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    Default Reliability

    Hmm one picture is worth a thousand words


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    We need to define some terms here. As in; What does 'Failed' mean?
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    Dave,
    Perhaps it's time for you to dump your RT, and move on to something that you believe in...

    And it pains me to say this to you; I've always considered you as a friend...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BajaRon View Post
    We need to define some terms here. As in; What does 'Failed' mean?
    Dunno I assume it means needs to go to dealer to be fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Dave,
    Perhaps it's time for you to dump your RT, and move on to something that you believe in...



    And take Drewnj with you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Dave,
    Perhaps it's time for you to dump your RT, and move on to something that you believe in...
    Perhaps it is time for you to not offer me advice. Don't shoot the messenger. This was posted on a Can Am Facebook page. Go for a ride and have some ice cream.

    Besides I am waiting for my May fix from BRP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Then why are you ragging on me for posting the picture? I did not read the link you posted; colored posts in different fonts make me read something else. Besides that post did not show the pecentages.

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    Default yah, I've seen that, but there alot missing...

    I've seen this tossed around recently...There is WAY too little info here to make any kind of conclusions from it...
    But if taken at face value: One of the best arguments would be that the Spyder owners are generally persons of a certain maturity and/or who are much more willing to take issues to their dealers/mechanics for work instead of shade tree work. We also purchase warranties that other bike owners may not. Thus they go to the shop more for that work....
    Also, we ryde 'em!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdave View Post
    Perhaps it is time for you to not offer me advice. Don't shoot the messenger. This was posted on a Can Am Facebook page. Go for a ride and have some ice cream.

    Besides I am waiting for my May fix from BRP.
    Negativity buys more negativity.

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    Default Here's the thing..!!

    These are accomodating studies..like who sells more coca cola or pepsi. Depends on the month and whos turn...
    We are the brand with the most never before owned a bike people...
    We are the brand with the most women...getting into ryding
    We are the brand with the highest average age...
    Now with that we know newbies will be in the shop for every little thing as they learn ryding and simple maintenance. Women tend to have all work done at the dealers.(unless hubby does mechanical work or they learn to) Many units go in for computer glitches that simply clear with the key walk. And old folks have no patience (not all, don't get offended I'm one of them).
    So until brp pays for the study we will be low on the totem pole...
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    About to hit 14K miles. My 2011 RTS has been trouble free other than things that have been what I consider normal maintance.

    So I think comparing a Spyder with other bikes is a bunch of pooey... I think expectations like Chupaca pointed out have a lot to do with it along with the fear most people probably have with even pulling the panels off or doing anything themselves.

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    There's an old saying...
    "Figures don't lie, but liars can figure!"
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    Follow the MONEY, who owns the publication? Who benefits from skewed articles? Who did the author play a round of golf with yesterday? You'll never know!

    I've owned two Spyders, 4 years later and (1) one trip to the dealer for (minor) repairs. No complainants, No regrets. Hell, the transmission self disinterested in My TOP RATED Honda Odyssey Van at 40,000 miles, along with other issues.

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    I don't mind the discussion. Certainly the Spyder has had issues, as has every other brand/model out there. But there are so many variables.

    I'm not even saying that the Spyder should not be at the bottom of this list. On the other hand, I don't think there is enough information to verify their numbers either.

    The Spyder is, for all practical purposes, a one of a kind machine. It's very much different from anything else anyone has ridden. And as mentioned, for many the very first 'Motorcycle' they have ever ridden. Just these facts alone are going to generate a lot of 'Can you check this or that', dealer visits alone. How many of these visits actually resulted in a machine deficiency and how many were simply owner ignorance.

    I'd been riding for 25 years when I got my Spyder. Had I been someone else, and had there been a dealer close by I can guarantee you I would have taken it in at least once when there was nothing actually wrong with it.

    I think this is a relatively meaningless concoction of figures which will probably get more traction than it deserves.
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    Default I don't mind the discussion either

    The guy didn't create the chart. Since when do we attempt to censor (limit) what gets posted ?

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    I have a yamaha & a spyder

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    Another point: Most dealers do not work on "trike" configurations due to warranty "issues." At the moment, Triumph is the only other major line that I know of that sells and warranties a trike version. EDIT: Ooops, forgot about HD TriGlides.

    Can-Am is also a dealer serviced "trike."

    Maybe that is the reason for more Can-Am's going to the dealer as opposed to the other brands. As owners, most of us tend to take our 's to the dealer for everything.

    Next week: oil change service and tire replacement on the 2011.
    Next week after that: oil change service and install some farkles on the 2014.

    There are two more trips to the dealer. Usual maintenance and not from problems implied in the chart.
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    Yes my Spyder seems to require lots of maintenance but I have driven lots of miles and it has never broken down. Plus I have had lots of fun, met great people and seen some new places. Ride, be safe and have fun; if the Spyder causes you more worry and than fun sell it and move on.

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    anything you buy can have a reliability problem, i learned that with my ex. so it is a 50- 50 chance of getting a good one or bad one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cruzr Joe View Post
    And take Drewnj with you.


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    Why would you say that? I have no issues with my machine, No complaints at all.
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    Truthfully; I didn't really care for Joe's post either...

    ...But you could have ignored it...

    Nahhh... you couldn't!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post

    Truthfully; I didn't really care for Joe's post either...

    ...But you could have ignored it...

    Nahhh... you couldn't!
    I couldn't! It made me laugh, and I totally felt loved today! [emoji1]
    I actually missed it and was messaged about it.
    Also, Noticed you jumped in here to.... I'm really feeling the love today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewNJ View Post
    I couldn't! It made me laugh, and I totally felt loved today! [emoji1]
    I actually missed it and was messaged about it.
    Also, Noticed you jumped in here to.... I'm really feeling the love today!
    I certainly don't want to see you go.

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