Rear End Collision Detection Using Wi-Fi

**Synthetic** · 11-14-2015, 11:12 AM

I was just reading the current thread concerning the Spyder that got rear ended in Houston.....with more and more rear enders occuring of course we need to pay as much attention to our mirrors as possible...while reading it the thought came to me about a rear facing camera.

Has anyone tried using a GoPro or similar video camera with a Wi-Fi set up to put the rearview on the screen of your smart phone?

I have a Spyder Cuff with a Ram Mount for my Galaxy Note 4 phone so it would be easy to see.....it would be like a "backing up" camera in a car.

It would be a pretty wide view I would think.....

Any ideas or thoughts about this is a good idea or not.....?

**Bfromla** · 11-14-2015, 12:25 PM

Would be abused quickly.
Wifi too handy.
More needs to done for being seen & such everyone in such a rush they dont look where they are going.
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Otherwise a standard drivers ed refresher every 3 years would suck but less than getting hit....... Just a thought

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**Synthetic** · 11-14-2015, 12:37 PM

How would it be abused?

**robmorg** · 11-14-2015, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Synthetic

How would it be abused?

I think he means that riders with WiFi access on-board might be tempted to fall into the same electronics abuse that causes many rear-end accidents, by distracted drivers, in the first place. If so, I would agree. Heck, the GPS display is sometimes distracting enough.

Problem I see is that if you cannot force yourself to look in your rear-view mirrors at every stop, how would looking at a camera display be any different? However, the threat you bring up is a real one. The habit that I am trying very hard to achieve, with varying amounts of success

, is to check my rear view mirrors at EVERY stop.

**Bfromla** · 11-14-2015, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by robmorg

I think he means that riders with WiFi access on-board might be tempted to fall into the same electronics abuse that causes many rear-end accidents, by distracted drivers, in the first place. If so, I would agree. Heck, the GPS display is sometimes distracting enough.

Problem I see is that if you cannot force yourself to look in your rear-view mirrors at every stop, how would looking at a camera display be any different? However, the threat you bring up is a real one. The habit that I am trying very hard to achieve, with varying amounts of success

, is to check my rear view mirrors at EVERY stop.

Thx & yes that and other ways wifi is "hacked".

Point is to be safe fyi I just received my set of wireless helmet lights today, will have pics soon here is the concept on video
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**Synthetic** · 11-14-2015, 07:30 PM

I agree with being just as safe as possible...it wouldn't be a case of not wearing the proper clothing or having proper lighting on as you could still do that...and it wouldn't be "watching" the Wi-Fi but glancing or looking at it just as if you were looking at the mirrors.

Wearing very bright clothes and having a lot of very bright lights may not matter at all if the driver behind you is texting and looking at their phone rather than at what is in front of them.....we can only try to be safer by doing extra to become more visible but when bad drivers don't see anything in front of them because of distraction we need to figure out how to save ourselves in-spite of their bad driving..... that's what I am trying to figure out how to do...

**IdahoMtnSpyder** · 11-15-2015, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by robmorg

The habit that I am trying very hard to achieve, with varying amounts of success

, is to check my rear view mirrors at EVERY stop.

Fundamental, just plain fundamental, as taught in every motorcycle rider safety course. Still doesn't make it any easier to establish the habit though. We discussed rear end hits in a GWRRA meeting I was at today. Besides keeping an eye on the mirrors the general consensus was we need to make a habit of leaving escape room in front of us when stopped. I think that will be being stressed more and more these days because of the increase in distracted cagers.

**Chupaca** · 11-15-2015, 12:23 AM

they have offered such a critter. One was built into the helmet and one was as you suggested. It would be no problem to do as you stated. Thing is what do you do if you do see someone comming up too fast..?? I like to stop to the far right with enough room to pull onto the shoulder and at least if not possible I would loose a front wheel at best...

**Bob Denman** · 11-17-2015, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by WasWinger

Fundamental, just plain fundamental, as taught in every motorcycle rider safety course. Still doesn't make it any easier to establish the habit though. We discussed rear end hits in a GWRRA meeting I was at today. Besides keeping an eye on the mirrors the general consensus was we need to make a habit of leaving escape room in front of us when stopped.

