Page 7 of 31 FirstFirst ... 3456789101117 ... LastLast
Results 151 to 175 of 754
  1. #151
    Very Active Member Deanna777's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Vermont
    Posts
    6,074
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinLV View Post

    Just color me LUCKY (so far)

    AJ
    AJ, I hope that you don't get the D.E.S.S. code, if you do take a picture, and post on this thread. I am only trying to help. Deanna
    2014RTS-SE6 Cognac I am a Happy Spyder Owner!

    BRP Semi-Rigid Rear Side Cargo Travel Bags
    BRP Glove Box Organizer
    Ron-rnet Laser Alignment
    TRIC-LED Spyderpockets
    STV Black Carbon Fiber Windshield Blackout
    WRAPMYSPYDER.COM Sceptor Kit Reflective Decals-Orange
    painted Dashboard+ GPS plug-in
    BRP Half Cover
    WRAPMYSPYDER.COM Air Dam Web Decal Black Reflective
    General Altimax RT 43 Rear tire
    BRP Full cover
    TRIC-LEDS Front Fender Marker Lights & Saddlebag Markers Lights





  2. #152
    Very Active Member PaladinLV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    869
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Deanna777 View Post
    AJ, I hope that you don't get the D.E.S.S. code, if you do take a picture, and post on this thread. I am only trying to help. Deanna
    Trying? Hell you ARE helping

    AJ


    2014 RT-S
    Akrapovic Exhaust & Cat Bypass
    Bajaron Sway Bar w/links / Sena SM-10/Garmin 660
    Comfort Seat w Adjustable Backrest
    Decals by Purple Harley / Magic Strobe
    Kuryakyn Black Widow Pegs Rivco Highway Brackets
    Rivco Trunk Mounted Double Flag Holder
    FOBO / Spyder Cuff / XM Radio w MC Antenna


  3. #153
    Very Active Member Trbayth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Wayne, New Jersey
    Posts
    1,125
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Deanna777 View Post
    AJ, From day 1 with my 2014RTS-SE6 Cognac I have always shut my down in Neutral. Deanna
    Me too. Although I only had the DESS code pop up once and that was on a 2014 ST, not at RT.
    Trb-- (Roger)

    2014 Cognac STL
    Ultimate Seat, Nelson Rigg Tail Pack, Nelson Rigg RS/ST Half Cover, TL fender lights, Squared Away Laser Alignment, BajaRon sway bar and links, Akropovic Sport Silencer

    Spyder States Visited

  4. #154
    Very Active Member pitzerwm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    TriCities, WA
    Posts
    1,431
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Meeting a new Spyder rider this weekend we were talking about a lot of things and the DESS thing. He has a 15 and had had the DESS thing once, but was able to get past it. He has Lamont's IPS and he switched his keys and hasn't has an issue since. His question was "what if the key's signal is weaker than it should be"?

    Seems in Deanne's case they replaced the keys, but it still came back. In light of the fact most of agree BRP uses the cheapest parts, maybe all of the keys are on the margin. There should be a way to measure whatever it sends out.

    Just a thought.


    One of the hardest decisions you'll ever face in life is choosing whether to walk away or try harder.

  5. #155
    Very Active Member JerryB's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Beaverton, Oregon
    Posts
    1,873
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Hi Bill,

    Re: There should be a way to measure whatever it sends out.

    I am no electrical/electronic expert, but I believe that the key(s) to Spyder do not have batteries in them. If mine do, I'll be d***** on how I would replace them.

    That leads me to believe that they do not send out anything. To 'send out' something would require an energy source, i.e., a battery.

    My new 2015 car key(s) have batteries but they are only to remotely lock/unlock the doors.

    My car keys, which have the keyless start system, are a RF system. The car sends out the RF signal and it ( somehow ) bounces back without requiring any energy.

    Anyone else with a thought on this?

    Jerry Baumchen

    PS) And I might be so wrong on this that I haven't seen the ball since the kickoff.
    'I'll never forget what's her name.'

    'Things are more like they are now than they ever have been before.' Dwight Eisenhower

    2008 GS SE-5

  6. #156
    Very Active Member pitzerwm's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    TriCities, WA
    Posts
    1,431
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    I'm sure that you are right but something sends something to somewhere, if its built right on the edge, with any heat or cold it will fail. I'm glad that for now BRP has to pay & throw money at the problem making no points in the "we build a great machine" category.


