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07-06-2016, 09:50 AM
#451
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Is there a summary of DESS/Ignition Switch part numbers that have been installed, failed again, then installed again? I have a case open with BRP now and want to make sure I'm having an intelligent conversation with my dealer.
Trb-- (Roger)
2014 Cognac STL:Ultimate Seat, Nelson Rigg Tail Pack, Nelson Rigg RS/ST Half Cover, TL fender lights, Squared Away Laser Alignment, BajaRon sway bar and links, Akropovic Sport Silencer
2022 White Pearl F3T
Gone but not forgotten: 2019 F3S Special Series Liquid Titanium
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07-06-2016, 01:21 PM
#452
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Originally Posted by maxummike
Brought the bike in, i was able to get it started by turning the key on and off about 30 times. once i got it running headed down to the dealer. when i got there i shut her down and went to get the tech. sure enough it wouldn't start for him. He saw the blank screen and said he things the entire unit is going bad. I asked about the DESS and he said it was not that because i would never get it started. When i hear more I'll keep everyone posted. Thank you for your opinions, I'm learning a lot about Can AM's.
Hi, The Tech was correct - if He meant - the Spyder was in FULL DESS FAILURE ....Orange screen & KEY icon showing ....from your description I don't think you have/had a DESS failure ................With DESS failure we have been told to MOVE the Spyder away from it's location if possible ......remove key about 5 feet from switch ...wait a minute ......insert key and turn it on- off 5 x's rapidly .....sometimes this will get the Spyder past the DESS issue.......ir did with Me at SPYDERFEST 2016 .....I then had the latest version of the DESS MODULE installed........2 mos. later , I got a KEY flash but NO DESS failure ......so my fingers are crossed..............Please let us know what your issue was........good luck ...Mike
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 05:07 PM.
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07-06-2016, 05:42 PM
#453
Very Active Member
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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07-06-2016, 06:50 PM
#454
Very Active Member
EDIT: Apparently my short-term memory is going faster than I thought. It is the 4916 they're ordering; not 4190.
4916 is the part number they're trying to order; so far it's still on a slow boat from Canada. BRP's TSB (apparently there is one) doesn't include the ignition switch.
Thanks Deanna
Last edited by Trbayth; 07-07-2016 at 07:17 AM.
Reason: Failing short-term memory
Trb-- (Roger)
2014 Cognac STL:Ultimate Seat, Nelson Rigg Tail Pack, Nelson Rigg RS/ST Half Cover, TL fender lights, Squared Away Laser Alignment, BajaRon sway bar and links, Akropovic Sport Silencer
2022 White Pearl F3T
Gone but not forgotten: 2019 F3S Special Series Liquid Titanium
Spyder States Visited
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07-06-2016, 09:14 PM
#455
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07-06-2016, 11:02 PM
#456
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Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 05:08 PM.
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07-07-2016, 07:18 AM
#457
Very Active Member
Thanks to everyone on the part number heads-up. I wrote it down but was going by memory when I replied to Deanna. The correct part number is 4916.
Trb-- (Roger)
2014 Cognac STL:Ultimate Seat, Nelson Rigg Tail Pack, Nelson Rigg RS/ST Half Cover, TL fender lights, Squared Away Laser Alignment, BajaRon sway bar and links, Akropovic Sport Silencer
2022 White Pearl F3T
Gone but not forgotten: 2019 F3S Special Series Liquid Titanium
Spyder States Visited
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07-07-2016, 07:26 AM
#458
Originally Posted by Trbayth
Thanks to everyone on the part number heads-up. I wrote it down but was going by memory when I replied to Deanna. The correct part number is 4916.
Roger,
Don't forget:
The memory is the second thing to go.
I've forgotten what the first one was!
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07-07-2016, 10:16 AM
#459
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07-07-2016, 01:23 PM
#460
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Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 05:09 PM.
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07-07-2016, 02:34 PM
#461
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07-07-2016, 06:52 PM
#462
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by Trbayth
EDIT: Apparently my short-term memory is going faster than I thought. It is the 4916 they're ordering; not 4190.
4916 is the part number they're trying to order; so far it's still on a slow boat from Canada. BRP's TSB (apparently there is one) doesn't include the ignition switch.
Thanks Deanna
Would you post the part # for the ignition switch that you get. I am curious on what that part # will be.
Deanna
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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07-07-2016, 07:05 PM
#463
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by Deanna777
Would you post the part # for the ignition switch that you get. I am curious on what that part # will be.
Deanna
IF I get an ignition switch. So far, the work is to replace the DESS module only.
Trb-- (Roger)
2014 Cognac STL:Ultimate Seat, Nelson Rigg Tail Pack, Nelson Rigg RS/ST Half Cover, TL fender lights, Squared Away Laser Alignment, BajaRon sway bar and links, Akropovic Sport Silencer
2022 White Pearl F3T
Gone but not forgotten: 2019 F3S Special Series Liquid Titanium
Spyder States Visited
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07-07-2016, 07:22 PM
#464
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by Trbayth
IF I get an ignition switch. So far, the work is to replace the DESS module only.