Technology won't save your butt; the use of your own senses might...

**Synthetic** · 11-14-2015, 01:17 PM

I'm wondering though.... what's the difference between watching the Wi-Fi screen and watching the mirrors? Is there such a thing as watching mirrors abuse?

Maybe it'll come down to which gives a rider a better view of behind...I'm not saying it's a great idea just trying to figure out what might help us Spyder ryders not get hit from behind so much.

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**robmorg** · 11-14-2015, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Synthetic

I'm wondering though.... what's the difference between watching the Wi-Fi screen and watching the mirrors? Is there such a thing as watching mirrors abuse?

Well, you don't "watch your mirrors". You just check 'em when you are stopping. The "abuse" I think Bfomia was referring to had more to do with other distracting things you could do with WiFi on board that may cause distractions while riding.

**Synthetic** · 11-14-2015, 01:37 PM

I m may just have to give it a try and see....it should be worth trying if it can help stop someone getting hurt.

It maybe a crazy idea.

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**sscheuer47** · 11-14-2015, 02:44 PM

Easy to operate. Not as complicated as the other brand. Install one on front behind windshield with JT's bar and ram mount and mount the other on the truck lid facing rear. Turn the front camera on and it sends a signal to the rear camera to also begin filming. Install USB power to each, install a big memory card and you can film all day. The Virb isn't as popular as the others but will do every thing that you need. Do a duck duck go search to find the Garmin website.

**Dragonfly** · 11-16-2015, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by sscheuer47

Easy to operate. Not as complicated as the other brand. Install one on front behind windshield with JT's bar and ram mount and mount the other on the truck lid facing rear. Turn the front camera on and it sends a signal to the rear camera to also begin filming. Install USB power to each, install a big memory card and you can film all day. The Virb isn't as popular as the others but will do every thing that you need. Do a duck duck go search to find the Garmin website.

I have been using the Virb Elite since lat year, used it on the trip to Spyderfest but rather expensive; add the Tempe and remote control button and the Virb will give you exactly what you need for a rear view camera since it is Wi-Fi the Virb can transmit live video to your Android Phone but don't get a phone call when in use cause your phone will lock up. The fix is use an older Android Phone without a contract.

Since I have added a K1S Dual channel Camera with Crash Avoidance however everytime someone gets to close at a stoplight the darn alarm goes off.

**Bfromla** · 11-17-2015, 10:31 PM

This needs to be operational & "live"ImageUploadedByTapatalk1447817411.596491.jpg fyi mounts to trailer hitch receiver

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**wyliec** · 11-18-2015, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by Bfromla

This needs to be operational & "live"ImageUploadedByTapatalk1447817411.596491.jpg fyi mounts to trailer hitch receiver

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Now that's funny; a bit extreme tho.

**Bob Denman** · 11-18-2015, 07:57 AM

But when they're talking on the phone, or texting...

While I applaud the usage of these automatic braking systems; I also fear that they'll just create even MORE drivers who have more important things to do, than drive the car!

**spy_der_man** · 11-18-2015, 11:19 AM

I just got ran off the road yesterday. A car on the inside lane pulled up next to me and then just started merging into my lane and kept going. I honked and hit the brakes hard but the woman still kept coming. She didn't even look to see who or what was honking. Needless to say I was a little on the angry side. So I got back in my lane jump over to the other lane and pull up next to her and give her the "Bird" as I drive by. I can't believe she didn't see me, I wear a fluorescent green helmet and I am 6' 4" so I am not a tiny rider LOL.

**Pirate looks at --** · 11-18-2015, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by spy_der_man

I just got ran off the road yesterday. A car on the inside lane pulled up next to me and then just started merging into my lane and kept going. I honked and hit the brakes hard but the woman still kept coming. She didn't even look to see who or what was honking. Needless to say I was a little on the angry side. So I got back in my lane jump over to the other lane and pull up next to her and give her the "Bird" as I drive by. I can't believe she didn't see me, I wear a fluorescent green helmet and I am 6' 4" so I am not a tiny rider LOL.

I used to live in Visalia! Nice town. I moved out in 79, I am sure it has grown. I can guarantee you that woman thought to herself......what a jerk! Flipping me off for no reason at all. Who does he think he is?