Laser Alignment Bulletin

[ARtraveler]

Well a straight answer would be fine. But if you don't have the answer that's fine, But when you chime in with other off topic comments it makes the original post non existent IMO.

Does the bulletin exist? Most of the time when there is an answer out there, it pops up pretty quickly. This seems like a straight forward thing.

I am also interested in hearing about the answer. Guess I will see if I can find anything.

[trikermutha]

I didn't read this correctly but here is the answer.. I thought maybe they would be more in detail about the alignment specs..
I am trying to get more details on the bulletins


On 3/25/14 BRP issues a service bulletin to their dealers named Roadster alignment specifications, number 2014-6. In this bulletin BRP endorses The True Laser Track patented Laser System and recommends their dealers use this revolutionary new method to align the Spyder.

On 3/25/2015 BRP issues a additional service bulletin to their dealers named Roadster alignment specifications, number 2015-6, endorsing True Laser track for the 2nd year in a row

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Does the bulletin exist? Most of the time when there is an answer out there, it pops up pretty quickly. This seems like a straight forward thing.

I am also interested in hearing about the answer. Guess I will see if I can find anything.

It did last year. I saw it at the dealer when I was talking to him about having Squared Away come up and do alignments.

Here's a comment I made last year, www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?68270-I-ve-been-Squared-Away!-Front-wheel-alignment-done-right! regarding BRP's position about the laser alignment.

An interesting side note. The Moto Tech service manager said that in all his years of association with Can Am products, the Outlaw Laser Alignment system is the first non-BRP maintenance method or product that he has seen BRP endorse. Always before, he said, BRP has either developed the method and equipment, or bought out the system and made it their own.

[ARtraveler]

I didn't read this correctly but here is the answer.. I thought maybe they would be more in detail about the alignment specs..


On 3/25/14 BRP issues a service bulletin to their dealers named Roadster alignment specifications, number 2014-6. In this bulletin BRP endorses The True Laser Track patented Laser System and recommends their dealers use this revolutionary new method to align the Spyder.

On 3/25/2015 BRP issues a additional service bulletin to their dealers named Roadster alignment specifications, number 2015-6, endorsing True Laser track for the 2nd year in a row

PS: The local dealer's appear to not know about either of the above.

[Spyderups]

The alignment is based on the rotor, not the tires. The tires don't have to be on to be aligned. In fact, the BRP procedure requires the tires to be removed. They could do a laser alignment at the factory but they'd have to revise the procedure and/or tools as the tires would not be mounted on the bike and the current procedure is designed to be done with all the tires mounted.

I had mine done at Spyderfest 2 yrs ago.....they did not take tires off.....they pulled center hub cap off and put a laser cap on the front wheels...totally different ride...no wander any more.....Lexington Motorsports in Ky does it when it assembles new ones.....I traded my 12 for a 15 GOOD PEOPLE....Aaron Cocker is the manager.

[trikermutha]

PS: The local dealer's appear to not know about either of the above.

.. Maybe someone will soon..

[PMK]

Kind of a bit disappointing. I purchased the manual from EBay. Seems pretty complete, BRP and all... Sadly, no procedure, whether BRP or anything else explaining how to align the wheels. Maybe I missed it going page by page, but search did not find it either.

PK

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Kind of a bit disappointing. I purchased the manual from EBay. Seems pretty complete, BRP and all... Sadly, no precedure, whether BRP or anything else explaining how to align the wheels. Maybe I missed it going page by page, but search did not find it either.

PK

In the 2013 service manual the BRP method to align to the frame is in Subsection XX (Steering (DPS) and Front Wheels)

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

PS: The local dealer's appear to not know about either of the above.

The owner of Moto Tech did not know about it either. He searched the BRP tech bulletins while I was standing there and found it and read it. That's when he decided to let Squared Away use his service dept driveway to do alignments.

The tech told me earlier this summer he has gotten pretty fast and good using the factory method and was having good results, although he still agreed the laser was a better method.

[PMK]

In the 2013 service manual the BRP method to align to the frame is in Subsection XX (Steering (DPS) and Front Wheels)

Not to disagree with your 2013 manual, the same section is referred to in the 14 manual also. Check the image below for the wording. They use this same phrase for alignment many times and anytime a front suspension component is replaced.

Sadly the Steering (DPS) and Front Wheels section is only 4 pages long. There is one image illustrating the steering components and torque values. The following three pages all deal with Steering Angle Sensor troubleshooting and replacement. The chapter ends and goes into Front Suspension.