    Quote Originally Posted by JerryB View Post
    Hi Bill,

    Re: There should be a way to measure whatever it sends out.

    I am no electrical/electronic expert, but I believe that the key(s) to Spyder do not have batteries in them. If mine do, I'll be d***** on how I would replace them.

    That leads me to believe that they do not send out anything. To 'send out' something would require an energy source, i.e., a battery.

    My new 2015 car key(s) have batteries but they are only to remotely lock/unlock the doors.

    My car keys, which have the keyless start system, are a RF system. The car sends out the RF signal and it ( somehow ) bounces back without requiring any energy.

    Anyone else with a thought on this?

    Jerry Baumchen

    PS) And I might be so wrong on this that I haven't seen the ball since the kickoff.


    One of the hardest decisions you'll ever face in life is choosing whether to walk away or try harder.

  7. #157
    Very Active Member Deanna777's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Vermont
    Posts
    6,074
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Trbayth View Post
    Me too. Although I only had the DESS code pop up once and that was on a 2014 ST, not at RT.
    If you get the D.E.S.S. key code take a picture and show it to your can-am dealer. Also let them know it has been happening, if they don't believe you. Also, post on this thread if you get the D.E.S.S. key code. Deanna
    2014RTS-SE6 Cognac I am a Happy Spyder Owner!

    BRP Semi-Rigid Rear Side Cargo Travel Bags
    BRP Glove Box Organizer
    Ron-rnet Laser Alignment
    TRIC-LED Spyderpockets
    STV Black Carbon Fiber Windshield Blackout
    WRAPMYSPYDER.COM Sceptor Kit Reflective Decals-Orange
    painted Dashboard+ GPS plug-in
    BRP Half Cover
    WRAPMYSPYDER.COM Air Dam Web Decal Black Reflective
    General Altimax RT 43 Rear tire
    BRP Full cover
    TRIC-LEDS Front Fender Marker Lights & Saddlebag Markers Lights





  8. #158
    Very Active Member Deanna777's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Vermont
    Posts
    6,074
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by pitzerwm View Post
    Meeting a new Spyder rider this weekend we were talking about a lot of things and the DESS thing. He has a 15 and had had the DESS thing once, but was able to get past it. He has Lamont's IPS and he switched his keys and hasn't has an issue since. His question was "what if the key's signal is weaker than it should be"?

    Seems in Deanne's case they replaced the keys, but it still came back. In light of the fact most of agree BRP uses the cheapest parts, maybe all of the keys are on the margin. There should be a way to measure whatever it sends out.

    Just a thought.
    Bill, The first time that I got the D.E.S.S. key code my dealership replaced the D.E.S.S. module and reprogramed the keys, the second time that I got the D.E.S.S. key code, they replaced the D.E.S.S module, ignition switch, and changed the back lock on the trunk, gave me a new lock ( for a trailer) reshaped the keys. Deanna
    2014RTS-SE6 Cognac I am a Happy Spyder Owner!

    BRP Semi-Rigid Rear Side Cargo Travel Bags
    BRP Glove Box Organizer
    Ron-rnet Laser Alignment
    TRIC-LED Spyderpockets
    STV Black Carbon Fiber Windshield Blackout
    WRAPMYSPYDER.COM Sceptor Kit Reflective Decals-Orange
    painted Dashboard+ GPS plug-in
    BRP Half Cover
    WRAPMYSPYDER.COM Air Dam Web Decal Black Reflective
    General Altimax RT 43 Rear tire
    BRP Full cover
    TRIC-LEDS Front Fender Marker Lights & Saddlebag Markers Lights





  9. #159
    Very Active Member Bob Denman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Grahamsville, NY
    Posts
    92,292
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    Hi Jerry,
    No batteries in the key; just the chips...
    From what I understand about how the DESS works (Which is actually VERY little...); the DESS module sends out a signal to "read" the info that's held in the chip that's in your key... Whatever info it picks up, gets sent back into the computer for verification...
    The key doesn't transmit anything; it just has to be able to be read by the system.

  10. #160
    Very Active Member JerryB's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Beaverton, Oregon
    Posts
    1,873
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Hi Bob,

    Re: The key doesn't transmit anything

    I graduated with the class of '71 with a degree in Mech Engr, so it has been a long time ago. Also, I was NOT the brightest person in my class.

    However, I do know that to transmit/send requires a power source in some form. That is not up for discussion.

