Oil Analysis Report

[KJWEB]

I'm creeping up on the first oil change, 3,000 miles. I'm going with Amsoil like I've used in all my other bikes. What is the correct wt, 10w 40 or 10w 30 for the 1330?

[NU2Spyder]

Never heard of initial shear reduction being expected and normal. When I tested my Amsoil 10/40 after an 8,000 mile run to Alaska and back in my 2011 RT, it showed at the very high end of the 30 spec -- 12.06. I thought that was pretty darn good for the miles. And the V-twin is turning about twice as fast as the 1330. The wear and tear from the transmission would be the same but the engine counts in there, too. I don't like the idea of using a "blend" which is what BRP is now doing rather that their full synthetic. I put full synthetic Amsoil in my 1330 at 1,000 miles and just did it again after 3K additional. Now I'll run a longer distance (still not 9K). Maybe then I'll get it analyzed.

I used Mobil 1 motorcycle oil for about 100K in my Gold Wing and also in my 650 V-Strom. Good stuff as much as I can tell. I believe, but can't prove, my 'Wing used less oil with the Mobil 1 than when I ran Amsoil in it. That's based on how many additions I made on cross country trips. But I have no analysis or factual data to prove that. I would use it in the Spyder but it's only JASO MA1 not MA2. Since the V-twins had a few cases of clutch slipping, I don't want to take a chance on anything less than JASO MA2. Maybe the 1330's won't have that problem but I don't feel like taking a chance. I wish BRP would come out with hard, fast specs including JASO instead of just saying, "Trust us. Use our oil. It's really good."

Thanks for the informative post. And let us know how the Mobil 1 does. That will be an interesting comparison.

I am new to spyder and a little confused with all the buz on oil. Approaching 1000 miles on my 2014 RT-S and planning to make my first oil change with Amsoil. Now the questions are, at what mileage and which Amsoil oil do I use? Your opinion is highly regarded and I would appreciate your response.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

On BITOG forum, over the years, I have read many comments about blends being as little as 10% and a few at 30%. Just wondering if the BRP rep got his numbers backwards and that their Blend is 70% conventional, 30% syntetic?

......Your numbers sound way more believable ..............imo.......Mike

[gypsy_100]

I am new to spyder and a little confused with all the buz on oil. Approaching 1000 miles on my 2014 RT-S and planning to make my first oil change with Amsoil. Now the questions are, at what mileage and which Amsoil oil do I use?

If you go with Amsoil, you want their 10/40 MOTORCYCLE Oil. It used to be called just 10-40 Motorcycle Oil. I see they are playing marketing games and the new stock is labeled 10-40 Metric Motorcycle Oil. I never try to understand the logic of marketing but if you see either one of these, that is what you want. As for mileage, you can read all the oil threads including this one and come to your own conclusions. Enjoy the RT -- great, fun machine.

[Xyzzy]

" 70 % " ?????.................personally I wouldn't bet on that...jmho....Mike

I took this screenshot from a BRP training video.

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/s...=1#post1034679

[JayBros]

I am new to spyder and a little confused with all the buz on oil. Approaching 1000 miles on my 2014 RT-S and planning to make my first oil change with Amsoil. Now the questions are, at what mileage and which Amsoil oil do I use? Your opinion is highly regarded and I would appreciate your response.

Why do you feel the need to change the oil 2,000 miles early? Yes, I recognize Amsoil synthetic has a superior reputation but why the rush? BRP tested the out of their XPS Blend and it is good oil. There will probably be some small metal particles on the clutch cover drain plug magnet but that's what the magnet is there for. Unless you're going to have it analyzed to know how much the viscosity has sheared down its some effort to dump oil that has useful life in it. Are you willing to follow the manufacturer's recommended intervals, 3000 for first change and 9,300 thereafter, or are you going to follow an interval program that is based viscosity shear?

[jcthorne]

Had my first service done on my F3 at the dealer. Had them install Rotella T6. Runs much smoother and the shifting is smoother too. Lots of mechanical noise from the engine is gone. They commented that quite a number of their customers are using the Rotella in various bike models.

