Texas shootout

[Bob Denman]

So what did they do to deserve being slaughtered because they were having a knife fight?

Wow...

[Dan McNally]

Unverified photo from right before the fight started . . .

[Bob Denman]

[Orange Spyder Man]

All of the bikers that were killed were shot by police

I'll bet no group will demonstrate or burn in Waco because of these cop shootings... heck .. after all .. they are just bikers..

osm

[wyliec]

This from 3 minutes ago, as of 9:09 A.M.:
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/..._flee_gun.html

I don't think anyone, who wasn't there, knows what actually happened. I find it a little strange when someone is judge, jury, and executioner, and accuses another of profiling (like I was).

[AY4B]

You haven't seen video of the incident and don't believe the media. So what is the source of your information that the police shot all the dead?

I already gave the source in an earlier post with 2 links. They give the names and ages of the dead, the names of all the MC 's and what actually happened.

[AY4B]

Before this thread gets axed, ill post links to support what I said. These were Human beings for whom Christ died. What are we becoming when we look down on someone because they ride a different motorcycle? Some of the clubs there were vets and christian ministries.
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/...lice-massacre/
http://www.agingrebel.com/12873

The shove in the bathroom became a scuffle in the restaurant. When about 30 Bandidos, Cossacks, Scimitars and other bikers spilled into the parking between the Twin peaks and the Don Carlos Mexican restaurant next door, the police were waiting for them. The scuffle became a knife fight and several men were stabbed. When one of the combatants produced a gun the Swat team opened fire with automatic weapons. Multiple sources have told The Aging Rebel that all of the dead were killed by police.

[AY4B]

This video explains the history of the feud between the Bandidos and the Cossacks, and explains also that the Cossacks are not an outlaw club but have actually people in all walks of life as members including law enforcement. My guess is that the fight started in the bathroom between an embeded LEO and a Banndido.
https://youtu.be/hXx3tjJ7dMg

[Bob Denman]

There is an awful lot of "supposition", in your guesses...
Why not let the forensic experts take a run at; rather than quote folks who may either:
1. not know what they saw...
or
2. have their own agenda in mind...

[mowin]

. The scuffle became a knife fight and several men were stabbed. When one of the combatants produced a gun the Swat team opened fire with automatic weapons..

So, some scum bags pulled a gun and the cops defused the situation. I'd say they did a good job....

[Cruzr Joe]

If the cops stood by and did nothing everyone would be on their case for not doing their job. I think the cops probably saved more lives than they took, even if all 9 were shot by the police, in the initial reports it was mentioned that the police returned fire after being shot at as they encountered the M/G gangs. I was not there and don't even pretend to know what happened but until it is verified, i will take the stand that the police were at least there for a good reason.


Cruzr Joe

[Bob Denman]

As I said: let the experts look over the evidence...

Look what happened the last time folks starting "jumping the gun"...

[ARtraveler]

I am also of the opinion that the "who shot John" discussions should wait until forensic evidence is brought forth.

The upside, is that no innocent bystanders were involved in the frackus.

Other information (sadly-from the internet) states that over 320 weapons were confiscated. This included guns, knives, chains with attached padlocks, and brass knuckles. People came to the meeting prepared to defend themselves or to start something. An incident just waiting to happen. Gang culture dictates that you will defend your gang and your members to the death. It appears they were ready and willing to do just that.

Not as bad, but similar to the gang fight that happened in Las Vegas a few years back. I believe there were also some deaths in that one.

[Orange Spyder Man]

let me say this... coming back from the Biloxi Blow Out about 8 years ago.. one of the bikers in our group had a flat on his bike.. 3 Banditos were the only people that stopped to help... they knew a small shop owner than came out (late sunday evening) we took off the rear rim/tire ... and went to the small shop and replaced the tire with a serviceable tire... they charged $75.00 for the tire .. NO LABOR..
so all Banditos are not all criminals.. so the folks that stand on their soap boxes and judge... don't judge a book by its cover !!!

osm

[scottnkansas]

If the cops stood by and did nothing everyone would be on their case for not doing their job. I think the cops probably saved more lives than they took, even if all 9 were shot by the police, in the initial reports it was mentioned that the police returned fire after being shot at as they encountered the M/G gangs. I was not there and don't even pretend to know what happened but until it is verified, i will take the stand that the police were at least there for a good reason.


Cruzr Joe

I'm with Joe on this one. It seems as if the police are damned if the do something and damned if they don't. I don't think wearing that badge is an easy job.


Scott

[Bob Denman]

It often appears to be a thankless job... and that's a shame!

[mowin]

X2.... Just heard on the news the gangs put a hit out on the cops and there families. Fine pillers of the community??

[Oldmanzues]

I wonder how many bikers were shot by police.. not other bikers ?

osm

Where are the facts ?? Not media propaganda by the phy warfare unit of the PD". Feds wanted to ban all sport bikes because all were to dangerous to ride. Many medical insurance do not cover motorcycle of any kind. Check yours to make sure. If i had stopped there to look at the bikes, I would have arrested and charged in this case. One thing that really concerns me, several killed by head shots, mark of a trained sniper to me.
I go back to a era where if you rode a motorcycle at at all, you were a hood and should be avoided at all costs
Oldmanzues

[Oldmanzues]

Good

Please remember to many you are a biker because you ride
Oldmanzues

[Bob Denman]

Just what does that term mean to you?
Are you a "Biker", if you own a motorcycle?
Is it more brand specific than that?
Is there a mileage commitment?
What does it mean?
Is it even important?

[Oldmanzues]

Buzz words like biker can mean what the person wants it to be. A Hog rider is a horrible person, everybody knows that. Unarmed is more important then anything else, even thou the person is huge and half your age. A thug is what ? Only a sissy would ride a Gold Wing, by the way, I have a friend in Marine recon who might argue that point with you, since he rides one. No one group has the lock being good or bad. Everybody knows if you wear a leather jacket you are a hood (what ever they are) Ss not sure what that makes me, FYI, Look at the gold stars, Police who died r

[Bob Denman]

Me?
I'm just a "Rider"...

[AY4B]

I found an interesting read

False Flags, Biker Gangs, and the PATCON Legacy

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/false-flags-biker-gangs-and-the-patcon-legacy/

[AY4B]

Waco “Twin Peaks” Shooting Updates: 14 Police Officers Fired “thousands of rounds” on 200 Bikers Killing 9, Wounding 18 – Two Thirds Of Those Arrested Had No Prior Criminal History…

[Bob Denman]

I found an interesting read

False Flags, Biker Gangs, and the PATCON Legacy

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog...patcon-legacy/

He sounds like a blogger with his own agenda... not particularly credible.
"Anti-State Anti-War Pro-Market"