    As for Spyder keys, consider a LEO's radar gun. The gun transmits but your car does not. So how does he know how fast you are going? It is the bounce back; his radar gun is taking a reading.

    I do not know a lot about RF systems but I do know that my local library, which has RF 'devices' imbedded/glued in the books, uses it when I checkout a book or turn one in. Those books do not contain any batteries; but they do have a 'device' that the RF reader detects.

    While I may be wrong, I think this might be how our keys work.

    Jerry Baumchen

    PS) I recently ordered a 2nd backup key for my Spyder. The key supplied was a Aprilia-type key. When I got it, it would not work. So the company sent me a new chip only, to install myself. That key works great now. But that chip did not have a battery.
    'I'll never forget what's her name.'

    'Things are more like they are now than they ever have been before.' Dwight Eisenhower

    2008 GS SE-5

  11. #161
    Very Active Member PaladinLV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    869
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    Jerry,

    I'm an RF guy or was from 1967 - 2004.
    Since I'm not about to cut open my key, my best guess is it uses a form of Passive Integrated Technology, the same tech as used in Dog/Cat microchips.
    If BRP is in fact using a form of PIT the key DOES and MUST transmit, obtaining it's power inductively from the RF sent out by the Spyder.
    Check out Passive RFID on the net and it should give you the technical aspects of how it works.

    AJ

    Quote Originally Posted by JerryB View Post
    Hi Bob,

    Re: The key doesn't transmit anything

    I graduated with the class of '71 with a degree in Mech Engr, so it has been a long time ago. Also, I was NOT the brightest person in my class.

    However, I do know that to transmit/send requires a power source in some form. That is not up for discussion.

    As for Spyder keys, consider a LEO's radar gun. The gun transmits but your car does not. So how does he know how fast you are going? It is the bounce back; his radar gun is taking a reading.

    I do not know a lot about RF systems but I do know that my local library, which has RF 'devices' imbedded/glued in the books, uses it when I checkout a book or turn one in. Those books do not contain any batteries; but they do have a 'device' that the RF reader detects.

    While I may be wrong, I think this might be how our keys work.

    Jerry Baumchen

    PS) I recently ordered a 2nd backup key for my Spyder. The key supplied was a Aprilia-type key. When I got it, it would not work. So the company sent me a new chip only, to install myself. That key works great now. But that chip did not have a battery.


    2014 RT-S
    Akrapovic Exhaust & Cat Bypass
    Bajaron Sway Bar w/links / Sena SM-10/Garmin 660
    Comfort Seat w Adjustable Backrest
    Decals by Purple Harley / Magic Strobe
    Kuryakyn Black Widow Pegs Rivco Highway Brackets
    Rivco Trunk Mounted Double Flag Holder
    FOBO / Spyder Cuff / XM Radio w MC Antenna


  12. #162
    Very Active Member JerryB's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Beaverton, Oregon
    Posts
    1,873
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Hi AJ,

    Re: Check out Passive RFID on the net and it should give you the technical aspects of how it works.

    Thanks; I will. Always willing to learn something new; especially if it is technical.

    Jerry Baumchen

    PS) Re: obtaining it's power inductively from the RF sent out by the Spyder

    That is very interesting; more reading to do.
    'I'll never forget what's her name.'

    'Things are more like they are now than they ever have been before.' Dwight Eisenhower

    2008 GS SE-5

  13. #163
    Very Active Member PaladinLV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    869
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    Jerry,
    One of the theories, from BRP is the problem is caused by the key being saturated with too much RF.

    I told people to carry a strip of aluminum foil with them just in case BRP is correct, they could wrap the key.

    Most thought I was joking - oh well
    But with those units that "clear" after an unspecified amount of time and then do not reappear for weeks, months, or ever, they might just be onto to something.

    But at this point, BRP obviously doesn't know nor have they a clue. So they are going the old tried and true USN FBM troubleshooting. Replace all the likely components; key, DESS, and ignition switch. LOL

    AJ

    Quote Originally Posted by JerryB View Post
    Hi AJ,

    Re: Check out Passive RFID on the net and it should give you the technical aspects of how it works.

    Thanks; I will. Always willing to learn something new; especially if it is technical.

    Jerry Baumchen

    PS) Re: obtaining it's power inductively from the RF sent out by the Spyder

    That is very interesting; more reading to do.