We will stick with the Valvoline Motorcycle oil in Louise 998.

[Bob Denman]

Jc,
What's the viscosity on the T6 oil?
(Sorry; I haven't done my homework on it... )

Glad to hear that you like the results!

[Xyzzy]

What's the viscosity on the T6 oil?

5W40

[MikeT]

Thanks for this information!
I think that I will try BRP's synthetic oil at my next change... (About six weeks from now...)

Did you change to the XPS Full Synthetic? I got an email reply from XPS Lubricants that told me that the stuff in the Yellow Bottle is a 0W-40 product.

[Bob Denman]

5W40

Thanks!
The rest of the Gang sends their regards...

[trikermutha]

I'm creeping up on the first oil change, 3,000 miles. I'm going with Amsoil like I've used in all my other bikes. What is the correct wt, 10w 40 or 10w 30 for the 1330?

Amsoil is 10W40 metric full synthetic oil..I waited till my 3rd oil change before I went full synthetic. The amsoil oil really makes the quiet and smooth running IMO. Shifting is even less clunky..

[DrewNJ]

Amsoil is 10W40 metric full synthetic oil..I waited till my 3rd oil change before I went full synthetic. The amsoil oil really makes the quiet and smooth running IMO. Shifting is even less clunky..

What is "metric full synthetic" [emoji38]

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[jcthorne]

Jc,
What's the viscosity on the T6 oil?
(Sorry; I haven't done my homework on it... )

Glad to hear that you like the results!

5W40 Full Synthetic HD Engine Oil

And just FYI, Amazon has it on sale today for $16.23 a gallon delivered if you are a Prime member.

[Bob Denman]

Many Thanks!

[trikermutha]

What is "metric full synthetic" [emoji38]

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Here ya go


http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produc...?code=mcfqt-ea

[trikermutha]

5W40 Full Synthetic HD Engine Oil

And just FYI, Amazon has it on sale today for $16.23 a gallon delivered if you are a Prime member.

I was at auto zone and noticed it was on sale at 14.99 last week.

[DrewNJ]

Here ya go [emoji106]


http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produc...?code=mcfqt-ea

Marketing at its finest....[emoji23]

[trikermutha]

Marketing at its finest....[emoji23]

[jcthorne]

I was at auto zone and noticed it was on sale at 14.99 last week.

I too saw Rotella on sale at Autozone for $14.99 but that was T5 which is NOT synthetic. T6 normally runs $26 at Autozone and $23 at Wallyworld. Perhaps your Autozon marked down the wrong one which would have been a great deal to snatch up.

[jcthorne]

Marketing at its finest....[emoji23]

I have never thought much of Amsoil's pyramid marketing scheme. In fact its one of the main reasons I avoid it. Also their refusal to test per API standards. It may be a great product but they cannot prove it and I won't buy what they are trying to push. The rest of the petroleum lubricants industry works to a set of standards and fosters the standards organization. Amsoil works around it and will never be mainstream because of that.

[Dubliner]

http://www.autoserviceprofessional.c...ne-oil-for-you

[Tango]

Our Wally World had the Shell T-6 on mark down for $14.50 for the 4qt. jug today. Mobil 1 5-40 was $26+.. Tom

[Tango]

Tango, please let it be known that the Mobil 1 for motorcycles does not come in 5w40. You must run the Mobil 1 motorcycle oil or the energy conserving molecules will cause harm to the wet clutch.

There are many variations of Mobil 1 oil. You must run the proper stuff to prevent damage to friction components.

PK

It's 5-40 SL, SM. Did not look to see if it was energy conserving. It's HD oil for Diesel engines. I have yet to see any oil rated over 30wt. come in energy conserving. Tom

[BajaRon]

" 70 % " ?????.................personally I wouldn't bet on that...jmho....Mike

Not trying to pick sides here. But based on everything I've read. Typical ratios run from 10% (most common) to a high of 30% synthetic in a blended product. The price difference wouldn't be that great if the blended were already 70% synthetic. Maybe he meant 70% dino and 30% synthetic. That would still put the BRP blend at the high end of the pack.