<snip>As far as the idea of wearing one on the highway but not in town... that's really backwards thinking. With high speed highway accident a helmet might not make much difference. In town at lower speeds (where most accidents happen), that is the exact place you want a helmet.
Ever been hit in the head with a piece of gravel or other debris while riding 75 MPH? I haven't, but my helmet has quite a few times, and it gave me quite a jolt each time. I can't even imagine what would have happened to my head had I not been wearing a helmet. That's why I always wear one when riding; parades excluded.
Well, I think I have heard from all the helmet police. "I do this, I do that". And the best one.... "you will die a grissley death and be all yucky!" Geesh, this is the land of the free and home of the little ol' lady/politically correct! As the great 21st century philosopher, Mr. Bobby Knight once quipped:
Well, I think I have heard from all the helmet police. "I do this, I do that". And the best one.... "you will die a grissley death and be all yucky!" Geesh, this is the land of the free and home of the little ol' lady/politically correct! As the great 21st century philosopher, Mr. Bobby Knight once quipped:
Or, as our forefathers once opined: DON'T TREAD ON ME!
Yup, you are free to wear whatever you want, and enjoy your ride. I'm with you all the way on that. I will ride side by side with you anytime you want, as long as you ride safely I don't care whether or not you wear a helmet. It's a personal choice that we all make on our own.
I see you've only been on the forum just a month, so you may not have expected the response you got on this one.
But now you've been indoctrinated, INCLUDING being told to "rest in peace". There are only two subjects that get this sort of reaction here. You've just hit upon one of them, as you can see. The other, well... I'll just say that if you're lucky, and you stick around a while, you'll likely avoid that one altogether.
I hope you do stick around, and that you feel free to join in all the various conversations, whenever you have something to say. Also, enjoy that new RT of yours - it's a beauty. And seriously, please do continue to share both your experiences and your questions, here on the forum. We really are a friendly bunch, and you will learn a lot - I know I did.
Yup, you are free to wear whatever you want, and enjoy your ride. I'm with you all the way on that. I will ride side by side with you anytime you want, as long as you ride safely I don't care whether or not you wear a helmet. It's a personal choice that we all make on our own.
But now you've been indoctrinated, INCLUDING being told to "rest in peace". There are only two subjects that get this sort of reaction here. You've just hit upon one of them, as you can see. The other, well... I'll just say that I hope you don't stumble upon that one unaware.
Actually I won a bet. When I shared my note before publishing to another person with, shall we say, experience on the site warned me that I was entering a buzz saw and that the militant ATGATT folk would descend upon me without mercy. I countered that the short time I was on here there would be others who would at least understand if not rise in defense. That is exactly what happened. I like the folk on this forum.
As I noted in my initial note, I am still ATGATT on two wheels (which I also have) but I will indeed relax from time to time on the Spyder. Never on an expressway, never for very long. I once drove a friend's 1964 1/2 Ford Mustang convertible with V-8 engine on twisty North Carolina mountain roads. Lots of fun and no protection, just a lap strap and no safety in case of a roll over (yes, had that baby on two wheels several occasions, I took it too fast, but I was younger then). Also an accident where a BMW SUV went airborne and crossed lanes, crushed a couple of cars on the Taconic Parkway Saturday which I also rode but not near the accident. Several killed in a terrible crash where a helmet would not have helped me (which I was of course wearing in New York State). I am not cavalier and have no plans to go soon but I will go sooner or later. I figured that out. And yes, I am an organ donor, thanks.
So chatter away, be respectful, I respect all of you and appreciate your advise. Won't follow it all but I will always listen.
So you know I personally respect your right to wear a helmet or not. The "RIP", was in jest! I can't imagine why anyone would want to not wear a helmet just to protect the old between the ears computer! My brother was just running down to the parts store to pick up a part when he was hit head on by someone in a VW bug, no helmet, big hole in his skull, and he was lucky, several weeks in the Hospital, and a lot of prayers and he survived, and he has worn that "Brain Bucket" ever since, and so do I. I would Ryde with you anytime helmet or not! I also respect your right to wear what you see fit to wear!
Peace
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Get yourself underneath some mesh gear, and THEN tell us that you're cooler without it!
We wore our mesh gear on Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Saturday afternoon we said this is enough. Stripped it off and we were both far cooler and more comfortable in T shirts. We wear it when we can but when it gets too hot!!!! It comes off.
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So you know I personally respect your right to wear a helmet or not. The "RIP", was in jest! I can't imagine why anyone would want to not wear a helmet just to protect the old between the ears computer! My brother was just running down to the parts store to pick up a part when he was hit head on by someone in a VW bug, no helmet, big hole in his skull, and he was lucky, several weeks in the Hospital, and a lot of prayers and he survived, and he has worn that "Brain Bucket" ever since, and so do I. I would Ryde with you anytime helmet or not! I also respect your right to wear what you see fit to wear!