My 2014 RT manual does not have a front end alignment section, unless it is buried somewhere other than where they say it is.

PK

[trikermutha]

Not to disagree with your 2013 manual, the same section is referred to in the 14 manual also. Check the image below for the wording. They use this same phrase for alignment many times and anytime a front suspension component is replaced.

Sadly the Steering (DPS) and Front Wheels section is only 4 pages long. There is one image illustrating the steering components and torque values. The following three pages all deal with Steering Angle Sensor troubleshooting and replacement. The chapter ends and goes into Front Suspension.

My 2014 RT manual does not have a front end alignment section, unless it is buried somewhere other than where they say it is.

PK

I just looked at my manual and seen nothing for alignments..

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

I just looked at my manual and seen nothing for alignments..

In the section I noted above, do you not have a section that begins ADJUSTMENT STEERING ALIGNMENT VERIFICATION? The first tool in the Required Items list is the PITMAN ARM LOCKING TOOL.

[PMK]

In the section I noted above, do you not have a section that begins ADJUSTMENT STEERING ALIGNMENT VERIFICATION? The first tool in the Required Items list is the PITMAN ARM LOCKING TOOL.

Not in my manual...

PK

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Not in my manual...

PK

Interesting! I wonder why not. Here's the section from the 2013 RT manual.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...02013%20RT.pdf

[2 Cruysyn]

Anyone have access to bulletin number 2015-6 about the laser alignments???

Not the bulletin requested (can't imagine it's that much different) but after a bit of looking my local service manager stumbled on "Service Bulletin 2014-6 Roadster Alignment Specifications" which states in part "True Laser Track is a recommended supplier of laser alignment kits..." The file size exceeds the limit imposed for posting it here but I have deposited it in a folder on "Box" which you can retrieve here.

[BajaRon]

So much for my original post..Wish we stay on topic sometimes..

Like gravity, you can fight it, you can get mad at it, you can even try to ignore it. But it will never go away.

[PMK]

Honestly, for the DIY person, the BRP info list specs for toe in regards to ride height.

That info along with this calculator can be used if you have the desire to align at home. Overall though, getting it done by those that have the tools and are familiar with the settings may be easier for most people.

The interesting part is that on newer vehicles, BRP is concerned about the rider weight in how it effects toe in or more correctly, bump steer.

To use this calculator for a three wheeled vehicle, simply combine the left and right rear wheels into one, and take the dimension shown. As with all Spyder alignments, the rear wheel must be positioned first to have the belt track properly.

https://robrobinette.com/DIYAlignmentCalculator.htm

PK

[trikermutha]

Not the bulletin requested (can't imagine it's that much different) but after a bit of looking my local service manager stumbled on "Service Bulletin 2014-6 Roadster Alignment Specifications" which states in part "True Laser Track is a recommended supplier of laser alignment kits..." The file size exceeds the limit imposed for posting it here but I have deposited it in a folder on "Box" which you can retrieve here.

Thank you that answers my post. Good Stuff..

[trikermutha]

Honestly, for the DIY person, the BRP info list specs for toe in regards to ride height.

That info along with this calculator can be used if you have the desire to align at home. Overall though, getting it done by those that have the tools and are familiar with the settings may be easier for most people.

The interesting part is that on newer vehicles, BRP is concerned about the rider weight in how it effects toe in or more correctly, bump steer.

To use this calculator for a three wheeled vehicle, simply combine the left and right rear wheels into one, and take the dimension shown. As with all Spyder alignments, the rear wheel must be positioned first to have the belt track properly.

https://robrobinette.com/DIYAlignmentCalculator.htm

PK

Good Info !!!

[jaherbst]

The problem is, the company hasn't yet completely penetrated the dealer market, which makes it hard for many of us to get laser alignment without traveling hundreds of miles. In my case, the nearest dealer is in Las Vegas which is about 350 miles from me. I talked to Spyder Comfort and they said that Ride Now has ordered them for their stores here in the Phoenix area. Hopefully, they will be up and running sometime in mid July. I don't have any reason to believe my brand new Spyder is out of alignment, but based on what I've read here, it would be worth $125 for the peace of mind.

Pam

Square Away has done two Laser Alignments here at my Hanger in Tucson for everyone. If enough interest is generated I am sure we will be doing another.

Jack

[trikermutha]

Like gravity, you can fight it, you can get mad at it, you can even try to ignore it. But it will never go away.