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    Howdy gang,

    Why have a touring model with a POS for a GPS???

    I have a 2014 RT LTD that came with a Garmin Zumo 660. I like the ease of being able to take the gps off of the bike but I really hate the fact that you can't see anything on the screen in sunlight. I tried adding a Glare Stomper but that was a waste of money. I would like to get a replacement for the 660 that you can actually read in sunlight and would probably opt for a bigger screen. It looks like the mount that is on my RT is wired in so something that would fit that mount would be nice too. If the thing was not waterproof, no biggie. I will pull over and stick it in the trunk at the same time that I put my wallet in there when caught in the rain.

    Anybody got suggestions?

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    There are a couple of aftermarket "screen protectors" that provide decent solutions for that problem - there are also sun shields, that fit around the outside of the GPS.

    Some folks rely on the audio directions from the 660 - running through the stereo..
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    have you tried to adjust the angle ? I found it helps..

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    Default New Garmin Zumo 590LM

    Quote Originally Posted by peterparker View Post
    Howdy gang,

    Why have a touring model with a POS for a GPS???

    I have a 2014 RT LTD that came with a Garmin Zumo 660. I like the ease of being able to take the gps off of the bike but I really hate the fact that you can't see anything on the screen in sunlight. I tried adding a Glare Stomper but that was a waste of money. I would like to get a replacement for the 660 that you can actually read in sunlight and would probably opt for a bigger screen. It looks like the mount that is on my RT is wired in so something that would fit that mount would be nice too. If the thing was not waterproof, no biggie. I will pull over and stick it in the trunk at the same time that I put my wallet in there when caught in the rain.

    Anybody got suggestions?

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    Bill, the new 2015 RTL come with Garmin bigger better GPS. I was looking at 2015 but got a sale deal on 2014 so got the 660 also.
    look at the 590LM specs. Pretty sure same mounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonrider View Post
    There are a couple of aftermarket "screen protectors" that provide decent solutions for that problem - there are also sun shields, that fit around the outside of the GPS.

    Some folks rely on the audio directions from the 660 - running through the stereo..
    How do you do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor View Post
    How do you do that?
    if you turn off any Bluetooth connectivity on the Garmin, it sends voice navigation to the audio system. That's how I have mine set up.

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    I have the 660 and gps Bluetooth to my Sena headset in my helmet. I also have my phone, music and intercom to my Sena. Hands free operation.
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    Your GPS is fine...
    If you put a 25" screen down in the middle of the handlebars; you'd STILL have sunlight and glare keep you from being able to read it.
    Get one of JT's mounting brackets, and just place it up on top of the dash...
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    Probably the real question is, regardless of brand or model, what GPS will work well in direct sunlight?

    I have several Garmins, two for hiking, two car Nuvis and the 660. None are great in direct sunlight and all require me to angle the screen.

    Since the Garmin came with you machine, did it include the entire accessory kit items as if bought separately?

    We got the BRP Garmin kit, and while it provides the same setup as yours, it also included RAM mounts and the adapter to fit the RAM mount to the oem BRP Garmin mount.

    If the BRP wire harness were longer, you could easily move the Garmin to be placed on top of the glareshield with one of the currently sold flat brackets that uses the two existing screws.

    This is one example, there may be others.

    http://gnipsel.com/spyderstore/index...&product_id=50

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    Wanted to add, having thought about this a moment, adding in extensions to each harness would be pretty simple and done right simple plug and play.

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    On a previous bike I had a Garmin Zumo 550 (I think), and I've used a TomTom Rider model. It seems all LCD screens have the bright sunlight issue. I liked the way I could create my own color scheme on the TomTom because I was able to create one with with higher contrast, but it was still not very usable in direct bright sunlight. Just the nature of the beast.

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    Pretty sure all GPS' have an issue with direct sunlight.

    I mounted mine under the dash fairing and this solved it for most the time.
    Only time there is a problem is when the sun is at my back and able to get between me and the GPS.
    I am very happy with this placement.
    In my opinion it's also easier to see while riding as you don't have to look down at your handlebars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    Your GPS is fine...
    If you put a 25" screen down in the middle of the handlebars; you'd STILL have sunlight and glare keep you from being able to read it.
    Get one of JT's mounting brackets, and just place it up on top of the dash...