Peace
I am Ok with this. I just believe your other comment is out of line IMO.
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But now you've been indoctrinated, INCLUDING being told to "rest in peace". There are only two subjects that get this sort of reaction here. You've just hit upon one of them, as you can see. The other, well... I'll just say that I hope you don't stumble upon that one unaware.
Actually I won a bet. When I shared my note before publishing to another person with, shall we say, experience on the site warned me that I was entering a buzz saw and that the militant ATGATT folk would descend upon me without mercy. I countered that the short time I was on here there would be others who would at least understand if not rise in defense. That is exactly what happened. I like the folk on this forum.
As I noted in my initial note, I am still ATGATT on two wheels (which I also have) but I will indeed relax from time to time on the Spyder. Never on an expressway, never for very long. I once drove a friend's 1964 1/2 Ford Mustang convertible with V-8 engine on twisty North Carolina mountain roads. Lots of fun and no protection, just a lap strap and no safety in case of a roll over (yes, had that baby on two wheels several occasions, I took it too fast, but I was younger then). Also an accident where a BMW SUV went airborne and crossed lanes, crushed a couple of cars on the Taconic Parkway Saturday which I also rode but not near the accident. Several killed in a terrible crash where a helmet would not have helped me (which I was of course wearing in New York State). I am not cavalier and have no plans to go soon but I will go sooner or later. I figured that out. And yes, I am an organ donor, thanks.
So chatter away, be respectful, I respect all of you and appreciate your advise. Won't follow it all but I will always listen.
Now about my upcoming oil change...
Thanks...
SpyderWalter
And what brand of tire are you considering?
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Elka front shock's
Rolo Laser Alignment
Dual Power outlets
Garmin 590 GPS
Your not to old Phil I started riding 2 wheels in 1945 on a Cushman. Had to get to work! Was 12 and we were building track houses for the returning Vets. I have had 3 major mishaps in the riding time. And do have to wear a helmet. But the other gear people have to wear is in my mind a negitive mind set that they are going to crash this time. I wear the helmet because I was racing a car with no helmet and a corner came up and had to lay it down Took off both sides of my face and broke my skull from the right eye socket to my upper jaw bone. But I was so drunk I got up and rode the bike home! Also scraped off my knee down to the joint. This was in 1965 and haven't rode drinking since then. But still see no need for body armor as I like the feeling of freedom I get from the wind. So those that do and those that don't enjoy it your own way.
My adjacent state has no helmet law so when I ride there I sometimes shed mine. I'll say this, having ridden two wheels for years always with the bucket on...riding without a helmet is a totally different sound experience on the Spyder. With a helmet I get all exhaust noise and without it's mostly engine sounds...very mechanical..you can really hear the cams and clatter from the valves.
I wouldn't ride on an interstate without but it's my thought that if you crash a Spyder, unless you're at a low speed, it's not going to be pretty because there's no siding this thing...you're likely coming off and as the Blood Rock song went, "we were flying along and hit something in the air."
Has anyone here come off one and walked away?
I'll relate an incident I witnessed two years ago.
I was riding my Spyder near my home and going past a local strip mall. A man (at least my age...maybe older...I was 62 at the time) was on a Spyder RT wearing t-shirt, shorts, flip flops, and sun glasses when he pulled out of the shopping center in front of a car going down the road. The car swerved away from him, but he still hit the car going less than 20 mph...the car was going about the same speed. His Spyder was knocked into a ditch and he went flying...in his sun glasses, t-shirt, shorts, and flip flops. He hit the road and tumbled into the grass next to the road.
He did not walk away.
I got off my Spyder (and took off my helmet) and stayed with with him until the police and ambulance got there...less then 10 minutes. He was badly scraped up and was bleeding from a couple of places on his scalp. The woman who'd been driving the car was distraught, though she had done nothing wrong. When the police got there he kept telling them he had a helmet on but didn't know what happened to it. Which was not true. They took him away in an ambulance and I have no idea what happened to him after that. I do know if he'd had a helmet on he would have avoided the visible head injuries, and the EMTs there thought he had other closed head injuries.
At 20 miles an hour.
I always ride with a helmet.
If someone wants to ride without a helmet and it's legal, more power to them. But I think it's stupid.
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That's why I always wear one when riding; parades excluded.
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I see you've only been on the forum just a month, so you may not have expected the response you got on this one. 
There are only two subjects that get this sort of reaction here. You've just hit upon one of them, as you can see. The other, well... I'll just say that if you're lucky, and you stick around a while, you'll likely avoid that one altogether. 
And seriously, please do continue to share both your experiences and your questions, here on the forum. We really are a friendly bunch, and you will learn a lot - I know I did. 
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Get yourself underneath some mesh gear, and THEN tell us that you're cooler without it! 
