I had a code flash on my dash today. I had just filled up and was rolling out of the gas station. I have a heel toe shifter and sometimes it doesn't fully engage when downshifting from second to first. It seemed to happen and then the code "Failure" flashed on my screen. I popped it into first and it immediately went out. I was on a Club ride and we rode 400 miles today. My bike was perfect from then on with no incidents. Anyone know what "Failure" indicates?
2012 Spyder RS SM5 - Steel Black Metallic"The Murder" Southern Cruisers Riding Club - Chapter 072 - Northern Illinois Two Brothers M2 Pipe; TB Juice Box; Hartco Custom Saddle; Rivco Driver Floorboards; Rivco Heel Toe Shifter; ESI Highway Pegs & Brackets; ESI 4.5" Easy Riser Handlebar Risers; BajaRon Sway Bar; Cycle Sounds Series 3 200 Watt Sound System; 14" Touring Windshield; Custom Dynamics Mirror Extensions; Kuryakyn ISO Grips; Kuryakyn Throttle Boss; Kuryakyn End Weights; Frunk Liner.
need more to go on. Failure...?? A missed or hung up shift usually gives you an E in the gear position or you get a code for the gear position sensor. If its a quick miss then clears it should be fine. Adjust the shifter to avoid this especially if to close to the floorboards...
Gene and Ilana De Laney Mt. Helix, California
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This computers obviously didn't like something that it felt.
It won't automatically flash the codes: you have to go and get them.
Do you know how to pull the codes from your bike?
Think of it as a, "shot being fired across your Bow..."
The gas station fillup/flash a code scenario happens quite a lot.
IMO--it is usually caused by the driver trying to rush the start up procedure. The "nanny" gets mad and fires the proverbial shot across your bow.
If less than 5 minutes or so during the fillup, when keying the ignition, the main screen will come on allowing you to step on the brake, push the starter, and you are up an running.
If you exceed the time above (your machine may vary), you are then required to push the mode button and "play the game."
Sometimes, but not always, the does not like fast shifts up front. The famous "E" will show up.
The fact you were on a group ride, causes me to think that something above happened. The fact that all was well thereafter, seems to confirm same.
Last edited by ARtraveler; 06-01-2015 at 12:38 PM.
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The only time I've seen the word "Failure" is during the "Break Failure" message.
It just may have been a fluke, or you may want to keep an eye on your break fluid level. Sometimes it only takes a teaspoon full, to bring it up to where it should be.
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I think I missed the word that flashed before Failure. Like I said it cleared and did not reappear. How do you check codes after the fact?
Pulling codes on an RS?
Sorry; RT jockey here...
We need an RS Pilot to step up to the plate...
The computers will only the show the active codes that are giving it fits at that moment.
You need to hook it up to a BUDS diagnostics unit, in order to pull up all of the stored codes...
The gas station fillup/flash a code scenario happens quite a lot.
IMO--it is usually caused by the driver trying to rush the start up procedure. The "nanny" gets mad and fires the proverbial shot across your bow.
If less than 5 minutes or so during the fillup, when keying the ignition, the main screen will come on allowing you to step on the brake, push the starter, and you are up an running.
If you exceed the time above (your machine may vary), you are then required to push the mode button and "play the game."
Sometimes, but not always, the does not like fast shifts up front. The famous "E" will show up.
The fact you were on a group ride, causes me to think that something above happened. The fact that all was well thereafter, seems to confirm same.
This is just what happened. I was in a hurry because the guys were waiting for me. I also probably over-filled the tank a little. Anyway, we rode 400 hard miles on the day without any problems. Thanks for the input.
2012 Spyder RS SM5 - Steel Black Metallic"The Murder" Southern Cruisers Riding Club - Chapter 072 - Northern Illinois Two Brothers M2 Pipe; TB Juice Box; Hartco Custom Saddle; Rivco Driver Floorboards; Rivco Heel Toe Shifter; ESI Highway Pegs & Brackets; ESI 4.5" Easy Riser Handlebar Risers; BajaRon Sway Bar; Cycle Sounds Series 3 200 Watt Sound System; 14" Touring Windshield; Custom Dynamics Mirror Extensions; Kuryakyn ISO Grips; Kuryakyn Throttle Boss; Kuryakyn End Weights; Frunk Liner.
I built a site that will tell you how to check the codes and what they mean. It is still up, I haven't updated it in awhile. Probably in Aug when the domain name expires I'm going to take it down. I don't think anybody really uses it. Go to www.spyderhelp.com
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I built a site that will tell you how to check the codes and what they mean. It is still up, I haven't updated it in awhile. Probably in Aug when the domain name expires I'm going to take it down. I don't think anybody really uses it. Go to www.spyderhelp.com
Thanks Bob, that does help. I used the site to help a guy out at spyderfest who was getting a code that he didn't know what was. Most people are wanting native apps now instead of web apps. I remember hearing somewhere that BRP was supposed to be coming out with and app but I haven't seen it and can't remember where I seen that at.
Current: 2018 F3 Limited
Previous: 2011 RT with 622 Trailer
Mods:
F4 Customs 25" Windshield
F4 Customs Air Wings
Spyderpops Top Case/Seat Extender
TackForm Phone Mount
Lamonster Ram Ball Handlebar Mount
Show Chrome Passenger Armrests
I built a site that will tell you how to check the codes and what they mean. It is still up, I haven't updated it in awhile. Probably in Aug when the domain name expires I'm going to take it down. I don't think anybody really uses it. Go to www.spyderhelp.com
I just used the site, thanks Deanna
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Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
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Sway Bar with Links
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Glad it helped and you are welcome. I did just update some of the dealers the other day and added a new one. If you see anything that needs updating let me know. If use picks up I probably will renew the name. There is an email link at the bottom of the page. www.spyderhelp.com
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Previous: 2011 RT with 622 Trailer
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F4 Customs 25" Windshield
F4 Customs Air Wings
Spyderpops Top Case/Seat Extender
TackForm Phone Mount
Lamonster Ram Ball Handlebar Mount
Show Chrome Passenger Armrests
I got the DESS KEY CODE on my spyder, here are pictures of what I got:
It is a good thing that I was @ home, when the above happened. I tried the other spare key, and I got the same DESS KEY CODE, then I took both keys, walked away from the spyder & waited about 5 minutes, tired it again and the spyder did not start. I tried both keys and I got the same DESS KEY CODE.
Question: If I was on the road when the above happened would the factory warranty cover it?
Also I have Towing & Labor cost coverage on my insurance policy, would my insurance policy cover it?
Or would the Roadside Assistance cover it?
Deanna
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
I got the DESS KEY CODE on my spyder, here are pictures of what I got:
It is a good thing that I was @ home, when the above happened. I tried the other spare key, and I got the same DESS KEY CODE, then I took both keys, walked away from the spyder & waited about 5 minutes, tired it again and the spyder did not start. I tried both keys and I got the same DESS KEY CODE.
Question: If I was on the road when the above happened would the factory warranty cover it?
Also I have Towing & Labor cost coverage on my insurance policy, would my insurance policy cover it?
Or would the Roadside Assistance cover it?
Deanna
Is your Spyder completely disabled because of this? If so, this is very dreadful!
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That's not a code... 
does not like fast shifts up front. The famous "E" will show up.
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