You are correct; the chip in the 2014 keys has MUCH stronger Kung-Fu...
You have to track down a suitable key blank and chip (TP-12; I think!), get the key cut for the ignition switch, and TEHN take your new key, ALL of your old keys, and your bike to the dealer...
You are confusing getting an OEM key programmed and a cloned key. OEM keys must be taken to the dealer (or someone with a way to access the programming sequence) in order to add keys.
Cloned keys, on the other hand, do not have to be added to the system. When you clone a key it takes on the attributes on the key it was cloned from. So if I take my original key #1 and get it cloned, whenever I insert the cloned key into the ignition the security system sees key #1.
Clifford Fargason
2013 Spyder RTL
2007 Royal Star Venture
You are confusing getting an OEM key programmed and a cloned key. OEM keys must be taken to the dealer (or someone with a way to access the programming sequence) in order to add keys.
Cloned keys, on the other hand, do not have to be added to the system. When you clone a key it takes on the attributes on the key it was cloned from. So if I take my original key #1 and get it cloned, whenever I insert the cloned key into the ignition the security system sees key #1.
Bob's not confused. The process he describes is for making a homemade version of the OE key. The TP12 transponder is the one used by BRP for 2014 and is not rewritable. If you want to make a clone of a TP12 you need to use a TPX3/4 transponder.
Normally; I AM confused...
The differences with the security of the 2014 (and later) keys, requires and entirely different approach...
2008 to 2013; you can clone them...
Normally; I AM confused...
The differences with the security of the 2014 (and later) keys, requires and entirely different approach...
2008 to 2013; you can clone them...
My bad then. Since we were talking about cloning keys, I assumed that you were talking about cloning a 2014 key. Since then I read a thread that you talked about using a non-OEM TP12 key. Did you ever get it to work with your bike?
Clifford Fargason
2013 Spyder RTL
2007 Royal Star Venture
No; I could NOT get my assembly of parts to work...
BUDS could not read the new key, so I've got to assume that either I didn't have the correct chip, or the chip that I had wasn't any good...
I'm still working on this project!
No; I could NOT get my assembly of parts to work...
BUDS could not read the new key, so I've got to assume that either I didn't have the correct chip, or the chip that I had wasn't any good...
I'm still working on this project!
Confusing ain't it. When I looked out of curiosity, I was surprised that one vendor had 6 different TP12's with different part numbers for different applications. So which one.
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Currently; I'd have to say "yes".
Pick one up at the dealer.
BUT...
In order to program it; take ALL of your keys, AND your bike along...
It'll require a hook-up to BUDS.
Has anyone drilled a hole in the top of the key itself? Then you could put it on a key chain. Logic tells you that the chip inside the thing, should not eat up all of the plastic.
One of the hardest decisions you'll ever face in life is choosing whether to walk away or try harder.
I don't have a picture of it...
But you go to the "top of the Key", and make your hole right at the point where the black and gray outer coverings meet.
(Take a pin, and probe that area; you'll hit that spot where it'll go right on through... )
Thanks Bob, I did as you suggested and it worked, the key still works. The previous owner had lost one or both of his keys, because the "ring" was on the wrong part. This makes much more sense.
One of the hardest decisions you'll ever face in life is choosing whether to walk away or try harder.
FYI for those looking for a non-chip key as a backup, I got one today and the locksmith immediately said, "oh, that is a Triumph key blank. It has number X270 on it, the brand is ILCO. Opens frunck and seat, doesn't start bike.
One of the hardest decisions you'll ever face in life is choosing whether to walk away or try harder.
Jerry,
Are the leading edges on it beveled?
Make sure that it'll push down into the ignition switch without interference...
A 10" Flat Bastard file did the trick for me... 10 minutes of handwork, and it fit perfectly!
Re: So for about 3 1/2 bucks I have a backup that will open the frunk& allow me to lift the seat.
and: Are the leading edges on it beveled?
If you and I were to pass each other on the sidewalk, we would walk right past each other without notice. In other words, you don't know me & I don't know you.
I have spent a fair amount of time on some other forums and have watched people get into the craziest of 'urinating' contests over nothing.
That is why I try my best to parse my words before I post; and I always proof-read my posts before launching them.
Now, given that; yup, I made sure it would open the frunk & release the seat before I posted what I did.
Now, how about them apples?
Jerry Baumchen
PS) Just so no one misunderstands: I may complain about something regarding my Spyder or BRP but this is the most fun motorcycle I have ever owned. I just think it is a d*** shame that I live in a Winter state and she has to sit until Spring.
PPS) I also make sure I never use any profanity on a forum; I use plenty of that in person.
'I'll never forget what's her name.'
'Things are more like they are now than they ever have been before.' Dwight Eisenhower
It's never a bad idea; to keep an un-chipped dummy key in a handy place...
For that ONE time, that you decide to throw your jacket in the Frunk; after absent-mindedly stuffing your ignition key in a pocket!
Agree & keep one in my wallet fyi.
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If you and I were to pass each other on the sidewalk, we would walk right past each other without notice. In other words, you don't know me & I don't know you.
Now, given that; yup, I made sure it would open the frunk & release the seat before I posted what I did.
Now, how about them apples?
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Just checking, Bro!
The first thing that I did; was see if it would turn in the ignition switch... I found out about the beveling of those edges at a later date...
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