OIL - regarding the API service rating & JASO MA/MA2 - which is more important?

[jaherbst]

Personally I think it is all about the money. I'm trying to picture Pam with oil and grease all over her and lying under her Spyder and using those bad Man words when her wrench slips off.

More power to you Pam. Just remember to clean your nails before going out to dinner.

[Pampurrs]

Personally I think it is all about the money. I'm trying to picture Pam with oil and grease all over her and lying under her Spyder and using those bad Man words when her wrench slips off.

More power to you Pam. Just remember to clean your nails before going out to dinner.

Pam

[jaherbst]

Picture of Pam at a young tender age working on her Motorcycle.

[JKMSPYDER]

I do my own oil changes and other maintenance for two reasons. 1. I save money. 2. I know it is done right as I am very particular. I have a good dealer whom I trust, but if I do it, any mistake is on me. I have heard of some dealers charging customers for the oil filters but not changing them or charging for O rings but not changing them. Also, a dealer may overfill or underfill the oil tank. I don't blame anyone for using a dealer for all their maintenance if the owner can't or won't do it.

[Ben Burped]

So i am getting ready to change the oil for the first time on the used spyder i bought back in January. I just called the stealer and said how much for an oil change......He said $380!!!!!! i said, after i recovered from passing out, dude this is not a Ferrari!!! He said well we also check the belt, lights, zerk fittings whatever that is and test and reset buds and that it took 3 fricken hours? Is this what everyone else experiences? I have only been to this dealer on one other occasion to have them put on the baja ron bar and they charged me for 2 hours even though they called me and said it was done within 1 so i dont have a good feeling about them. Why do all dealers have to rape us? Just like all these oil change threads. 11$ a quart for crappy synthetic blend when i can get full synth castrol or valvoline for half? If services were reasonable i would take them all to the dealer i think they lose more than they gain. I have noticed with bikes and car dealers since vehicles dont require the constant maintenance they used to that they replaced actually services with "check check check" they wanted 500$ on my car for the 15,000 mile service and the only thing they actually did was change the oil and air filter and the rest was checks checks checks. I told them to pound sand and just change the oil. Obviously i am going to investigate how hard it is to do it myself on the spyder, i change oil on my yamaha in 20 minutes tops. Anyone see issue with running 10w40 or do i need to stick with 5w40? I already have some castrol full synthetic 10w40 i use on my sport bike. Sorry to rant but just got off the phone with them and still in shock lol
Thanks

Get a kit and do it yourself. You just have to take off some of the plastic on the left side. You need a t-30 socket and a 6MM (I think) socket and you can do it. The "zerk" fittings are on the front suspension and are difficult to get a grease gun on them. All things considered, you can still buy everything that you need and keep a lot of your hard earned cash in your pocket.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Its now gone from store shelves as well. I contacted Ashland and the product has been discontinued. Wal Mart has replaced it with a non synthetic Valvoline motorcycle oil on the shelves. They still have the full synthetic 20w50.

Is the consensus that the 20W50 would be fine in the 998 as long as I let the engine warm before riding if its sub freezing weather?

Well JC, Walmart must have a ton of it to get rid of because I just bought some more.....just sayin......Mike