Bought a kit for a 1330 but it is for the sm 6. I need the se6. Question is,,,do I just need to get just a new filter? Will all the O rings in this kit fit or will I need new O rings also?
I can't return it or exchange it. I bought the kit for less than the oil cost so I'm not real disappointed.
Bought a kit for a 1330 but it is for the sm 6. I need the se6. Question is,,,do I just need to get just a new filter? Will all the O rings in this kit fit or will I need new O rings also?
I can't return it or exchange it. I bought the kit for less than the oil cost so I'm not real disappointed.
You only need a transmission filter if the 1300 has one call Baja Ron for filters and o rings
there should not be a difference. The Se6 will need a trans filter change at 28,000 miles but otherwise only the engine filter. Only the 998 engine needed both filters for the Se5 and the sigle engine filter for the Sm5. Make sure your kit is for the 1330 ACE engine...
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I looked in the Parts Catalog and can't find the transmission filter.
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I'm confused with the different responses. Here is a picture of the label on the kit and another picture in the accessories book. If the filters are the same, why the different catalog numbers? To me, the label suggest that it will work on the 1330 but the stock number suggest that it is for the SM6 and not for the SE6.
The SM6 oil filter has only one opening. The SE6 has two openings. I had to drive 80 miles one way when the dealer gave me the kit for the SM6. Had the bike tore down ready to change the filter and found out I had the wrong one. A very costly mistake. Take a look at the round filter. It will only have one opening if it is for the SM6.
Also, I was told that BRP rarely replaces the O rings. That was why they didn't stock them at the dealer. And yet, when they invoice you for the oil change, many shops are charging for them even though they are not used.
The SM6 oil filter has only one opening. The SE6 has two openings. I had to drive 80 miles one way when the dealer gave me the kit for the SM6. Had the bike tore down ready to change the filter and found out I had the wrong one. A very costly mistake. Take a look at the round filter. It will only have one opening if it is for the SM6.
Also, I was told that BRP rarely replaces the O rings. That was why they didn't stock them at the dealer. And yet, when they invoice you for the oil change, many shops are charging for them even though they are not used.
My filter has one hole in it all the way thru right in the middle. It is open on both ends. Is that what you mean. As you can see the kit is for a SM6 according to the numbers. I'll go to the dealer near me and compare the filters.
Pretty sure that the only difference is the amount of oil. There are bunch of o-rings and a couple of crush washers for both.
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BRP SM6 and SE6 oil change kits are identical except for the SE6 kit has 7 quarts of oil and the SM6 kit has 6 quarts of oil. You only need 5 quarts of oil for either the SM6 or the SE6 so it is a complete mystery as to why BRP puts and extra quart in the SE6 kit.
The filter is the same for both. It is open at both ends.
The SM5/SE5 OEM oil filter can be either open at both ends or closed at one end as the filter cap effectively seals that end of the filter anyway. But of course the 998 V-Twin filters will not interchange with the 1330 3 cylinder.
BRP SM6 and SE6 oil change kits are identical except for the SE6 kit has 7 quarts of oil and the SM6 kit has 6 quarts of oil. You only need 5 quarts of oil for either the SM6 or the SE6 so it is a complete mystery as to why BRP puts and extra quart in the SE6 kit.
The filter is the same for both. It is open at both ends.
The SM5/SE5 OEM oil filter can be either open at both ends or closed at one end as the filter cap effectively seals that end of the filter anyway. But of course the 998 V-Twin filters will not interchange with the 1330 3 cylinder.
Thanks for the explanation, I have 6 qts in the kit that I have. It is good to know that I'll be okay with the sm6 kit. No wonder the dealers can't get it right half the time. I won't go into detail why I had to return to dealership three time to get an extra key made.
I just hate when the dealer( stealer)ship screws you over.
I was quoted $250 over the phone. then $300 at the shop, final bill======$336 pissed me off
And yes they charged me for 7 quarts of thier "gold fortified" oil" On top of that they charged for all the O rings individually rather than the oil change kit. They didn't charge to put in the magnetic drain plugs . But the Allen socket on one of the plugs was stripped( the Torx was fine).
I will now avoid this stealership as much as I can. They ( Michaels powersports of Reno) will get as little of my $$$ as possible.
How do I tell BRP about these guys??????
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I just hate when the dealer( stealer)ship screws you over.
I was quoted $250 over the phone. then $300 at the shop, final bill======$336 pissed me off
And yes they charged me for 7 quarts of thier "gold fortified" oil" On top of that they charged for all the O rings individually rather than the oil change kit. They didn't charge to put in the magnetic drain plugs . But the Allen socket on one of the plugs was stripped( the Torx was fine).
I will now avoid this stealership as much as I can. They ( Michaels powersports of Reno) will get as little of my $$$ as possible.
How do I tell BRP about these guys??????
Kaos
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Odd as it is, the box for the SE had 7 quarts. I know the manual says less and when I did that change, I went back and double checked.
Still have one unopened qt and about a 1/2 qt sitting on the shelf.
Free to anyone wanting to come by and get it.
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Keep the oil and next change buy 4 quarts. Its comes in qt containers too. Buy the filter separately, and pay the dealer for changing it if you can't do it yourself. O rings do
not need to be changed each time unless one should get nicked or torn during removal.
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I hate this stealership!!!
. But the Allen socket on one of the plugs was stripped( the Torx was fine).
