Discount Tire DOES NOT want your business

[Pampurrs]

As a fervent darksider I am always looking for problems with my choice to make sure that I am not at risk. Please back up your statement with specifics such as parties involved, Court citations, newspaper articles, or anything else of substance. Or is it the case that your brother's son in-law's uncle by marriage was at a Honda dealership and overheard a conversation where a friend of a friend heard of it in some random newspaper?
Or did you see it on the internet, so it must be true?
To date there have been no documented cases of insurance refusals, accidents as the result of car tire failure on a motorcycle, lawsuits, or any laws in the US that prevent the use of a CT on a motorcycle, and believe me, there are boards where this has been debated long and hard to the point of being ridiculous.

[joebryanjr]

In this lawsuit happy culture they are protecting themselves. While you will take responsibility for your decision there are others who will be callin a lawyer as soon as they have an issue. It is not just for Spyders, it is for all vehicles.

[scooterexpress]

I have a friend who owns a Tire Pros franchise up in Gresham Oregon. I copied this post to him to see what his reaction would be if someone wanted to buy a car tire for their Spyder.

His response: "Hell no, I never turn down money!"

He's coming to visit us in September and he says he will go with me to the local Tire Pros and take care of it.

Pam

pampurrs, your friend is what we could use as a sponsor here hes willing to sell us the tires of your choice right? well if he can get us the tires at good price with shipping i'd buy from him when I need tires just to avoid any/all hassles from anyone else.

[Pampurrs]

pampurrs, your friend is what we could use as a sponsor here hes willing to sell us the tires of your choice right? well if he can get us the tires at good price with shipping i'd buy from him when I need tires just to avoid any/all hassles from anyone else.

Gilbert Tire Pros In Gresham (Portland area), Oregon

http://www.gilbertstirepros.com/

Talk to the owner Craig. He's a good friend of mine.

Pam

[joet82]

HMMM, interesting, I just went to their website (Discounttire.com) and right below where you enter your car/truck info, it has a link where you can search for tires based on their size/brand/winter tires/trailer tires/ATV/UTV tires....seems they do want my business. They have the drop down menus available to those who don't want to go out to their vehicle everytime they need to research new car tires.

[sledmaster]

I continue to be amazed at how many still want to use the Kumho Ecsta tire on the rear. OK, I admit, it lasts a bit longer than the stock POS but there are so many tires that are way better options. The Kumho is really not a very good match, truth be known. IMO, of course, but I have burned through way too many tires since 2007.

I am with Mike, go get one of the many better tires in the 215/60-15 size and never look back. Not that Kumho rear is bad, I run Kumho KH16s on the front of my ST right now and I have burned through several Kumhos on the rear over the years, but there are way better tires out there - traction, wet handling, durability. Do not follow the pied piper any longer!

FYI, I am still running Toyo Proxes 4s on the rears of my Spyders. Damn good tire, and yes it is the exact size, but out of stock now. Have two more left, will have to then switch over to the S-drive at that point, or one of many others, but never again a Kenda, never again a Kumho Ecsta. Not good enough!

There, I feel better now.

[Bob Denman]

Question: Do you think that by going to the 215/60-15 sizing (all other things being equal...); you might reduce the tendency of the bike to hydroplane on wet roads?

[Orange Spyder Man]

The extra information on the paperwork is all CYA from lawsuits.

Next time you go for fast food and buy coffee--you will note that there is a warning on your cup that it is hot and can burn you.

I think a cup of hot coffee is a world of difference away from a new vehicle that a tire company sold defective tires to a manufacturer which caused people's deaths..
I bought a 2002 F150.. and there was no warning that the tires that were on the vehicle may be defective and could cause crashes/rollovers which could result in deaths..
.
osm

[Bob Denman]

[ARtraveler]

Originally Posted by akspyderman The extra information on the paperwork is all CYA from lawsuits.

Next time you go for fast food and buy coffee--you will note that there is a warning on your cup that it is hot and can burn you.

I think a cup of hot coffee is a world of difference away from a new vehicle that a tire company sold defective tires to a manufacturer which caused people's deaths..
I bought a 2002 F150.. and there was no warning that the tires that were on the vehicle may be defective and could cause crashes/rollovers which could result in deaths..
.
osm

Huh! A tad out of context? My reference was made in talking about the required paperwork (make/model of vehicle) to order tires for the Spyder over the internet from Discount Tire.

I made no reference to the Firestone/Ford fiasco. That is a whole different subject being addressed in this thread.

[sledmaster]

Question: Do you think that by going to the 215/60-15 sizing (all other things being equal...); you might reduce the tendency of the bike to hydroplane on wet roads?

I suppose it might be slightly better, but I think the difference would be negligible. The 10mm narrower is so minimal it is just not enough to really notice it. The tread design is going to have far more to do with this than the size difference, IMO. Going to the 215/60-15 sizing is simply to open up the possibilities of what is available. I had always been told the 225 width was selected for cosmetics and to be unique. They wanted a big fat tire so it looked cool. Being unique helps secure more OE replacement sales.

