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    I went to hook up my GPS and I used the aux power provide by BRP but when I turned the key on I had no power. I checked the other power connection and there was no power there either. I then check the F6 fuse and it was good but still no power. Turns out the bike has to be running for the power to work.


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    That is one bad looking ride Lamont
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    Default Great..!!

    so now we have constant power, switched power and engine power.. thanks for the tip this could drive the odd diy guys to drinking.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chupaca View Post
    so now we have constant power, switched power and engine power.. thanks for the tip this could drive the odd diy guys to drinking.....
    I've never seen one wired like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamonster View Post
    I've never seen one wired like that.
    looking at the wiring diagram and the fuse box it doesn't appear we have the option to move a fuse either like in the RT.

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    Default Me too . . . .

    . . . . . I noticed that when I hooked up my heated vest to the Aux wiring under the seat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamonster View Post
    I've never seen one wired like that.
    Have not seen the wiring diagram but they could be running it off the alternator. Must have been fun figuring that one out..
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    They may be thinking of preventing accidental Battery drainage.........????.....Mike

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    This would only be a guess on my part but some folks are putting on a lot of electrical accessories. BRP may have thought in some cases it could cause low voltage issues during engine crank. The simple solution is to move the switched accessories control to the load shedding relay from one of the mains like in the past. So the accessories socket will switch on and off with the headlights.

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    Default I have not checked . . . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by billybovine View Post
    This would only be a guess on my part but some folks are putting on a lot of electrical accessories. BRP may have thought in some cases it could cause low voltage issues during engine crank. The simple solution is to move the switched accessories control to the load shedding relay from one of the mains like in the past. So the accessories socket will switch on and off with the headlights.
    . . . but they may have changed some of the parts ( starter, pumps, etcetera) and they might require more initial battery draw at key-in/on and didn't want them over taxing or competing with optional accessories.

    I am just guessing, too. The 'new' way works fine for all my needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom in NM View Post
    . . . . . I noticed that when I hooked up my heated vest to the Aux wiring under the seat.

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    Saw the same thing. When I first hooked the heated gear to the leads under the seat, I thought they didn't work - until I turned the Spyder on...


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    I noticed that when I installed back power ports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamonster View Post
    I went to hook up my GPS and I used the aux power provide by BRP but when I turned the key on I had no power. I checked the other power connection and there was no power there either. I then check the F6 fuse and it was good but still no power. Turns out the bike has to be running for the power to work.

    Lamont, did you use the accessories cable that is under the console like in the picture? I've had a hard time finding it and getting to work.
    Instead I used the harness that is used to power the BRP handlebar GPS holder (for the New Garmin GPS). That plug is located on the right side under the rider's seat, on top of the small body panel that has the Spyder decal. I think it does power up without turning the engine over.
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    Lamont
    It looks like you have one of your highway pegs in the #1 UFit position on the Triple Threat. Is that correct?
    I had planned to put the OEM peg there when I replace it with the driver's floorboards. Do you see any reason that wouldn't work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullant12 View Post
    Lamont, did you use the accessories cable that is under the console like in the picture? I've had a hard time finding it and getting to work.
    Instead I used the harness that is used to power the BRP handlebar GPS holder (for the New Garmin GPS). That plug is located on the right side under the rider's seat, on top of the small body panel that has the Spyder decal. I think it does power up without turning the engine over.
    I did not use that, wasn't sure where it was till Harvey told me. He didn't get power when he keyed on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slagiatt View Post
    Lamont
    It looks like you have one of your highway pegs in the #1 UFit position on the Triple Threat. Is that correct?
    I had planned to put the OEM peg there when I replace it with the driver's floorboards. Do you see any reason that wouldn't work?
    Thanks!
    I'm not sure you how you would make that work. Mine is a splined peg mount that is right where it needs to be to get on the Spyder without kicking the grabrails.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bullant12 View Post
    Lamont, did you use the accessories cable that is under the console like in the picture? I've had a hard time finding it and getting to work.
    Instead I used the harness that is used to power the BRP handlebar GPS holder (for the New Garmin GPS). That plug is located on the right side under the rider's seat, on top of the small body panel that has the Spyder decal. I think it does power up without turning the engine over.
    All three of the "customer accessory circuits" have labels attached. The one under the console you just have to find by feel. It is a short cable with no connector. All three run to the same circuit so none will be powered without the engine running. After a quick glance at the wiring diagram I don't think the gps circuit is hot with just the switch on either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamonster View Post
    I did not use that, wasn't sure where it was till Harvey told me. He didn't get power when he keyed on.
    Quote Originally Posted by zuni View Post
    All three of the "customer accessory circuits" have labels attached. The one under the console you just have to find by feel. It is a short cable with no connector. All three run to the same circuit so none will be powered without the engine running. After a quick glance at the wiring diagram I don't think the gps circuit is hot with just the switch on either.
    I tested the GPS plug last night after I spoke to Harvey about it on Sunday. It goes hot on the key.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullant12 View Post
    I tested the GPS plug last night after I spoke to Harvey about it on Sunday. It goes hot on the key.
    Awesome! Hadn't gotten a chance to put a meter on it. Needed a switched line for another project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuni View Post
    All three of the "customer accessory circuits" have labels attached. The one under the console you just have to find by feel. It is a short cable with no connector. All three run to the same circuit so none will be powered without the engine running. After a quick glance at the wiring diagram I don't think the gps circuit is hot with just the switch on either.
    Do the labels just have random information like BRP AG and a bunch of numbers ?

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    I used the mid point power wire provide by BRP to power my GPS. Have power with key in on position, engine does have to be running.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullant12 View Post
    Lamont, did you use the accessories cable that is under the console like in the picture? I've had a hard time finding it and getting to work.
    Instead I used the harness that is used to power the BRP handlebar GPS holder (for the New Garmin GPS). That plug is located on the right side under the rider's seat, on top of the small body panel that has the Spyder decal. I think it does power up without turning the engine over.
    The wire under the right side is wire tied to another wire harness. It is wrapped with black tape. Get a light and you should see it. It is long enough to pull outside when you cut the wire tie.

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    So I'm confused. To power the GPS it needs to be connected under the seat? Or does the "wire" continue up to the capped opening to the right of the key switch?Thanks, Riiiiiiiiiick

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    All of the factory auxiliary power leads are on the same circuit which runs through the relay and I believe a 10 amp fuse. The engine must be running for power in the circuit. PITA if you want to keep the GPS on so it doesn't have to go through its long start up cycle: I have a 64GB card in my 660 which takes a long time to scan.

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    What about wiring straight to the battery? The Garmin supplied wiring harness contains an inline fuse.

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