    2014 RT-S
    Akrapovic Exhaust & Cat Bypass
    Bajaron Sway Bar w/links / Sena SM-10/Garmin 660
    Comfort Seat w Adjustable Backrest
    Decals by Purple Harley / Magic Strobe
    Kuryakyn Black Widow Pegs Rivco Highway Brackets
    Rivco Trunk Mounted Double Flag Holder
    FOBO / Spyder Cuff / XM Radio w MC Antenna


  14. #164
    Very Active Member Deanna777's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Vermont
    Posts
    6,074
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Trbayth View Post
    Me too. Although I only had the DESS code pop up once and that was on a 2014 ST, not at RT.
    Do you know if the D.E.S.S issue has been happening to all 2014 spyder models?

    Deanna
    2014RTS-SE6 Cognac I am a Happy Spyder Owner!

    BRP Semi-Rigid Rear Side Cargo Travel Bags
    BRP Glove Box Organizer
    Ron-rnet Laser Alignment
    TRIC-LED Spyderpockets
    STV Black Carbon Fiber Windshield Blackout
    WRAPMYSPYDER.COM Sceptor Kit Reflective Decals-Orange
    painted Dashboard+ GPS plug-in
    BRP Half Cover
    WRAPMYSPYDER.COM Air Dam Web Decal Black Reflective
    General Altimax RT 43 Rear tire
    BRP Full cover
    TRIC-LEDS Front Fender Marker Lights & Saddlebag Markers Lights





  15. #165
    Very Active Member Trbayth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Wayne, New Jersey
    Posts
    1,125
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Deanna777 View Post
    Do you know if the D.E.S.S issue has been happening to all 2014 spyder models?

    Deanna
    I haven't done an exhaustive analysis of all the posts throughout SL but it does seem that it's not something that's only happening to RT's. I don't remember seeing anyone specifically mention it was happening on their 2013 or older.
    Trb-- (Roger)

    2014 Cognac STL
    Ultimate Seat, Nelson Rigg Tail Pack, Nelson Rigg RS/ST Half Cover, TL fender lights, Squared Away Laser Alignment, BajaRon sway bar and links, Akropovic Sport Silencer

    Spyder States Visited

  16. #166
    Very Active Member Deanna777's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Vermont
    Posts
    6,074
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Trbayth View Post
    I haven't done an exhaustive analysis of all the posts throughout SL but it does seem that it's not something that's only happening to RT's. I don't remember seeing anyone specifically mention it was happening on their 2013 or older.
    I had a 2012RTS-SE5 and I did not get the D.E.S.S.S error code. Very interesting info. if it is only happening on with the 2014RTS & 2015 RTS models. I wonder if it is happening with the F3's?

    Deanna
    2014RTS-SE6 Cognac I am a Happy Spyder Owner!

    BRP Semi-Rigid Rear Side Cargo Travel Bags
    BRP Glove Box Organizer
    Ron-rnet Laser Alignment
    TRIC-LED Spyderpockets
    STV Black Carbon Fiber Windshield Blackout
    WRAPMYSPYDER.COM Sceptor Kit Reflective Decals-Orange
    painted Dashboard+ GPS plug-in
    BRP Half Cover
    WRAPMYSPYDER.COM Air Dam Web Decal Black Reflective
    General Altimax RT 43 Rear tire
    BRP Full cover
    TRIC-LEDS Front Fender Marker Lights & Saddlebag Markers Lights





  17. #167
    Active Member KJWEB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Location
    Midland, TX
    Posts
    410
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Here's a thought....Watch out! I have LaMonster's ISP Key Cover. I put it on what I called the key 1. Within a week I got the D.E.S.S. error code. I took the ISP cover off, and key 1 would work. I put the cover back on key 1 and I would get the error. I took pictures of the error so I could show it to the dealer for my 3,000 service and to get it recorded via a dealer. I never tried to put the ISP key cover on key 2, Until After the 3,000 service, I put the ISP key cover on the key 2. That has been over a month ago and added a 1,000 miles with NO error. I have talked this over with a few folks and the question is: Are some of the key's chips emitting a weak signal causing the D.E.S.S. error?
    www.sasspyders.com
    2016 F3T
    2015 Freedom Trailer
    Sypderpops BumpSkid Plate
    Lamonster ISP Key Cover
    Lamonster F3 Bar Clamp and Power Port
    Lamonster RIP floorboards and frame caps
    Lamonster Chevron Highway Pegs
    BajaRon Swaybar & Heim Links
    F4 Custom 21" tinted windshield
    BRP Cannonball Seat
    BRP F3 Idler Pully
    FOBO TPMS
    LidLox (dual)
    Garmin 660LM GPS
    Cat Delete Performance Pipe
    F3T Top Case
    PPA Black Widow Wheels
    Custom Frunk Wrap


