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    Question Lateral Force on the Passenger

    I have a new 2014 RTL and am just starting to feel a little more comfortable with being pushed sideways in the corners. I have not given my wife a ride yet and am wondering how it feels back there. She is quite relaxed on two-wheelers, but I can't ride one anymore due to a neurological condition. I'm a little concerned that it will feel unsafe for her or that she will have to be constantly holding on as if it was a carnival ride. Anyone ever hear of a Spyder passenger falling off? I will appreciate any thoughts and tips. Thanks!

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    My wife had no riding experience before the Fat White Chick, but says the passenger area with the rear speakers cradles here nicely, and she has had no problems with lateral forces. She watches the road signs and keeps a light grip on the handles as needed, but says she doesn't feel any tendency to be pulled off the seat.

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    My wife had no riding experience before the Spyder but was so comfortable on the back that she went on to get her endorsement. We have friends who have slept for over a hour at a time in the rear seat, with no problems. Leaning into and accelerating through the curves will make you feel more "one with the Spyder" and less a victim of lateral force..
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    Thanks!! That helps a lot.

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    While I'm at it, are armrests helpful? In the way? Best brand? I've ordered some from the dealer, then got to thinking that after-market might be better or maybe not needed at all.

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    I have the corbin arm rest on my '14. My signature pic was taken before I installed the corbins. We had these on my 2010 RTS and when I traded up to the '14 I kept them. My wife wouldn't ride without them. She gets a real since of security with them. I assume this would hold true for any brand of armrest. I will try and get an updated picture soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor View Post
    I have a new 2014 RTL and am just starting to feel a little more comfortable with being pushed sideways in the corners. I have not given my wife a ride yet and am wondering how it feels back there. She is quite relaxed on two-wheelers, but I can't ride one anymore due to a neurological condition. I'm a little concerned that it will feel unsafe for her or that she will have to be constantly holding on as if it was a carnival ride. Anyone ever hear of a Spyder passenger falling off? I will appreciate any thoughts and tips. Thanks!
    Start out with low and slow until she becomes accustomed to the "g" forces you will encounter on the .

    Even though the is not a leaner like on two wheels, you will find that leaning the body slightly into the turns will result in reduced g forces. The passenger should follow the lead of the driver--just like on two wheels.

    I always enter curves and twisties from the outside of the turn and plot a straight course to the inside of the turn. Foot planted on the "outside" floorboard, and knees against the gas tank. A push/pull grip on the handle bars, using as little input as possible. This all becomes natural after a few miles, and you will not have that feeling of the not being in control. I can take twisties at 20+ posted if I want to.

    If you have to brake as you enter a curve, you are going a bit to fast for starters. You should be able to accelerate as you take the curve.

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    passengers get used to it very quickly. Start out slow and they will adjust..
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    Thanks everyone. You have been most helpful.

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    Default PASSENGER FEELING SECURE

    I have not ridden extensively as a passenger, however IMHO I think the position ( level ) of the FOOTBOARDS is the key for the passenger to feel secure. If they can easily apply pressure to counteract the G- forces when you turn ( you might have to tell them about doing this ) I am sure they will feel much better about riding ..........A lot of people might set the Passenger footboard HEIGHT to accommodate ease in getting on and off ( for shorter riders ). But you only do this infrequently compared to how long they use the footboards for riding support........................Next time try raising the Boards a little and see if that makes a difference .......it won't hurt to try !!!!!....Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    I have not ridden extensively as a passenger, however IMHO I think the position ( level ) of the FOOTBOARDS is the key for the passenger to feel secure. If they can easily apply pressure to counteract the G- forces when you turn ( you might have to tell them about doing this ) I am sure they will feel much better about riding ..........A lot of people might set the Passenger footboard HEIGHT to accommodate ease in getting on and off ( for shorter riders ). But you only do this infrequently compared to how long they use the footboards for riding support........................Next time try raising the Boards a little and see if that makes a difference .......it won't hurt to try !!!!!....Mike
    Thanks!! My wife is vertically challenged so setting her footboards at the highest setting will probably be best for her. Thanks for a great tip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor View Post
    Thanks!! My wife is vertically challenged so setting her footboards at the highest setting will probably be best for her. Thanks for a great tip!
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    Default Good Scoop All Around

    My wife at 73 had probably only two motorcycle rides in her life more than four decades ago. She took to the Spyder like a duck to water. She follows my lead and leans perfectly into the turns.
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    My wife adapted quite easily after several years on the back of a Goldwing. She and I just lean to the inside like we always did and that cancels some of the centrifugal force. Holding on to the passenger grips takes care of the rest. I do have one concern that i would appreciate opinions on. I plan to install armrests and of course that is where she will want to keep her arms most of the time instead of hanging on to the hand grips. There will be some force applied to the armrest wile negotiating tight turns. Is that a problem?

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    My Wife says the Corbin arm rest totally changed her comfort level (for the best)
    Cant use grab handles now (just one at time )
    But does not care to
    Fell asleep twice now wi the Corbins
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    Cool topic...

    My son-in-law told me about a co worker of his, bought a Spyder and as the rider, not passenger got ejected in a corner, so I suppose anything is possible.

    Yes the rear floorboard height not only helped with cornering control but also made the comfort much improved for my wife. The bike was delivered in the full low setting. We spent maybe 15 minutes trying different settings until she found what she preferred. Ironic this was not part of a dealer setup.

    Now, she is very comfy, does fall asleep on open roads. In town or when dealing with corners, some I don't worry about, others I may tap her leg to indicate hold tight.

    The oem speaker boxes / armrests offer side support, also, with the Corbin backrest, she has a front handle if ever needed.

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