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    This is strange but here it is. Over the past few months I noticed my cruise control (or maybe just the switch itself) was getting finicky. If I tried to step up the speed or drop it down it would usually shut off the cruise. It got a little worse with time. Now I have to ride for about 20 miles before the switch will hold the bike on cruise at all. When I try to turn the cruise on, it will flash the green "on" for a split second, then turn off. Holding it in position for several seconds does not help. However, after about 20 miles of warm up, it works. This makes no sense to me but yet it happens time and time again. I've been testing. Its a 2011 RT-S. I've had it for 4 years and it was fine for the first 3. If anyone has experienced this or has information I would be grateful. Thanks

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    Switch could very well be a problem but check your rpms if not over 3300 it will not engage, if you shift it will kick out as well few lil quirks I've found out on my '13 anyway, G'luck

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    When I first bought my 2014 RT, the cruise would not engage. After about 100 miles, it worked fine. Then, when I took it in for it's 3000 mile service, it stopped working again. After about 100 miles, it worked again. I am not sure if it had something to do with it being put on the computer, and everything having to reset, but I have not had any problems since. Guess I will see what happens when I take it in for it's second service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklightning View Post
    When I first bought my 2014 RT, the cruise would not engage. After about 100 miles, it worked fine. Then, when I took it in for it's 3000 mile service, it stopped working again. After about 100 miles, it worked again. I am not sure if it had something to do with it being put on the computer, and everything having to reset, but I have not had any problems since. Guess I will see what happens when I take it in for it's second service.
    Are you trying to run cruise and Eco Mode at the same time? I don't think they work together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akspyderman View Post
    Are you trying to run cruise and Eco Mode at the same time? I don't think they work together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by granpa in Cincy View Post
    Yes it does!
    What he said. I did use cruise and eco mod in the beginning, but now i never use eco mode. Might use it if I do some interstate riding, but I prefer the 2 lane highways.

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    My switch did the same thing. Bad switch replaced under warranty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklightning View Post
    When I first bought my 2014 RT, the cruise would not engage. After about 100 miles, it worked fine. Then, when I took it in for it's 3000 mile service, it stopped working again. After about 100 miles, it worked again. I am not sure if it had something to do with it being put on the computer, and everything having to reset, but I have not had any problems since. Guess I will see what happens when I take it in for it's second service.
    I bought my(first spyder) 2012RTS-SE5 the cruise control did not work right from the get-go, even the guy at the dealership could not get the cruise control to work. Since then I have traded up to a 2014RTS-SE6. Good luck with the cruise control. Deanna
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    Well, I took the handlebar assembly off and poked around in there as best as I could. I couldn't see anything that looked broken or wrong. I then reassembled and figured I would take it to the dealer. As soon as I started riding it I found that it now works ! I must be a mechanical genius ! Sometimes taking something apart and putting it back together works. It doesn't make sense but I'll take it.

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    There are two springs in the back of the switch. One just holds the switch in the on/off position. You can feel the spring move when you slide the switch from off to on.
    The other spring is actually pushes the "on" switch. If the spring is too weak, the cruise may not stay on.

    This is what the switch looks like. This was my first attempt at making mine work. The spring was not strong enough to hold the "On" part of the switch. I later changed to a stronger spring and a BB. Now my cruise works great.

    Here is the actual electronic portion of the cruise switch. It is the white pad approx 2"x1" above my hand. The larger white dot (left center) is the "on" button. The spring/BB simply pushes the button. When the cruise is set to "on" the BB pokes through the hole in the black piece in my hand. When you rock the switch up or down, the BB moves a little. If the spring is not strong enough it won't push the contact that is inside the white panel and the cruise turns off. It must have pressure all the time the cruise is on.
    The two smaller dots to the right side are the speed up and down buttons. In the first picture you can see two little ears on the right side of the black plastic piece. When the switch rocks, it presses one of the buttons. These only require momentary contact.

    So, your spring is too weak or the black rocker assembly is not screwed in the whole way. It will not get better.

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    Default My Experience 2012 RTS M5 Cruise Control

    Just before the end of my factory warranty, I noticed my kill switch, which had always been slow to engage failed to kill the engine. I had questioned a delay in this switch since I owned it, and the dealer, of course, said this was normal. BS. I had the entire right switch assembly replaced under warranty, and riding home from the dealer, the cruise would switch to off, and not engage. The day this happened the weather was cold and wet, and so was I. I turned around to go back to dealer, and mysteriously, the cruise started working, so I went home to dry out and warm up, thinking this might have been just some packing material or the like in the new control module. Two weeks later, after a couple of short rides, the cruise would not stay on, just a brief flash of the on light. The dealer checked it out, and found the cruise switch was bad, and contacted Can Am, who refused to replace the new switch, since the spyder was now 24 months and two weeks old. Finally, after me personally sending emails, and making calls to Can Am, the situation was elevated to a level 2 tech, and it was replaced as a "good will" matter.
    Short story is, the cruise switch is weak on spyders. I like the post where the guts of the switch were taken out and user repaired. Yours may be repairable in this manner. Some owners never seem to have problem, and I think these controls are just a bit under engineered.
    Wish I had the technical expertise to fix this, and other problems I have had with mine, but, I am a bit leery of doing my own thing on this machine due to the complexity of it.

    Wish Can Am would step up and provide more quality in the manufacture of these, as they are not inexpensive toys, and, in my estimation, should be more dependable for the dollars they cost.

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    Thank You Crainiac and Spyder2012. Those are both great pieces of information, and seem to be the exact problem I'm facing. I'm sure my temporary "fix" will be short lived and I will have to switch the switch.

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    I never turn my cruise control off. It does no harm in leaving it on and I've never had a problem in over 100,00 Spyder miles. A quick tap of the brake will take it off SET and back to ON.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    I never turn my cruise control off. It does no harm in leaving it on and I've never had a problem in over 100,00 Spyder miles. A quick tap of the brake will take it off SET and back to ON.
    Same here. It's never off.

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    Same here, I always leave mine on.

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    Same here. It's never off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craniac View Post
    There are two springs in the back of the switch. One just holds the switch in the on/off position. You can feel the spring move when you slide the switch from off to on.
    The other spring is actually pushes the "on" switch. If the spring is too weak, the cruise may not stay on.

    This is what the switch looks like. This was my first attempt at making mine work. The spring was not strong enough to hold the "On" part of the switch. I later changed to a stronger spring and a BB. Now my cruise works great.

    Here is the actual electronic portion of the cruise switch. It is the white pad approx 2"x1" above my hand. The larger white dot (left center) is the "on" button. The spring/BB simply pushes the button. When the cruise is set to "on" the BB pokes through the hole in the black piece in my hand. When you rock the switch up or down, the BB moves a little. If the spring is not strong enough it won't push the contact that is inside the white panel and the cruise turns off. It must have pressure all the time the cruise is on.
    The two smaller dots to the right side are the speed up and down buttons. In the first picture you can see two little ears on the right side of the black plastic piece. When the switch rocks, it presses one of the buttons. These only require momentary contact.

    So, your spring is too weak or the black rocker assembly is not screwed in the whole way. It will not get better.
    My question is if these springs can be changed and/or upgraded. This is great information, and I had forgotten about this until the most recent issue with my speed control began, and it is getting worse. Interesting that the speed will set when holding the resume/accel position for a few seconds. However the set/decel kills the control and it shows OFF on the lower left of the display panel on the dash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARtraveler View Post
    Are you trying to run cruise and Eco Mode at the same time? I don't think they work together.
    IT works fine with ECO mode.
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