Just a reminder the " D.E.S.S module/ and the ignition switch is under warranty.
Good Luck!
Keep us posted please.
Deanna
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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07-07-2016, 08:00 PM
#465
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07-08-2016, 04:37 PM
#466
Originally Posted by Deanna777
Which "'entire unit is going bad?
Thanks for the update!
Looking forward to hearing more about " the blank screen" and what your tech says.
Deanna
The tac, speedometer and the electronic dash. that is all one unit, i didn't know that.
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07-08-2016, 05:37 PM
#467
Very Active Member
almost everything is now a DESS error.
The Power of Logic.
Start Thinking.
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07-08-2016, 05:42 PM
#468
Remember those famous words from "Down Periscope".
When you rush; that's when accidents happen.
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07-08-2016, 05:46 PM
#469
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by maxummike
The tac, speedometer and the electronic dash. that is all one unit, i didn't know that.
Deanna
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 01-21-2024 at 05:11 PM.
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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07-10-2016, 08:33 PM
#470
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by Sam Mac
It went to a guy near Hickory NC. Nice guy and his buddy is a member here on SL. Just picked up a brand new left over 2014 Honda CB1100. I'll be out playing on the Blue Ridge Parkway tomorrow. I'll do an "Exit Post" with the reasons that I sold the RT, I've Hi Jacked this thread enough.
Sent pm. Deanna
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Former Spyder - 2014 RTS SE6 Cognac SOLD
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07-11-2016, 08:28 AM
#471
Very Active Member
Dee
Got your PM, I get the message. I will not post in your thread ever again. I went through all 22 pages and deleted all of my post's, hope I didn't miss any. I wish you and all the other owners the best with the DESS issue. No need to send me another PM.
Sam
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07-11-2016, 12:20 PM
#472
Very Active Member
Just got back from having my DESS module replaced. Part # is 710004916. Problem is, how long do you go without an error showing up before you declare it "fixed?"
I'll update the thread if something happens again.
Trb-- (Roger)
2014 Cognac STL:Ultimate Seat, Nelson Rigg Tail Pack, Nelson Rigg RS/ST Half Cover, TL fender lights, Squared Away Laser Alignment, BajaRon sway bar and links, Akropovic Sport Silencer
2022 White Pearl F3T
Gone but not forgotten: 2019 F3S Special Series Liquid Titanium
Spyder States Visited
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07-11-2016, 12:46 PM
#473
Very Active Member
BEEN THERE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Originally Posted by Trbayth
Just got back from having my DESS module replaced. Part # is 710004916. Problem is, how long do you go without an error showing up before you declare it "fixed?"
I'll update the thread if something happens again.
...It's FIXED....what the concern is, since this MODULE has been re-vised a number of times because the " REVISION " didn't work ..............only time will tell whether this will be the one that finally ENDS the problem............I now have 3400 miles on the same Module you just received ......I got an " ORANGE KEY FLASH " a few hundred miles ago......But NOT the Full DESS failure Mode .......So I continue to ride, but remain aware of where I'm going and when I'm travelling.....Mike
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07-11-2016, 01:59 PM
#474
Very Active Member
Kinda like asking how long to wait after a black powder misfire
Had both the DESS module and the Ignition switch been replaced, I'd say don't worry about it.
AJ
Originally Posted by Trbayth
Just got back from having my DESS module replaced. Part # is 710004916. Problem is, how long do you go without an error showing up before you declare it "fixed?"
I'll update the thread if something happens again.
2014 RT-S
Akrapovic Exhaust & Cat Bypass
Bajaron Sway Bar w/links / Sena SM-10/Garmin 660
Comfort Seat w Adjustable Backrest
Decals by Purple Harley / Magic Strobe
Kuryakyn Black Widow Pegs Rivco Highway Brackets
Rivco Trunk Mounted Double Flag Holder
FOBO / Spyder Cuff / XM Radio w MC Antenna
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07-11-2016, 03:05 PM
#475
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by Trbayth
Just got back from having my DESS module replaced. Part # is 710004916. Problem is, how long do you go without an error showing up before you declare it "fixed?"
I'll update the thread if something happens again.
If you're a pessimist, 5 years! If you're an optimist, 2 days!
2014 Copper RTS
Tri-Axis bars, CB, BajaRon sway bar & shock adjusters, SpyderPop's Bumpskid, NBV peg brackets, LED headlights and modulator, Wolo trumpet air horns, trailer hitch, custom trailer harness, high mount turn signals, Custom Dynamics brake light, LED turn signal lights on mirrors, LED strip light for a dash light, garage door opener, LED lights in frunk, trunk, and saddlebags, RAM mounts and cradles for tablet (for GPS) and phone (for music), and Smooth Spyder belt tensioner.
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