  18. #168
    Very Active Member PaladinLV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    869
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by KJWEB View Post
    Here's a thought....Watch out! I have LaMonster's ISP Key Cover. I put it on what I called the key 1. Within a week I got the D.E.S.S. error code. I took the ISP cover off, and key 1 would work. I put the cover back on key 1 and I would get the error. I took pictures of the error so I could show it to the dealer for my 3,000 service and to get it recorded via a dealer. I never tried to put the ISP key cover on key 2, Until After the 3,000 service, I put the ISP key cover on the key 2. That has been over a month ago and added a 1,000 miles with NO error. I have talked this over with a few folks and the question is: Are some of the key's chips emitting a weak signal causing the D.E.S.S. error?
    The amount of signal sent by the key is directly proportional to the amount of energy it receives from the module.
    See Post #167

    AJ


    2014 RT-S
    Akrapovic Exhaust & Cat Bypass
    Bajaron Sway Bar w/links / Sena SM-10/Garmin 660
    Comfort Seat w Adjustable Backrest
    Decals by Purple Harley / Magic Strobe
    Kuryakyn Black Widow Pegs Rivco Highway Brackets
    Rivco Trunk Mounted Double Flag Holder
    FOBO / Spyder Cuff / XM Radio w MC Antenna


  19. #169
    Active Member KJWEB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Location
    Midland, TX
    Posts
    410
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinLV View Post
    The amount of signal sent by the key is directly proportional to the amount of energy it receives from the module.
    See Post #167

    AJ
    Any other ideas why key 1 doesn't work in the ISP cover and key 2 does?
    www.sasspyders.com
    2016 F3T
    2015 Freedom Trailer
    Sypderpops BumpSkid Plate
    Lamonster ISP Key Cover
    Lamonster F3 Bar Clamp and Power Port
    Lamonster RIP floorboards and frame caps
    Lamonster Chevron Highway Pegs
    BajaRon Swaybar & Heim Links
    F4 Custom 21" tinted windshield
    BRP Cannonball Seat
    BRP F3 Idler Pully
    FOBO TPMS
    LidLox (dual)
    Garmin 660LM GPS
    Cat Delete Performance Pipe
    F3T Top Case
    PPA Black Widow Wheels
    Custom Frunk Wrap


  20. #170
    Very Active Member PaladinLV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    869
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by KJWEB View Post
    Any other ideas why key 1 doesn't work in the ISP cover and key 2 does?
    Could be something as little as the placement of the microchip not being in the same position; or the chip or one of it's components in #1 is on the outside limits of tolerance, or the covering of #1 is a little thicker.

    The problem is, I do not believe BRP is staffed to tear down the engineering to get to the route of the problem. If they were, in a case like yours, they would ask for the return of the two keys so a comparison could be made and that is why when the problem occurs they have the dealership replace the DESS module, ignition switch AND keys. They are at the MERCY of the subcontractor.

    The start of the process would be WHAT did we (meaning BRP) change in 2014 from 2013 and earlier. Once you know "what and why" the change was made, it becomes a more simple process to determine the POSSIBLE cause. Like the old adage goes, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

    AJ


    2014 RT-S
    Akrapovic Exhaust & Cat Bypass
    Bajaron Sway Bar w/links / Sena SM-10/Garmin 660
    Comfort Seat w Adjustable Backrest
    Decals by Purple Harley / Magic Strobe
    Kuryakyn Black Widow Pegs Rivco Highway Brackets
    Rivco Trunk Mounted Double Flag Holder
    FOBO / Spyder Cuff / XM Radio w MC Antenna


  21. #171
    Very Active Member Trbayth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Wayne, New Jersey
    Posts
    1,125
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinLV View Post
    The start of the process would be WHAT did we (meaning BRP) change in 2014 from 2013 and earlier. Once you know "what and why" the change was made, it becomes a more simple process to determine the POSSIBLE cause. Like the old adage goes, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
    AJ

    In other threads it's been mentioned that the division of responsibilities changed. Prior to 2014, the DESS module read the chip and told the ECM "yup, you're good to go" or "no way man." Starting in 2014, the DESS module just sends the code from the chip to the ECM and the ECM makes the decision to enable start or not.
    Trb-- (Roger)

    2014 Cognac STL
    Ultimate Seat, Nelson Rigg Tail Pack, Nelson Rigg RS/ST Half Cover, TL fender lights, Squared Away Laser Alignment, BajaRon sway bar and links, Akropovic Sport Silencer

    Spyder States Visited

  22. #172
    Very Active Member Deanna777's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Vermont
    Posts
    6,074
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by PaladinLV View Post
    Could be something as little as the placement of the microchip not being in the same position; or the chip or one of it's components in #1 is on the outside limits of tolerance, or the covering of #1 is a little thicker.

