Suzuki 90 degree L twin 1000cc RT!

[cyclerider]

I have been thinking even before I bought the '13 RT, the Suzuki 90 degree L twin 1000cc would have been perfect in the Spyder! Now after the heat issues if I had $$ to waste I would put that motor in the bike. If it had the right bodywork and mapping there would not be enough OOOOO's in smooth to describe the bike. The L twin is notoriously proven, reliable and smooth for many miles. Torque is good and HP good. If BRP was going to farm it out anyway, that would be my motor of choice. What does everyone think?

[Peter Aawen]

Apart from the 3 wheel thing, one of the great attractions of the Spyder for me was the Rotax twin cylinder engine - acquainted with them in a fairly significant number of applications, & now with my Spyder experiences added to the list, IMO things just wouldn't be the same with any other motor!!

Besides, it seems that the heat alleviation kit on my 2013 RT Ltd largely addresses bodywork & airflow issues, so I'd guess that whatever motor went under the same (original) tupperware would still have the same or very similar heat issues.... which btw, after the heat recall anyway, seem to be fairly well non-existent!! And things can get pretty damn hot down under!!

[Mike Ard]

BRP will never out source motors. If they need a motor Rotax will develop and produce it.

[cyclerider]

BRP will never out source motors. If they need a motor Rotax will develop and produce it.

BRP already out sources motors to Rotax.... I thought!!

[cyclerider]

Apart from the 3 wheel thing, one of the great attractions of the Spyder for me was the Rotax twin cylinder engine - acquainted with them in a fairly significant number of applications, & now with my Spyder experiences added to the list, IMO things just wouldn't be the same with any other motor!!

Besides, it seems that the heat alleviation kit on my 2013 RT Ltd largely addresses bodywork & airflow issues, so I'd guess that whatever motor went under the same (original) tupperware would still have the same or very similar heat issues.... which btw, after the heat recall anyway, seem to be fairly well non-existent!! And things can get pretty damn hot down under!!

I just believe IMHO, that there would be even less heat surrounding the bike and the smooth tourqe of that motor would be incredible!! Used to have a V strom. Although 500 lbs. lighter than the RT, I just think it would be a good fit.

[Deer Slayer]

BRP already out sources motors to Rotax.... I thought!!

BRP owns Rotax.

[Peter Aawen]

Quick & dirty, buuut.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotax

[Mike Ard]

Guess I should have been more clear. Putting any engine in a BRP designed and produced product other than Rotax will never happen. Rotax, BRP, Ski Doo, Sea Doo and some European snowmobile companies I can't remember the names of are all related.

You will see Suzuki engines in Artic Cat Products and Fuji heavy industries engines in Polaris products but never in a Ski Doo etc...

[asp125]

Personally, I'd like to see a Rotax/Aprilia RSVR V4 motor - now THAT's performance: 201 hp at 13,000 rpm .. would be um... adequate.

[Chupaca]

the rotax aprilla 998 cc 149 hp engine (they already have thesein spyders). I love the high rpmV-twin. Or a 1200 cc twin...??

[cptjam]

the rotax aprilla 998 cc 149 hp engine (they already have thesein spyders). I love the high rpmV-twin. Or a 1200 cc twin...??

Yes ! Exactly what is needed! RSS 2016!!!

[Bob Denman]

BRP has exclusively used Rotax-power for almost 50 years...
Although I DID have a 1965 Ski Doo in the family, that had a Sachs engine in it...

[cyclerider]

Although I have not personally experienced the triple, I believe a v twin was the right choice for this bike. The way the the Spyder just wants me to hurry up and shift gears like, right now, may get me a ticket. It feels like it has a shift assist on the sm5. Is this true?

[cyclerider]

Headed out to KY then TN and back through NC for some BBQ today. Leaving shortly.

[retread]

Personally, I'd like to see a Rotax/Aprilia RSVR V4 motor - now THAT's performance: 201 hp at 13,000 rpm .. would be um... adequate.

Only problem with this, the V4 isn't a Rotax, it's an Aprilia.

john

[Bob Denman]

To the O.P.:
Remember that a 90 degree Vee-Twin is going to take up a lot more space, than the current setup.
How will you re-package it?

[Highwayman2013]

BRP already out sources motors to Rotax.... I thought!!

BRP owns Rotax

[cyclerider]

I knew Rotax put engines in BMW and Aprillia bikes etc.....Never knew BRP owned Rotax.

[cyclerider]

To the O.P.:
Remember that a 90 degree Vee-Twin is going to take up a lot more space, than the current setup.
How will you re-package it?

Actually the L twin would not take up a lot more space. It is quite comparable in space taken up. It can be shifted in such a way like Suzuki does in the Vstrom where the body work could stay the same on the RT. May even have a little room between the cylinders to make a little bit bigger gas tank.

[Bob Denman]

The fuel tank sits underneath the rider; not on top of the engine, in the RTs...

[pegasus1300]

So since this is all hypothetical anyway, I really like the Suzuki engine. Reliable as a stone ax, very powerful and can be tuned to push a lot of torque or a lot of horsepower. Just like the the Rotax motor. Other then the increased rom\om between the cylinders I don't see any advantage to going to the Suzuki. Rotax division can and would do anything Spyder Division asked them to do. Its all Bombardier.

I may be wrong but I think the V4 Aprillia motor is also a Rotax motor and would be a blast in the F3 or the RT. Another 200cc in the current VTwin would also be great. Does Rotax make a larger Vtwin from the same platform and could we get a displacement increace from a jug change?

[retread]

The Aprilia V4 is all Aprilia, aas for the Rotax twin, there are kits available in Europe that'll give you bigger bores, and one that will give a longer stroke. The stroker will give you 1200cc, but as I've said before, we're talking cubic money.

john

[cyclerider]

Right. This was all hypothetical anyway. The L twin was just a, if I had $ to customize the RT, that would be my preference.

[pegasus1300]

The Aprilia V4 is all Aprilia, aas for the Rotax twin, there are kits available in Europe that'll give you bigger bores, and one that will give a longer stroke. The stroker will give you 1200cc, but as I've said before, we're talking cubic money.

john

Yes well buying a new RT/F3 for the displacement change is mega money too but...........

[cyclerider]

The fuel tank sits underneath the rider; not on top of the engine, in the RTs...

You are correct sir! The motor does sit more forward, indeed.