[Pampurrs]

Question: Do you think that by going to the 215/60-15 sizing (all other things being equal...); you might reduce the tendency of the bike to hydroplane on wet roads?

According to what was asserted by a few on the "Hydroplaning" thread, a narrower footprint would result in less tendency to hydroplane. But what do I know

Pam

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I suppose it might be slightly better, but I think the difference would be negligible. The 10mm narrower is so minimal it is just not enough to really notice it. The tread design is going to have far more to do with this than the size difference, IMO. Going to the 215/60-15 sizing is simply to open up the possibilities of what is available. I had always been told the 225 width was selected for cosmetics and to be unique. They wanted a big fat tire so it looked cool. Being unique helps secure more OE replacement sales.

......AND I'm NOT GUESSING ON THIS ........Mike

[Bob Denman]

This might just turn out to be the "Hot Ticket"...

[Highwayman2013]

I suppose it might be slightly better, but I think the difference would be negligible. The 10mm narrower is so minimal it is just not enough to really notice it. The tread design is going to have far more to do with this than the size difference, IMO. Going to the 215/60-15 sizing is simply to open up the possibilities of what is available. I had always been told the 225 width was selected for cosmetics and to be unique. They wanted a big fat tire so it looked cool. Being unique helps secure more OE replacement sales.

I agree the 215/60/15 size has more options and they work great. Right now the best rated one is the General Altimax RT 43.

[Bob Denman]

Deanna just added one; I'm waiting to what she has to say about it...

[Deanna777]

HMMM, interesting, I just went to their website (Discounttire.com) and right below where you enter your car/truck info, it has a link where you can search for tires based on their size/brand/winter tires/trailer tires/ATV/UTV tires....seems they do want my business. They have the drop down menus available to those who don't want to go out to their vehicle everytime they need to research new car tires.

that is what I did when I ordered my General Altimax RT 43 last month. I got the tire on a Monday . No problems Deanna

[Deanna777]

I agree the 215/60/15 size has more options and they work great. Right now the best rated one is the General Altimax RT 43.

with you on General Altimax RT 43 on the ratings. I bought a General Altimax RT 43 last month I do not notice a difference. Deanna

[ThreeWheels]

No I agree. Why play games.
I bought my Kumho through Netzley Tire.
If Kumho dosn't want our business, then I say, vote with your checkbook.

[Deanna777]

Deanna just added one; I'm waiting to what she has to say about it...

Bob, The spyder handles Awesome and I do not notice anything , and I am happy with the General Altimax RT 43. Also, when it comes time to replace the rear tire in the future( 10 years from now) I would buy an other General Altimax RT 43( if they still make it).


Yes, I have driven the spyder on dirt roads and it handles fine. Deanna

[cyclekid58]

I agree the 215/60/15 size has more options and they work great. Right now the best rated one is the General Altimax RT 43.

I also just bought a General Altimax RT43 rear tire, it gets installed Thurs. I have a trip to Canada the end of the month in which I will probably hit rain at some point, might be a bit but I will post my opinion of the tire after I get some miles on it in both wet and dry conditions.

[Deanna777]

Last month I bought a General Altimax RT 43 from Discount Tire( thanks to Blueknight911 for the suggestion) and I do not notice any differences, and the spyder handles Great and I have ridden on dirt roads, have been on long trips.

In the future ( 10 years from now) I would buy an other General Altimax RT 43 to put on the rear of my spyder again. I am very happy with my General Altimax RT43 rear tire.

Dry conditions on the road: no problems, the spyder handles great, nothing unusual, excellent deep tread, (see my pictures of my "General Altimax RT 43 on my rear tire" and look at the tread it has.

Dirt/Gravel Roads: It grips the road. I will post here how the General Altimax RT 43 handles in the rain. Now I am dealing with the DESS KEY CODE issue. Deanna

[Bob Denman]

No I agree. Why play games.
I bought my Kumho through Netzley Tire.
If Kumho dosn't want our business, then I say, vote with your checkbook.

That's where I got mine also!
We'll see how they wear and perform over the next couple of years...

[Deanna777]

I agree the 215/60/15 size has more options and they work great. Right now the best rated one is the General Altimax RT 43.

I bought a General Altimax RT 43 last month( June) the spyder handles great on dry/ dirt road conditions. I have not ridden in the rain yet with my new tire. I am happy with my General Altimax RT 43 Tire. I do not notice anything different. Deanna

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

No I agree. Why play games.
I bought my Kumho through Netzley Tire.
If Kumho dosn't want our business, then I say, vote with your checkbook.

It's not Kumho that's selling you/him the tire....It's Discount tire that's the issue !!!....Kumho would love to sell you their tires ......and if people would just order the tire by size and brand it wouldn't be an issue.....The problem arises when people start asking and answering questions about the purchase !!!!!!!.............But what do I know ...I've never had a problem doing it this way...............Mike