    With the device mounted on the handlebar, tilting it down would make it hard to see while trying to watch the road. With the device mounted above the dash, instead of on the handlebar, it's closer to eye-level, it's easier to see every time and tilting it down in sunny conditions won't keep you from seeing the screen.

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    I'm a fan of the top of dash location for the gps. On my '13 RT Ltd I rerouted the cable, disassembled the dash and mounted my gps as in post #13. The cable runs along the right side of the spyder and the connections are at the right rear corner of the fuel tank. I believe the '14 RT is routed the same way. I have a '14 RT now and intend to mount my zumo 660 using JT's dash mount and a 6 inch ram arm to bring the gps out to the edge of the dash. I'll also add a hood to reduce the glare. Link below for the hood and JT's mount. Btw, the mount for the 660 and the new 590LM are not the same per the Garmin website.

    http://www.priushood.com/gazu660665su.html

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    Something I have noticed is when I am riding "into the sun", if the GPS angle is not right, I get tremendous refection of my high vis jacket! I have to admit a black jacket would be a pretty good fix, in that situation!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrairieSpyder View Post
    [I almost "disliked" your post, Bob!]
    I've also been having trouble with this adjustment...
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    I'm NOT a fan of putting anything in my line of sight (dash top), but that's just me. I've had a Garmin 500, & 550 on various bikes, with the 550 on my 2010 RT - and found the bar mount to be satisfactory 95% of the time. On my 2014, I have a Montana, which is FAR better in bright sun, but not perfect.
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    After reading several complaints about sun glare on GPS Screens, i tried something and while it is not perfect, it helps quite a bit.

    Get a small sheet of dark window tint and apply it to your GPS Screen, and turn the GPS brightness all the way up.

    It is not perfect but it works. (as far as i can tell)


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterP View Post
    if you turn off any Bluetooth connectivity on the Garmin, it sends voice navigation to the audio system. That's how I have mine set up.
    I never turned any Bluetooth on, but maybe it's on by default. I'll check it out. Thanks!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonrider View Post
    I'm NOT a fan of putting anything in my line of sight (dash top), but that's just me. I've had a Garmin 500, & 550 on various bikes, with the 550 on my 2010 RT - and found the bar mount to be satisfactory 95% of the time. On my 2014, I have a Montana, which is FAR better in bright sun, but not perfect.
    I am with you there as far as on top of the dash... This is why I found a happy compromise and that is just "under" the dash to the side!
    Benefit is you get a "sun shield" most the time except when the sun is behind you and to your left.

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    OK peterparker you started this thread and there have been 20 responses, many with questions and/or suggestions and it has been over 24 hours without a response from you. I was about to offer my suggestions then got to wondering if you were just trolling?

    If you have been too busy and/or away from a computer or smartphone then fine but you start a "worthless" thread early in the evening and folks start responding within 12 minutes and you are nowhere to be found?

    Your thread is worthless if you don't participate!

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    I have lots of frustrations with my Zumo and moved to this GPS

    http://www.zoozmc.com/#!product/prd1...s-5%22-zg-5050

    Sunshade will not help much since the Zumo screen is not bright enough and doesn't have enough backlight.

    You can also get some more information regarding the advanced modern software at:
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    At the risk of asking the obvious - do you have the brightness on your GPS turned to 100%? Mine sometimes resets itself to 20% (I have no idea why).

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    Quote Originally Posted by WA5VHU View Post
    OK peterparker you started this thread and there have been 20 responses, many with questions and/or suggestions and it has been over 24 hours without a response from you. I was about to offer my suggestions then got to wondering if you were just trolling?

    If you have been too busy and/or away from a computer or smartphone then fine but you start a "worthless" thread early in the evening and folks start responding within 12 minutes and you are nowhere to be found?

    Your thread is worthless if you don't participate!

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    Sorry Charles. I should really be more on top of complying to your demands. Regardless of the reason that I am just now getting to read all of these posts, I don't think it is any of your damned business how long it has taken. Who the hell are you, the response police???

    To everyone else, thanks for all of the suggestions. I appreciate them and will explore the options that you all have given me.

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