards.
But before they got here from China I also bought this.
It was the ONLY charger I found that will charge a single cell.
It does have a EU plug so you will need a EU to US adapter.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/311088922158...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Bob
thanx Bob
for the clueless like me, where/what adapter do we need to get?
let's ride safe & be careful out there,
Mike in Nawlins'
2014 Black SE6 Limited "Charlotte"
New Orleans Ride Captain
Patriot Guard Riders
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[QUOTE=PatriotRider;1083651]thanx Bob
for the clueless like me, where/what adapter do we need to get?
Here's a simple one. I have one that can be used around the world with different voltage/output ratings. I got mine at Best Buy.
http://www.sears.com/ablegrid-europe...1&blockType=G1
Last edited by wyliec; 01-22-2016 at 06:01 PM.
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[QUOTE=wyliec;1083660]
Originally Posted by PatriotRider
thanx Bob
for the clueless like me, where/what adapter do we need to get?
[/http://www.sears.com/ablegrid-european-euro-eu-to-us-usa-travel/p-SPM10703055125?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1
Here's a simple one. I have one that can be used around the world with different voltage ratings. I got mine at Best Buy.
I was thinking of cheapest that would work available from ebay
probably shipped from Asia like the charger
let's ride safe & be careful out there,
Mike in Nawlins'
2014 Black SE6 Limited "Charlotte"
New Orleans Ride Captain
Patriot Guard Riders
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