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Warner Bros. scraps Dukes of Hazzard car toys over Confederate flag controversy
http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/23/88...nfederate-flag
Just like that... the General Lee is lumped in with symbols of hate.. (for the record I don't agree)
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I agree; with your not agreeing...
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I think the General Lee Spyder looks awesome. Funny to see it with the whole flag thing of late.
I agree that F3's are badass . I nearly flew off mine yesterday-got so startled when a truck next to me started honking like mad (BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP!!!) just to get my attention and give me thumbs up! LOL
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That flag means nothing to me. It means a great deal to a lot of people. Historical significance for some. A symbol of hate for others, not much different than a swastika. That symbol is fairly universally hated for many millions of reasons! For some the Stars and Bars is a hated symbol. To me it's just dumb. The good guys won the Civil War, so why you would want to continue to fly the losing Flag, makes no sense. That a--h--- was going to do what he did whether they were flying the Stars and Bars or not. So fly it if you want.
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Yep, the battle flag is the one causing the uproar. However, some knucklehead did come out yesterday and called for Old Glory to be taken down forever too... not in my neighborhood. ..
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Originally Posted by SDM
Commander, the stars and bars refers to the 1st official flag of the Confederate States of America: There were 3 versions and this was the 1st. The American Flag is the stars and stripes.
Glad you said it so I didn't have to give the history lesson!
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Originally Posted by jwulf74
Yep, the battle flag is the one causing the uproar. However, some knucklehead did come out yesterday and called for Old Glory to be taken down forever too... not in my neighborhood. ..
It was this knucklehead:
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/...can-flag-down/
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Originally Posted by Pirate looks at --
Aren't we kinda over the Stars and Bars?
Its more a symbol of Southern Pride now.
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Originally Posted by Rogue Hawk
Its more a symbol of Southern Pride now.
But the question is, who's pride? It's certainly not a symbol of pride for every American citizen that lives south of the Mason-Dixon line.
It seems to me that some folks have forgotten that they are still free to fly any flag they want on their own property. Public (Government) property is a whole different story. Public property belongs to all the citizens and therefore must be all inclusive or excluded to all. There is no middle ground.
As much as I am tempted to, I will not invoke Godwin's Law.
Does the confederate battle flag offend me? Not in the slightest. I grew up watching 'The Dukes of Hazard' and loved it. (mostly because of Daisy). I am also a Caucasian male. That fact pretty much puts me on the top tier of opportunity in the United States.
I am not trying to get a political debate going or cause any problems on a site I love and I am not a 'glass half full' or 'glass half empty' kinda guy. I try to look at the reality of things from all perspectives. An eight ounce glass containing four ounces of water equals four ounces of water. Four ounces of water in a 16 ounce glass is still equal to four ounces of water.
Is there some overreaction going on? You bet there is... on both sides. Is it time to relegate the past to the past and keep it as a history lesson that freedom and equality is a right everyone on this planet should have? You're damn right it is.
Like it or not, many countries in the world take their queues from us. We can be the excuse for oppression and bigotry or a light for freedom. We better get it right and get it right fast.
News travels at the speed of electrons now.
In the end, I really have only one hope. That hope is that in my lifetime I will see all American citizens recognized and perceived as truly equal. Regardless of the melanin content of their skin cells, or who they love, or what religion they follow, or their gender, or salary, or anything other than the simple fact that they are just as human as me and we all bleed red.
That remains my hope.
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Well said. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by Pirate looks at --
Glad you said it so I didn't have to give the history lesson!
I stand corrected, thank you
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Originally Posted by CanAmChris
But the question is, who's pride? It's certainly not a symbol of pride for every American citizen that lives south of the Mason-Dixon line.
It seems to me that some folks have forgotten that they are still free to fly any flag they want on their own property. Public (Government) property is a whole different story. Public property belongs to all the citizens and therefore must be all inclusive or excluded to all. There is no middle ground.
As much as I am tempted to, I will not invoke Godwin's Law.
Does the confederate battle flag offend me? Not in the slightest. I grew up watching 'The Dukes of Hazard' and loved it. (mostly because of Daisy). I am also a Caucasian male. That fact pretty much puts me on the top tier of opportunity in the United States.
I am not trying to get a political debate going or cause any problems on a site I love and I am not a 'glass half full' or 'glass half empty' kinda guy. I try to look at the reality of things from all perspectives. An eight ounce glass containing four ounces of water equals four ounces of water. Four ounces of water in a 16 ounce glass is still equal to four ounces of water.
Is there some overreaction going on? You bet there is... on both sides. Is it time to relegate the past to the past and keep it as a history lesson that freedom and equality is a right everyone on this planet should have? You're damn right it is.
Like it or not, many countries in the world take their queues from us. We can be the excuse for oppression and bigotry or a light for freedom. We better get it right and get it right fast.
News travels at the speed of electrons now.
In the end, I really have only one hope. That hope is that in my lifetime I will see all American citizens recognized and perceived as truly equal. Regardless of the melanin content of their skin cells, or who they love, or what religion they follow, or their gender, or salary, or anything other than the simple fact that they are just as human as me and we all bleed red.
That remains my hope.
It is controversial and divisive and should not be an official symbol on state property. Private citizens can do what they want. When I was in the service, I knew a man from Alabama. To him, and many others, its about the bravery of the officers and men, which can't be disputed. Also, the rift between the North and South at the time was over state sovereignty. From what I understand, slavery became more of an issue later in the war.
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