    The problem is, I do not believe BRP is staffed to tear down the engineering to get to the route of the problem. If they were, in a case like yours, they would ask for the return of the two keys so a comparison could be made and that is why when the problem occurs they have the dealership replace the DESS module, ignition switch AND keys. They are at the MERCY of the subcontractor.

    The start of the process would be WHAT did we (meaning BRP) change in 2014 from 2013 and earlier. Once you know "what and why" the change was made, it becomes a more simple process to determine the POSSIBLE cause. Like the old adage goes, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

    AJ
    AJ, the 2nd time I had my D.E.S.S. key code, my dealership reshaped the keys, changed the D.E.S.S. module, ignition switch.

    Last month my dealership made the changes. I went to SQ last week and did not get the D.E.S.S. error. I am glad that I did not, if I did get the D.E.S.S. I would have taken it a Local Can-Am dealership (Artic Adventures) So far I have not had the D.E.S.S. error, If I do get the D.E.S.S. error I will post on thread( mine) Deanna
    2014RTS-SE6 Cognac I am a Happy Spyder Owner!

    BRP Semi-Rigid Rear Side Cargo Travel Bags
    BRP Glove Box Organizer
    Ron-rnet Laser Alignment
    TRIC-LED Spyderpockets
    STV Black Carbon Fiber Windshield Blackout
    WRAPMYSPYDER.COM Sceptor Kit Reflective Decals-Orange
    painted Dashboard+ GPS plug-in
    BRP Half Cover
    WRAPMYSPYDER.COM Air Dam Web Decal Black Reflective
    General Altimax RT 43 Rear tire
    BRP Full cover
    TRIC-LEDS Front Fender Marker Lights & Saddlebag Markers Lights





  23. #173
    Registered Users roddyhelen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    North Fort Myers
    Posts
    9
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1442768669.081057.jpg

    Just had this happen to my 2015 RT-S

    Please help


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  24. #174
    Very Active Member Deanna777's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Vermont
    Posts
    6,074
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by roddyhelen View Post
    ImageUploadedByTapatalk1442768669.081057.jpg

    Just had this happen to my 2015 RT-S

    Please help


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    Call your dealership and take the picture with you to your dealership. Make an appointment with your can-am dealer.

    If it happens again try the other key, and if you get the D.E.S.S. key code again, take both keys with you and walk away for about 1/2 hour. The computer will reboot, it should start, if it does not start call Roadside Assistance.




    Also read my( Deanna777) first thread " D.E.S.S. Key code on a 2014RTS-SE6" and the first post, then read/ see pictures of the D.E.S.S. Hope this helps, keep us posted on what you find out @ your dealership.

    I had this happen on a 2014RT-SE6 cognac. Deanna
    2014RTS-SE6 Cognac I am a Happy Spyder Owner!

    BRP Semi-Rigid Rear Side Cargo Travel Bags
    BRP Glove Box Organizer
    Ron-rnet Laser Alignment
    TRIC-LED Spyderpockets
    STV Black Carbon Fiber Windshield Blackout
    WRAPMYSPYDER.COM Sceptor Kit Reflective Decals-Orange
    painted Dashboard+ GPS plug-in
    BRP Half Cover
    WRAPMYSPYDER.COM Air Dam Web Decal Black Reflective
    General Altimax RT 43 Rear tire
    BRP Full cover
    TRIC-LEDS Front Fender Marker Lights & Saddlebag Markers Lights





  25. #175
    Very Active Member blacklightning's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Apex, N.C.
    Posts
    2,004
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Well, I got my DESS key code error again. The first time it happened, I was able to take the battery cable loose, and reset everything. This time, I was about 250 miles from home, and it did it again. After about 5 minutes, it worked again. Guess I will be taking it in for a service soon and see what my dealer needs to do.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •