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    Technical Service Bulletin
    Silver SM5 PE# 1274, Hindle Exhaust, Touring Windshield, Caliper Trim, B.E.S.T. 3 Year Ext, Nuvi 255 GPS, Fog Lights, Sport Rack, Back Rest, 12V Outlet, Talon 3300p Alarm, NMN Mud Flap and TipZ LEDs, SpyderLovers Emblems, Kuryakyn Widow Pegs and Axel Trim, Luimoto seat skin, Evo Air Filter and O2 Mod, Cranker Tank Bag, Blue Sea fuse block, MAD/AMS/MBG, Oddyssey battery, IPS.

    Service Bulletin Applied: Gen II parking brake, 2nd SW patch, evap can/hose update, Gen II DPS

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    Yes, my spyder is currently in the shop for the same issue. It is one month old and I am upset. This is a BIG!!!! silent issue that needs to be addressed. It is embarassing and frustrating. It started after one month of owning my spyder. I noticed that it occurs when the temperature gauge has three or more bars (which is usually after five minutes of riding). I will come to a traffic light and put in neutral; when the light turns it want go into first. After all of the horns stop blowing I cut off and wait for a few minutes and then it resets. I then started to leave it in first gear when I come to a light. That did not help because it would not shift into second. It is in the shop as I type. The dealer received some computer part which they are replacing. Doe anyone have any ideal what is going on. I am pissed.

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    complete service on 6.000 km, changing gear position service, spring, lube somewhere in the front and software take 4 hours.....I think that u should change your dealer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by major View Post
    Yes, my spyder is currently in the shop for the same issue. It is one month old and I am upset. This is a BIG!!!! silent issue that needs to be addressed. It is embarassing and frustrating. It started after one month of owning my spyder. I noticed that it occurs when the temperature gauge has three or more bars (which is usually after five minutes of riding). I will come to a traffic light and put in neutral; when the light turns it want go into first. After all of the horns stop blowing I cut off and wait for a few minutes and then it resets. I then started to leave it in first gear when I come to a light. That did not help because it would not shift into second. It is in the shop as I type. The dealer received some computer part which they are replacing. Doe anyone have any ideal what is going on. I am pissed.
    Why would you shift into neutral while at a stop light? Not a safe practice - you need to be ready to move quickly at all times- and have a plan of action on where you can move to if need be.

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    Hi to all SpyderLovers,
    This is my first time to attempt a thread so a little patience is appreciated,
    I, like so it seems many others have the same sort of problems with the transmission.
    When I first pick my S/B 08 SE5 I had all sorts of warnings flashing across the display, Check DPS, Temp gauge reading about 10 degrees higher, oil light flashing on most of the time, and starting an intermittent problem. When I had a look around the machine I found that none of the battery leads where tightened up. This only solved the DPS warning and made it easier to steer at lower speeds. With the transmission it wants to throw me out of the saddle sometimes when it’s changing down, and making a very harsh dry noise through all gears, also considerable vibration.
    I had a test ride on the demo bike it was smooth and in changing down automatically had a little blip of power and changed smoothly, mine is like someone trying to break out with a sledge hammer. After this ride it was a must have. Not so sure Now.
    With taking it back to the dealer and having it test ridden, diagnostically checked they said it was fine, with a tweak of something here and there(DUR, it’s not). But when I went to leave “in disgust” it wouldn’t start, in showing the mechanic this he decided to replace the selector switch for the transmission. I am still waiting for it to be acquired and fitted. Has anyone experienced the very disappointing start that I am having?
    Ok enough belly aching for now, I love the concept of the Spyder, but I would just like a smoother ride.
    SpyderLover TonyF.

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    So sorry for all your troubles but welcome none the less
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    SE5 problem...oh boy...
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    Talk to your dealer and get the service update. Fixed mine perfect.

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    Default Still Not WORKING - tAKE IT bACK

    I got my spyder back today after BRP sent my dealer a part to replace regarding my shifting issue. After 15 minutes I was stuck again in traffic as it would not shift. I am taking it back to the dealer in the morning and telling them I do not want it. I am very disappointed. I am seeking the lemon law clause. Enough is enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by major View Post
    I got my spyder back today after BRP sent my dealer a part to replace regarding my shifting issue. After 15 minutes I was stuck again in traffic as it would not shift. I am taking it back to the dealer in the morning and telling them I do not want it. I am very disappointed. I am seeking the lemon law clause. Enough is enough.
    I agree with you...it's actually dangerous to be left stranded in the middle of the street...plus, the stress of dealing with the issue isn't worth it. The dealership should talk with BRP and get this resolved finally...perhaps switch you to a SM5 or get a new SE5...either way, as you said, enough is enough...

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    Major,

    Curious - who is your dealer?

    I got my SM5 from Riva in Pompano - no troubles so far so I cannot comment on their service.

    I have heard good things about Broward Motorsports in Davie.

    Pete

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    My Dealer is Motorsports of Fort Lauderdale. I just spoke with them again today and after they changed the TMC or TCM (?), the computer is now stating I need a GPS. The dealer is going to order and it should be completed by Tuesday. Whew... I will see what happens then. On the other hand I will be calling BRP on Monday morning informing them I want to give it back and will move forward with the Lemon Law. I am not confident in this machine and no matter what is exchanged it will have shifting problems. If I am wrong I will keep the bike. But I will ride the heck out of it on Tuesday when I pick it up and if I encounter a problem at least I have already started the process for BRP to take it back. I think BRP has no idea what is going on and I am collecting my information for the Lemon Law because my yellow bike is truly a lemon. The dealer has been cool about it and are really trying their best, but what else can they do? I asked them to follow up with BPR on Monday along with me so I can dumped this thing.

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    Okay here is the latest as of May 2009. I finally got BRP and my dealer on a conference call. At first they had the dealer change the GPS, then the transmission module, and finally some updates. I got it back and within a few minutes and was returning. A second conference call took place the next day and BRP had the dealer ground the coil with a ten gauge wire. Whatever the coil is. Nonetheless, IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I have been riding and riding and riding and riding and NO PROBLEMS.
    BRP explained that the coil was transmitting a frequency that was causing an interruption with the computer modules. WHATEVER it works!!!!!!! Yeah!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by major View Post
    I got my spyder back today after BRP sent my dealer a part to replace regarding my shifting issue. After 15 minutes I was stuck again in traffic as it would not shift. I am taking it back to the dealer in the morning and telling them I do not want it. I am very disappointed. I am seeking the lemon law clause. Enough is enough.
    BRP had the dealer ground the coil with a ten gauge wire and it works perfectly. Inform your dealer to contact BRP ASAP.

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    ...have read that some other owners have had the "Ground the Coil" fix done to their machines and all is fine. 2200 miles on my SE5 and so far - all OK... but I'll sure keep this fix in mind...

    Now you can go back to smiling while you ride your !!

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    Major, there's another thread on SpyderLovers with details on the "grounding the coil" fix, includes photos if you re interested. The fix is an official service bulletin from BRP to the dealers.

    Since you asked, the coil generates high voltage to the spark plugs, making the the air/fuel mixture in the cylinders explode, making Spyders move fast!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryTheBadger View Post
    Major, there's another thread on SpyderLovers with details on the "grounding the coil" fix, includes photos if you re interested. The fix is an official service bulletin from BRP to the dealers.

    Since you asked, the coil generates high voltage to the spark plugs, making the the air/fuel mixture in the cylinders explode, making Spyders move fast!!!

    Ok, I have read about this coil fix, but have not been able to find any post with pics of where to go. Anybody have any?
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    anybody have a reference number (or whatever its called)for the service bulletin? i called my dealer, they looked it up but couldnt find anything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latemarch View Post
    The problem has been seen before and there are several threads about it.
    It's most likely the gear position sensor failing, though there are other causes.

    Hopefully your dealer will be able to sort it out.
    They chaged the sensors ans oil pressure sping on mine last week. I've been out of town so the only risding that I did was bringing it home. Really a big improvement, I trust it will stay that way.

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    This should help you on the coil wires fix:
    http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...ight=coil+wire

    NOTE: The "coil wires fix" is new and separate from bulletin 2009-01 involving replacement of the gear position sensor, a spring and computer reprogramming.

    I'll go a step further...if your BRP/Spyder dealer is clueless on all this stuff, call Ryan the service manager at Bradford Marine in Little Rock, Arkansas at (501) 833-2628. He turned me on to the wires fix before it was released to the dealers, and after multiple calls and emails, he seems to know Spyders.
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